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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 14:27:12 GMT
Joe Allen is the best player at our club,bar none.Fortunately he has stayed loyal despite the best, or is it worst, efforts of our "Snowflake-Like"fans to harass him. I do not use the word supporter to describe these troublemakers, because that's exactly what they're not. They're disruptive miscreants, with a highly-exagerated perception of their own malicious viewpoint. Bandwagon jumpers, who seek the endorsement of identical and bitter reprobates. I admire Joe for ridiculing this tiny gaggle of myopic neanderthalic subspecies. Joe was not,imho, rebuking the true supporters who are understandably concerned by our current position in this division. He was merely showing his own distaste for the reprehensible and naive behaviour of a petty but sometimes vocal element of misguided dissidents. Well done Joe Allen👍 Is that a very, very late entry for 'most ridiculous post of 2019'? If so, you have my vote 👍
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 14:45:59 GMT
My main issue with Joe Allen is that he doesn’t read the game at all and is therefore constantly out of position. He compensates for that with his work rate & on a good day that’s enough. Sadly those good days don’t come along anywhere near often enough. Contrast him with someone like Nzonzi who you never saw haring around like a deranged Tasmanian Devil but who always seemed to be in the right place at the right time. Joe Allen’s first touch is also embarrassing for someone who claims to be a professional footballer. I've just watched Preston-Cardiff. If Joe Allen is worth £10m, Ben Pearson is worth £100m. Knows how to run a midfield. Gets stuck in. Works around the pitch to good effect. Uses the ball well. Doesn't come with a either huge price tag, an over-inflated ego, or a chip on his shoulder, and doesn't have people spaffing all over him 'because he's Joe Allen'.
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Post by block23 on Dec 21, 2019 18:30:27 GMT
I’m struggling with this one. I am not trying to defend Joe, but I just do not see that he is either the main problem or our worst player. With his ability, he clearly should be doing better for us and leading by example, but there are far bigger issues to resolve. It can be Walters, Whelan, Erik, and in the past couple of seasons Ryan, who become the target of the boo boys and yet we miss them all when they have gone. I think Allen will be the same. Criticise a poor performance, no problem. Have a go at him for ear cupping, no problem, (but a bit rich from some who give out constant abuse but can’t take anything back to them). Reading some of the comments, worst player in recent times, reason we were relegated, reason for current decline, I just can’t agree with. By contrast, the swathes of support until the near end for NJ who in my view was one of the biggest disasters of a manger I have witnessed in 50 odd years of watching Stoke baffled me at the time and still does. Anyway, I can’t see how we get out of this mess, league 1 beckons I’m afraid Theres nothing more rich than a footballer who has twice gone on record to praise supporters who have been patient through some hard times, only to turn 180 degrees and cup his ears after one game of mild criticism, wearing the armband to boot. It isn't about being sensitive or a snowflake or whatever, it's about good people losing their jobs after a bunch of overpaid footballers feel it below them to go out and try their best. Make no mistake, there will be a catastrophic loss of jobs should we drop to League One. Don't worry though, the heroes on the pitch will walk into their next contract alright. Like the rest of them, he is an arsehole that is best served away from this club and I for one can't wait for that day. I get your point and as I said I was not defending Joe, but he is far from the worst in this squad. He was the only person trying to track back for their goal last night, everyone else went missing or did not engage.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 18:33:02 GMT
