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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 21, 2019 8:55:44 GMT
Butland 7, I thought he should have done better with the first we conceded, but also made a couple of really good saves.
Smith 5, not focused enough for their first goal and made sure their striker stayed onside.
Batth 6, could easily have prevented the first goal by staying with their striker.
Lindsay 6, didn't do too badly, but looks a bit shaky on too many occasions. Needs to be replaced with Shawcross or Collins ASAP!
Ward 5, absolutely no contribution going forward and really struggled with their winger.
Cousins 6, not too bad before their second, but must take his share of blame for that one. Wasn't even able to foul their player!
Allen 7.5, our best midfielder by far yesterday.
Clucas 6, scored a goal and should have had a penalty, but too invisible in large parts of the game.
Ince 5, I've defended Tom several times, but yesterday I thought he was really bad!
Gregory 6, works hard and holds the ball up well, but he is no threat on crosses and wasn't close to scoring even once.
McClean 5, his second game in a row with almost no attacking contribution.
Powell 6, showed some nice touches, but there isn't easy to create anything at Stoke it seems.
Vokes 4, looks so slow and heavy!
Diouf 5, shows desire but not much time to make an impact.
Could we please get Etebo and Shawcross back in the team for the Sheffield Wednesday game!
..................Butland...............
Smith......Shawcross...Batth......Clucas
Allen.......Badou......Cousins.....Etebo
.............Diouf..Powell..............
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Post by citynickscfc on Dec 21, 2019 9:09:04 GMT
Butland 7, I thought he should have done better with the first we conceded, but also made a couple of really good saves. Smith 5, not focused enough for their first goal and made sure their striker stayed onside. Batth 6, could easily have prevented the first goal by staying with their striker. Lindsay 6, didn't do too badly, but looks a bit shaky on too many occasions. Needs to be replaced with Shawcross or Collins ASAP! Ward 5, absolutely no contribution going forward and really struggled with their winger. Cousins 6, not too bad before their second, but must take his share of blame for that one. Wasn't even able to foul their player! Allen 7.5, our best midfielder by far yesterday. Clucas 6, scored a goal and should have had a penalty, but too invisible in large parts of the game. Ince 5, I've defended Tom several times, but yesterday I thought he was really bad! Gregory 6, works hard and holds the ball up well, but he is no threat on crosses and wasn't close to scoring even once. McClean 5, his second game in a row with almost no attacking contribution. Powell 6, showed some nice touches, but there isn't easy to create anything at Stoke it seems. Vokes 4, looks so slow and heavy! Diouf 5, shows desire but not much time to make an impact. Could we please get Etebo and Shawcross back in the team for the Sheffield Wednesday game! ..................Butland............... Smith......Shawcross...Batth......Clucas Allen.......Badou......Cousins.....Etebo .............Diouf..Powell.............. Way too kind. 6 for everyone, apart from Ince who gets 5 for wasting everything and not putting in the effort, the defence all get 5 for being shit, apart from ward who was a 4, and is generally really really crap. Oh and cousins gets 3, terrible terrible game, zero presence |
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 21, 2019 9:25:43 GMT
Butland 7, I thought he should have done better with the first we conceded, but also made a couple of really good saves. Smith 5, not focused enough for their first goal and made sure their striker stayed onside. Batth 6, could easily have prevented the first goal by staying with their striker. Lindsay 6, didn't do too badly, but looks a bit shaky on too many occasions. Needs to be replaced with Shawcross or Collins ASAP! Ward 5, absolutely no contribution going forward and really struggled with their winger. Cousins 6, not too bad before their second, but must take his share of blame for that one. Wasn't even able to foul their player! Allen 7.5, our best midfielder by far yesterday. Clucas 6, scored a goal and should have had a penalty, but too invisible in large parts of the game. Ince 5, I've defended Tom several times, but yesterday I thought he was really bad! Gregory 6, works hard and holds the ball up well, but he is no threat on crosses and wasn't close to scoring even once. McClean 5, his second game in a row with almost no attacking contribution. Powell 6, showed some nice touches, but there isn't easy to create anything at Stoke