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Post by malteser68 on Dec 29, 2019 17:05:17 GMT
And so we end this decade with a loss. We went out with very little fight which makes it more disappointing. Looking back it has been a very good decade in the history of stoke city fc. We spent most of it in the Premier League, reached the cup final, a good campaign in the Europa league and were on the verge of reaching that famous 'other level' before it all went tits up. And to think that not so long ago we beat the current world and European champions 6-1 ....
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 29, 2019 18:17:44 GMT
Hope our vision is better in 2020.
I'll get me coat.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 29, 2019 20:05:58 GMT
We will piss this tin pot league next year , be promoted ,win the prem league and champions league by 2030
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Dec 29, 2019 20:29:38 GMT
We will piss this tin pot league next year , be promoted ,win the prem league and champions league by 2030 Finishing up that last bit of egg nog and rum, eh? |
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 29, 2019 20:54:03 GMT
We will piss this tin pot league next year , be promoted ,win the prem league and champions league by 2030 Finishing up that last bit of egg nog and rum, eh? Jack Daniels il have you know 😎 |
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Post by Davef on Dec 29, 2019 21:08:34 GMT
I thought there was plenty of fight in the Stoke team today. We just weren't good enough to get a result.
A miles better effort than Middlesbrough.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 29, 2019 21:13:29 GMT
I thought there was plenty of fight in the Stoke team today. We just weren't good enough to get a result. A miles better effort than Middlesbrough. Agreed Dave. I think, slowly, this ship is changing course. There is a bit of fire in the belly back. It’s not all roses yet, but I’ve sensed something in the past couple of games I’ve not sensed with the team this season. And that is the absolute desire to get back in the game after going behind. |
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Post by Gods on Dec 29, 2019 21:19:17 GMT
3 consecutive top half, top flight finishes came in the decade under the great Mark Hughes, only occasion we have done that in the history of the football club?
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Post by westgatelakes on Dec 30, 2019 13:16:00 GMT
3 consecutive top half, top flight finishes came in the decade under the great Mark Hughes, only occasion we have done that in the history of the football club? and in today`s daily mail, 9th overall in the Premier League Decade (2010 - 2019)League table with our Ryan in 10th place with 272 appearances in the prem. |
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Post by anchorman on Dec 30, 2019 15:37:32 GMT
3 consecutive top half, top flight finishes came in the decade under the great Mark Hughes, only occasion we have done that in the history of the football club? Correct- on the back of a decade of Aaaarrrdddd work, strong foundations, good characters & a real togetherness. Well done Mark....... |
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 30, 2019 17:17:57 GMT
3 consecutive top half, top flight finishes came in the decade under the great Mark Hughes, only occasion we have done that in the history of the football club? Many will mock your comment, and it is true that Hughes was allowed to destroy the squad, but it is also a fact that Stoke City have never bettered 3 top ten consecutive finishes it it's history and that period will in due time be heralded as a great period in the club's history as were the Waddington years and the post WWII season. The link above has a post that credit's Tony Pulis and it is true he got us into the Prem and took us to our only FACup final and back into Europe, but as the rest of his career has demonstrated TP can only create teams difficult to beat, not winning teams. That has its place of course and had TP not managed Middlesbrough last season they might well have been relegated to Div.! |
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Post by Gods on Dec 30, 2019 17:32:07 GMT
3 consecutive top half, top flight finishes came in the decade under the great Mark Hughes, only occasion we have done that in the history of the football club? Many will mock your comment, and it is true that Hughes was allowed to destroy the squad, but it is also a fact that Stoke City have never bettered 3 top ten consecutive finishes it it's history and that period will in due time be heralded as a great period in the club's history as were the Waddington years and the post WWII season. The link above has a post that credit's Tony Pulis and it is true he got us into the Prem and took us to our only FACup final and back into Europe, but as the rest of his career has demonstrated TP can only create teams difficult to beat, not winning teams. That has its place of course and had TP not managed Middlesbrough last season they might well have been relegated to Div.! Yes indeed, the Pulis/Hughes succession was for 2.5 years the perfect transition. He set Pulis 'job in hand' side free to express themselves and added a sprinkling of magic dust of his own and for nearly 3 seasons we were really cooking! Does the fact that it all went wrong change that fact? I don't think so, for 3 seasons we were seriously good on world club football's biggest stage and nothing will ever change that. |
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Post by barky1 on Dec 30, 2019 20:53:51 GMT
Our football club above all is a business and as such must manage itself wisely. Cut its cloth accordingly. Something we have been sadly lacking with
If we were efficient then those at the helm would be made accountable. Until this happens or our new manager is strong enough to trim the over loaded wage list and is allowed to make rational buy desissions then there will be no progress
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 22:00:21 GMT
A new decade, and renewed hopes and dreams.
