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Post by felonious on Dec 28, 2019 15:19:00 GMT
Getting ready for a battle or so it seems. I heard Lady Hale getting her opinions in first on the radio a couple of days back. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50933535The last thing we need is politicians appointing judges.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 28, 2019 15:32:55 GMT
Getting ready for a battle or so it seems. I heard Lady Hale getting her opinions in first on the radio a couple of days back. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50933535The last thing we need is politicians appointing judges. He's absolutely right Fel, it's a political court.
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 28, 2019 15:42:32 GMT
Lord Howe the former Home Sec having a go today...
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 28, 2019 15:47:57 GMT
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Post by felonious on Dec 28, 2019 16:24:51 GMT
Blair, eh
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Post by felonious on Dec 28, 2019 16:29:04 GMT
Getting ready for a battle or so it seems. I heard Lady Hale getting her opinions in first on the radio a couple of days back. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50933535The last thing we need is politicians appointing judges. He's absolutely right Fel, it's a political court. Interesting comments and then let's throw John Bercow's behaviour into the mix.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Dec 28, 2019 16:35:57 GMT
Two things are important. 1. In a democracy, we respect the verdict of the people, however much we dislike the outcome. 2. We respect the verdicts of the judges on matters of law, again even if we don't like them. The one example of the latter not being respected was the headline in the Daily Mail "Enemies of the people" with photos of the those concerned after a legal ruling over Brexit which did not suit their political stance. I worry about the role of social media,sometimes backed by wealthy but unaccountable individuals and organisations who attempt to manipulate public opinion, usually by "dishing the dirt" on opponents which now seems to have become normalised.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 28, 2019 16:46:25 GMT
Two things are important. 1. In a democracy, we respect the verdict of the people, however much we dislike the outcome. 2. We respect the verdicts of the judges on matters of law, again even if we don't like them. The one example of the latter not being respected was the headline in the Daily Mail "Enemies of the people" with photos of the those concerned after a legal ruling over Brexit which did not suit their political stance. I worry about the role of social media,sometimes backed by wealthy but unaccountable individuals and organisations who attempt to manipulate public opinion, usually by "dishing the dirt" on opponents which now seems to have become normalised. But the two have got to be separate and the law judges independent..... how they are appointed suggests that they might not be independent.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Dec 28, 2019 17:25:04 GMT
Two things are important. 1. In a democracy, we respect the verdict of the people, however much we dislike the outcome. 2. We respect the verdicts of the judges on matters of law, again even if we don't like them. The one example of the latter not being respected was the headline in the Daily Mail "Enemies of the people" with photos of the those concerned after a legal ruling over Brexit which did not suit their political stance. I worry about the role of social media,sometimes backed by wealthy but unaccountable individuals and organisations who attempt to manipulate public opinion, usually by "dishing the dirt" on opponents which now seems to have become normalised. But the two have got to be separate and the law judges independent..... how they are appointed suggests that they might not be independent. I agree, but I don't think we have reached the situation as in the States where appointments to the Supreme Court are blatantly political
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 28, 2019 20:23:39 GMT
Lord Howe the former Home Sec having a go today... Are you sure?
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 29, 2019 9:04:44 GMT
Lord Howe the former Home Sec having a go today... Are you sure? No, My bad, it was Lord Howard!
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