it seems. Vokes 4, looks so slow and heavy! Diouf 5, shows desire but not much time to make an impact. Could we please get Etebo and Shawcross back in the team for the Sheffield Wednesday game! ..................Butland............... Smith......Shawcross...Batth......Clucas Allen.......Badou......Cousins.....Etebo .............Diouf..Powell.............. Way too kind. 6 for everyone, apart from Ince who gets 5 for wasting everything and not putting in the effort, the defence all get 5 for being shit, apart from ward who was a 4, and is generally really really crap. Oh and cousins gets 3, terrible terrible game, zero presence We actually dominated the game in the first half, but after we took the lead it was standard procedure and we lost of course!  |
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Post by citynickscfc on Dec 21, 2019 9:45:12 GMT
Way too kind. 6 for everyone, apart from Ince who gets 5 for wasting everything and not putting in the effort, the defence all get 5 for being shit, apart from ward who was a 4, and is generally really really crap. Oh and cousins gets 3, terrible terrible game, zero presence We actually dominated the game in the first half, but after we took the lead it was standard procedure and we lost of course! Exactly, you have to factor in the entire game. Ratings should be made over the course of the game and generally are accumulated in his the players end the game. A player who scores two but then scores 2 own goals generally gets 5. First half becomes irrelevant when we play that shit second half |
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Post by leicspotter on Dec 21, 2019 10:28:51 GMT
Battlers 2 v 1 Bottlers! 
Butland 7, couple of v good saves Smith 3, we desperately need a decent RB Batth 5, Lindsay 6, Ward 3, we desperate;y need a LB Cousins 2, was he playing? Allen 6, busy, but not very effective Clucas 6, our most potent threat...which says a lot about the team Ince 1, should be ashamed of himself...but won't be Gregory 6, set up the goal and the penalty claim, far more mobile than Vokes, but little goal threat McClean 4, Powell 5, should have started instead of Ince Vokes 1, ambled onto the pitch, and pretty much stayed still after that...another one who should hang his head in shame...but won't Diouf 3, I like Mame's effort but his first touch (?) summed him up This really is a very unlikeable bunch of mercenaries. Boro' patched up their squad with kids but showed effort, attitude, energy and pace such that they didn't need to be very good to beat is quite easily in the end, which in itself is frightening. We fell apart once they equalised because the players have no balls and most don't even seem to care. I feel for MON, he has inherited the poorest (in attitude) players that this club has EVER had. There is a relegation battle in progress but most of our squad has already gone AWOL 
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 21, 2019 11:57:16 GMT
Butland 7, I thought he should have done better with the first we conceded, but also made a couple of really good saves. Smith 5, not focused enough for their first goal and made sure their striker stayed onside. Batth 6, could easily have prevented the first goal by staying with their striker. Lindsay 6, didn't do too badly, but looks a bit shaky on too many occasions. Needs to be replaced with Shawcross or Collins ASAP! Ward 5, absolutely no contribution going forward and really struggled with their winger. Cousins 6, not too bad before their second, but must take his share of blame for that one. Wasn't even able to foul their player! Allen 7.5, our best midfielder by far yesterday. Clucas 6, scored a goal and should have had a penalty, but too invisible in large parts of the game. Ince 5, I've defended Tom several times, but yesterday I thought he was really bad! Gregory 6, works hard and holds the ball up well, but he is no threat on crosses and wasn't close to scoring even once. McClean 5, his second game in a row with almost no attacking contribution. Powell 6, showed some nice touches, but there isn't easy to create anything at Stoke it seems. Vokes 4, looks so slow and heavy! Diouf 5, shows desire but not much time to make an impact. Extremely generous marks imho I wouldn't give anyone apart Butland anything above 4 They are a disgrace. Completely capitulated 2nd half against a Reserve team who were in very bad shape. As soon as they showed any desire we rolled over. I'm gobsmacked at the mark given to Allen, Clucas and Gregory. No desire whatsoever. |
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Post by albundy on Dec 21, 2019 12:06:57 GMT
Nobody should get above a 5 IMO
Dominated the first half? How exactly, playing balls backwards and across the back 4?