Michael ticks quite a few of the boxes for me (to be sure). He has been accused of some very odd team selections, but wrongly (not rightly) I feel that some were imposed on himself (to be sure). Etebo did actually put a "like" on a "MON out, Etobo in" tweet. Well when Wilson spilt the beans over Hughes and defensive training, he was whisked out of the door in days (if not hours). Maybe that explains that little matter. Badou was for sale. Yes I agree that withdrawing a player from a team with hopes of a sale are wrong - but I think that is what happened. (to be sure, to be sure).
Just gut feelings here but he seems to know what he is doing (laughable I do realise - but we now do have to fish in a very different pond to the seas that we could trawl a few years ago). Body language? Smallish sort of guy but I reckon his tongue could lash a team at half time. I honestly think that he can install faith and belief in the players themselves (to be sure).
I have some faith in him and believe that he will sort us out.
We just have to wait and see I suppose - well there isn't any other option really is there?
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 31, 2019 9:57:44 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-premier-league-decade-table-3690648Many will mock your comment, and it is true that Hughes was allowed to destroy the squad, but it is also a fact that Stoke City have never bettered 3 top ten consecutive finishes it it's history and that period will in due time be heralded as a great period in the club's history as were the Waddington years and the post WWII season. The link above has a post that credit's Tony Pulis and it is true he got us into the Prem and took us to our only FACup final and back into Europe, but as the rest of his career has demonstrated TP can only create teams difficult to beat, not winning teams. That has its place of course and had TP not managed Middlesbrough last season they might well have been relegated to Div.! Yes indeed, the Pulis/Hughes succession was for 2.5 years the perfect transition. He set Pulis 'job in hand' side free to express themselves and added a sprinkling of magic dust of his own and for nearly 3 seasons we were really cooking! Does the fact that it all went wrong change that fact? I don't think so, for 3 seasons we were seriously good on world club football's biggest stage and nothing will ever change that. I fully agree in fact I would go further and give more credit to Hughes. People claim that Hughes success was built on the back of a good Pulis squad. It was but he did more than just add attacking flare. As you correctly state, he released Whelan and N'Zonzi to play a more adventurous game, whereas Pulis constricted their play. But Hughes went further; one of Pulis' major squad deficiencies was the lack of true FB talent. This MB was constantly criticizing the use of Wilson at FB for example and the need for a decent LB. Hughes corrected that and actually improved the quality of the defence whilst being less defensive; a hard act to accomplish. People have short memories. The football during Pulis' last 6 months was absolutely dire. Hughes was guilty of neglecting/failing to replace the aging players Pulis had left and the aging FBs he brought in, although ironically 2 of them still appear in the Prem. As for the forward and MF signings he made, it's all been said. |
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Post by Gods on Dec 31, 2019 10:11:55 GMT
Yes indeed, the Pulis/Hughes succession was for 2.5 years the perfect transition. He set Pulis 'job in hand' side free to express themselves and added a sprinkling of magic dust of his own and for nearly 3 seasons we were really cooking! Does the fact that it all went wrong change that fact? I don't think so, for 3 seasons we were seriously good on world club football's biggest stage and nothing will ever change that. I fully agree in fact I would go further and give more credit to Hughes. People claim that Hughes success was built on the back of a good Pulis squad. It was but he did more than just add attacking flare. As you correctly state, he released Whelan and N'Zonzi to play a more adventurous game, whereas Pulis constricted their play. But Hughes went further; one of Pulis' major squad deficiencies was the lack of true FB talent. This MB was constantly criticizing the use of Wilson at FB for example and the need for a decent LB. Hughes corrected that and actually improved the quality of the defence whilst being less defensive; a hard act to accomplish. People have short memories. The football during Pulis' last 6 months was absolutely dire. Hughes was guilty of neglecting/failing to replace the aging players Pulis had left and the aging FBs he brought in, although ironically 2 of them still appear in the Prem. As for the forward and MF signings he made, it's all been said. Yes all true. I also noted Hughes whenever given the chance was at pains to praise the legacy of 'players who knew how to win Premier League games' he inherited from Pulis and contrast that with the ridiculous fancy-dans he found at QPR. It's safe to assume he had players like Ryan, Walters, Whelan and so on in mind. |
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