Which players are even potentially movable in January?

[FullerMagic]

GK:


Federici 2020
Butland 2021
Davies Unknown

RB:

Smith 2022
Bauer 2022
Edwards 2024


LB:

Ward 2020
Tymon 2022

CB:

CCV 2020
Shawcross 2021
Batth 2022
BMI 2022
Souttar 2022
Wimmer 2022
Collins 2024
Lindsay Unknown

CM:

Duffy 2020
Imbula 2021
Allen 2022
Ndiaye 2022
Clucas 2022
Etebo 2023
Sorensen 2023
Woods Unknown
Powell Unknown
Cousins Unknown

RW:

Ince 2022

LW:

McClean 2022
Verlinden 2022

STR:

Hogan 2020
Diouf 2020
Campbell 2020
Gregory 2021
Ngoy 2022
Vokes 2022
Afobe Unknown

[dingdongbell]

Depends if anyone is daft enough to want any of them . We could get done by trades description..

[Edward Tattsyrup]

Butland, Allen, Etebo and Badu.

The rest is a festering pile of shite, that we will have to pay off to get rid of.

[JurgenVandeurzen]

I'm not even convinced the clowns at the top of the club can see that we need a clear out - I'm really not.

I'm pretty sure with footballers being greedy bastards they'll all be looking for a way out of the club, that's our only saving grace.

Hopefully, they can force their way out.

[Veritas]

Dec 21, 2019 18:17:08 GMT Edward Tattsyrup said:

Butland, Allen, Etebo and Badu.

The rest is a festering pile of shite, that we will have to pay off to get rid of.

I think Clucas could also generate some interest along with hopefully the return of some, ideally all, the loanees.

[wrexhamstokie90]

Sell them all because there value only getting lower by the game

[FrankButcher]

Dec 21, 2019 20:43:04 GMT JurgenVandeurzen said:

I'm not even convinced the clowns at the top of the club can see that we need a clear out - I'm really not.

I'm pretty sure with footballers being greedy bastards they'll all be looking for a way out of the club, that's our only saving grace.

Hopefully, they can force their way out.

They promised an overhaul upon relegation and did the square root of f*** all. I'm with you on your point about them not knowing what a squad clear out is like they told rowett that the defence didnt need touching complete bunch of clowns.

[Gods]

If we are talking transfers rather than loans then to square the circle we would need:

1.A transfer fee we would accept presumably based on what we paid for them
AND
2.A wage offer the player would accept presumably based on their current earnings at Stoke City.

I think there is only Joe Allen who would tick both boxes.

[dutchstokie]

Dec 21, 2019 21:09:10 GMT Gods said:

If we are talking transfers rather than loans then to square the circle we would need:

1.A transfer fee we would accept presumably based on what we paid for them
AND
2.A wage offer the player would accept presumably based on their current earnings at Stoke City.

I think there is only Joe Allen who would tick both boxes.

I’m not so sure.... if things get worse, which CAN happen, then for the sake of a few sheckels, I think some players would say to their agents “ I want out of here” and negotiate a reduced wage with The proposed new club

[FullerMagic]

Dec 21, 2019 21:09:10 GMT Gods said:

If we are talking transfers rather than loans then to square the circle we would need:

1.A fee we would accept presumably based on what we paid for them
AND
2.A wage offer the player would accept presumably based on their current earnings at Stoke City.

I think there is only Joe Allen who would tick both boxes.

The proof will be in the pudding on Allen. The perception seems to be he still has a Premier League market at the kind of fee we paid, but I'm still not convinced. The rumours recently seem very sketchy.

I suppose there may be a chance of getting £8-10m, and I'd bite anyone's hand off for that.

Hopefully that's the kind of fee we would take for Butland now too, and the hunt for a farcically high fee for him is now over. Next season is his last under contract. I'd take £8m for him now. I think it's conceivable someone may offer that for a 26yo English keeper with his experience.

Etebo is a tricky one. No idea what we could get. I just hope we've tested the waters and there is actually a market for him at at least what we paid if we've put his nose out of joint to this extent. If we end up with some shitty loan, it will be laughable.

I'd take £2-3m for BMI to shift his wages.

I think it's conceivable there's a market for Woods at that kind of price too, given his Championship pedigree. His wages will be top-end for this league though, so who knows?

And the only other one that springs to mind is Powell. I'd still look to use him and start him - but if that isn't in the plan (and MON seems very wedded to a system he's totally ill-suited for), he may as well go.