It took until about the 42nd minute to have a shot on target against a side with zero confidence and getting booed by their fans
Anyone can run round a bit and look busy but there was no skill, no creativity and no intensity shown at all
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Post by waffles on Dec 21, 2019 12:12:37 GMT
The match was a tallest dwarf competition, we were just a bit shitter
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Dec 21, 2019 12:25:07 GMT
Butland 6
Smith 5
Batth 5
Lindsay 5
Ward 5
Ince 1
Cousins 4
Allen 6
Clucas 5
Mclean 4
Gregory 5
Powell 3
Vokes 2
Diouf 3
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 21, 2019 12:32:00 GMT
Nobody should get above a 5 IMO Dominated the first half? How exactly, playing balls backwards and across the back 4? It took until about the 42nd minute to have a shot on target against a side with zero confidence and getting booed by their fans Anyone can run round a bit and look busy but there was no skill, no creativity and no intensity shown at all 5 is generous imho. Bottlers to a man. The most creative thing they've done this season is to cup their ears. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 13:35:08 GMT
Everyone: 4's.
Special mentions for Ince: 1
Cousins :3
Vokes: 2
Mclean and Gregory were ok they can have 5.5's.
EDIT - Lindsey can have a 3 as well. dreadful touch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 13:46:59 GMT
Butland 6 - fine
Smith 4 - did nothing going forward and poor defending for their first
Batth 5 - fine bar their first
Lindsay 5 - fine bar their first
Ward 4 - meh, nothing.
Cousins 4 - did alright for a bit but just not a defensive midfielder. Shouldn't have gone flying in for their second with only Allen behind
Allen 4 - What does he do? Infuriatingly decided to stop halfway through a press and jog back for their second. Take whatever West Ham offer.
Clucas 5 - Anonymous. +1 for the goal.
Ince 2 - Like Allen but without the running around. Contributes nothing.
Gregory 6 - Did his best with absolutely no help. Good running.
McClean 6 - Did his best with absolutely no help. Couple of good crosses and ran at his man.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 13:48:19 GMT
Butland Allen and Clucas the only ones that at least put a shift in. If it wasn’t for Jack we would have got stuffed 5. Allen tried at least to pick up the second balls and put himself about and clucas is the only real bit of quality we have in the team.
The rest can seriously fuck off
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Post by fazza90 on Dec 21, 2019 13:51:37 GMT
There's no way Ince should start the next game after that. Cousins almost to the same degree.
Thought Lindsay did alright to be honest and has improved a lot from his awful start to the season, Baath on the other hand is dreadful and shouldn't be playing. Even if we can't replace them or get a fee I would honestly prefer to pay Baath, Cousins, Vokes, Ince off in January, just get them out of the club and play some youngsters like Verlinden and Collins.
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Post by marylandstoke on Dec 21, 2019 13:54:12 GMT
I’m finding it difficult to think of a worse side I’ve seen in very close to fifty years.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Dec 21, 2019 13:58:05 GMT
Butland Allen and Clucas the only ones that at least put a shift in. If it wasn’t for Jack we would have got stuffed 5. Allen tried at least to pick up the second balls and put himself about and clucas is the only real bit of quality we have in the team. The rest can seriously fuck off Seriously Clucas and putting in a shift do not go together He is a show pony For a central midfielder goes awol far too much |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 21, 2019 14:18:30 GMT
Ince 0
Everyone else 3.
Manager 0 for persisting with ince. A cardboard cutout of sir Stan would put in more crosses. Or maybe TC should be reactivated.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 15:20:04 GMT
Butland Allen and Clucas the only ones that at least put a shift in. If it wasn’t for Jack we would have got stuffed 5. Allen tried at least to pick up the second balls and put himself about and clucas is the only real bit of quality we have in the team. The rest can seriously fuck off Seriously Clucas and putting in a shift do not go together He is a show pony For a central midfielder goes awol far too much He’s the only bright spark in this shower of shit we have. If we could get him on the ball he has showed he has quality to make things happen. |
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Post by albundy on Dec 21, 2019 15:34:41 GMT
Seriously Clucas and putting in a shift do not go together He is a show pony For a central midfielder goes awol far too much He’s the only bright spark in this shower of shit we have. If we could get him on the ball he has showed he has quality to make things happen. Just a shame he is usually seen running away from whoever is in possession rather than actually wanting the ball |
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