If there really was a stampede for him in the summer, we probably could get a couple of mill for him despite his top Champo wages - but the fact he's so wedded to the north-west would limit the field.

Any others would probably be a struggle.

Vokes and Ince, for example - no chance - as well as nearly all the absolute shite Jones lumbered us with.

Hopefully Spurs will be receptive to ending CCV's loan and placing him somewhere he'll actually play. Again, there was supposedly a big demand for him, and Duffy too will hopefully want to play.

Not sure about Hogan though, but we can only hope.

[likelyladgalizmo]

Joe Allen,Etebo,Tyrese and the loan Guys.

[shrewspotter]

I genuinely couldn’t be arsed if we sold 15 or so players. Butland, Federici, Smith, Edwards, CCV, Indi, Baath, Ward, Woods, Badou, Allen, Cousins, Clucas, Etebo, Ince, Powell, Vokes, McClean, Duffy, Hogan and Campbell can all leave as far as I’m concerned. They’ll all not fit to wear the shirt. Fuck em off stoke, I’d rather play the kids and go down with our heads held high

[Gods]

Dec 21, 2019 21:28:08 GMT FullerMagic said:

Dec 21, 2019 21:09:10 GMT Gods said:

If we are talking transfers rather than loans then to square the circle we would need:

1.A fee we would accept presumably based on what we paid for them
AND
2.A wage offer the player would accept presumably based on their current earnings at Stoke City.

I think there is only Joe Allen who would tick both boxes.

The proof will be in the pudding on Allen. The perception seems to be he still has a Premier League market at the kind of fee we paid, but I'm still not convinced. The rumours recently seem very sketchy.

I suppose there may be a chance of getting £8-10m, and I'd bite anyone's hand off for that.

Hopefully that's the kind of fee we would take for Butland now too, and the hunt for a farcically high fee for him is now over. Next season is his last under contract. I'd take £8m for him now. I think it's conceivable someone may offer that for a 26yo English keeper with his experience.

Etebo is a tricky one. No idea what we could get. I just hope we've tested the waters and there is actually a market for him at at least what we paid if we've put his nose out of joint to this extent. If we end up with some shitty loan, it will be laughable.

I'd take £2-3m for BMI to shift his wages.

I think it's conceivable there's a market for Woods at that kind of price too, given his Championship pedigree. His wages will be top-end for this league though, so who knows?

And the only other one that springs to mind is Powell. I'd still look to use him and start him - but if that isn't in the plan (and MON seems very wedded to a system he's totally ill-suited for), he may as well go.

If there really was a stampede for him in the summer, we probably could get a couple of mill for him despite his top Champo wages - but the fact he's so wedded to the north-west would limit the field.

Any others would probably be a struggle.

Vokes and Ince, for example - no chance - as well as nearly all the absolute shite Jones lumbered us with.

Hopefully Spurs will be receptive to ending CCV's loan and placing him somewhere he'll actually play. Again, there was supposedly a big demand for him, and Duffy too will hopefully want to play.

Not sure about Hogan though, but we can only hope.

I agree with most/all of that analysis.

The 2 players I have most doubts about though are the fans 2 favourites on here, Badou and Etebo, I don't think their stars shine nearly as bright outside of the Potteries as many people seem to believe.

They just appear as 2 players who have never managed to hold down a place in a Stoke City team heading for Division 3 faster than a greased pig, and for Badou you can probably add the label 'possible trouble maker'.

Etebo was £6.5m and Bado an eye watering £14m.

This may explain why every time we have hawked Badou around thus far the only team a jot bit interested have been some Turks without 2 coins to rub together.

I'm more hopeful on Etebo not least since our idea of an acceptable transfer fee you would imagine would be less.

In the end, if they do leave in January, and it's still a big if for me, my guess is it will most likely be a loan for both of them.

[rawli]

By 'Davies unknown' do you mean no tucker has ever seen him?

[FullerMagic]

Possibly a bit overpriced...

[gingerninja]

From reading the full transcript of O'Neill's post Boro interview, I would say he's looking to really shake up the starting 11 if he can. I would say possibly as many as four new faces for the starting 11. I see only Shawcross & Clucas, maybe McClean as definitely to remain in the starting 11?

[tejstokie]

Dec 22, 2019 8:29:53 GMT FullerMagic said:

Possibly a bit overpriced...

Surprised it took this long for that post honestly. This is the worst Stoke first squad without guile or desire in sometime. They are simply uninspiring even to life long fans. It's that dire week in, week out.

[cyprus1stokey]

just read this about stoke on e bay cracked me up, well done mate