My main issue with Joe Allen is that he doesn’t read the game at all and is therefore constantly out of position. He compensates for that with his work rate & on a good day that’s enough. Sadly those good days don’t come along anywhere near often enough. Contrast him with someone like Nzonzi who you never saw haring around like a deranged Tasmanian Devil but who always seemed to be in the right place at the right time. Joe Allen’s first touch is also embarrassing for someone who claims to be a professional footballer. I've just watched Preston-Cardiff. If Joe Allen is worth £10m, Ben Pearson is worth £100m. Knows how to run a midfield. Gets stuck in. Works around the pitch to good effect. Uses the ball well. Doesn't come with a either huge price tag, an over-inflated ego, or a chip on his shoulder, and doesn't have people spaffing all over him 'because he's Joe Allen'. Ben Pearson is wank, and isn't half the player that Joe Allen is. Ben Pearson will never ever reach the heights of professional football that Joe Allen has, that is a fact.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 20:39:05 GMT
I've just watched Preston-Cardiff. If Joe Allen is worth £10m, Ben Pearson is worth £100m. Knows how to run a midfield. Gets stuck in. Works around the pitch to good effect. Uses the ball well. Doesn't come with a either huge price tag, an over-inflated ego, or a chip on his shoulder, and doesn't have people spaffing all over him 'because he's Joe Allen'. Ben Pearson is wank, and isn't half the player that Joe Allen is. Ben Pearson will never ever reach the heights of professional football that Joe Allen has, that is a fact. Excellent, I love well-delivered sarcasm.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 20:40:17 GMT
Ben Pearson is wank, and isn't half the player that Joe Allen is. Ben Pearson will never ever reach the heights of professional football that Joe Allen has, that is a fact. Excellent, I love well-delivered sarcasm. Ben Pearson is shit. He's a bog standard hatchet man.
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Post by march4 on Dec 21, 2019 20:44:47 GMT
It’s time for Joe to move to another club.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 21, 2019 22:58:51 GMT
Says West Ham have bid 9m but we’re holding out for 15m. If true what planet are our board on.
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Post by bloodtypered on Dec 21, 2019 23:10:35 GMT
To the minority
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 21, 2019 23:49:08 GMT
My main issue with Joe Allen is that he doesn’t read the game at all and is therefore constantly out of position. He compensates for that with his work rate & on a good day that’s enough. Sadly those good days don’t come along anywhere near often enough. Contrast him with someone like Nzonzi who you never saw haring around like a deranged Tasmanian Devil but who always seemed to be in the right place at the right time. Joe Allen’s first touch is also embarrassing for someone who claims to be a professional footballer. I've just watched Preston-Cardiff. If Joe Allen is worth £10m, Ben Pearson is worth £100m. Knows how to run a midfield. Gets stuck in. Works around the pitch to good effect. Uses the ball well. Doesn't come with a either huge price tag, an over-inflated ego, or a chip on his shoulder, and doesn't have people spaffing all over him 'because he's Joe Allen'. There were 2 players last season that stood out for me. Eze and Pearson No idea what they would have cost to get them here in the summer but I reckon change out of £20m. A midfield 3 of ----- Pearson ----- Etebo -------- Eze Or Pearson ------ Etebo ----- Eze ----- What could have been. Still the current incumbent doesnt seem to fancy Etebo so we would never know.
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Post by BuzzB on Dec 22, 2019 0:05:49 GMT
Says West Ham have bid 9m but we’re holding out for 15m. If true what planet are our board on. if this is fact then it just................oh fuck it, why bother. Lessons learned. Scholes out!
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Post by pushon on Dec 22, 2019 0:36:00 GMT
It’s time for Joe to move to another club. You're right there March, he needs to get away from the dim-witted sem-literates, who, from time to time, gate-crash this forum. It's essential that they forgot their uncultivated upbringing and strive to achieve a more cultured and less strident lifestyle. After all they've chosen to become Tories now and need to persue tollerance and temperance as their guiding lights. Casting aside thoughts of the dubious and scant rewards on offer for being a disciple of ragamuffin and wilfully disruptive anti-estalishment factions.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2019 11:03:01 GMT
Says West Ham have bid 9m but we’re holding out for 15m. If true what planet are our board on. Why sell him after the first bid? Get an auction going!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 11:04:46 GMT
It’s time for Joe to move to another club. You're right there March, he needs to get away from the dim-witted sem-literates, who, from time to time, gate-crash this forum. It's essential that they forgot their uncultivated upbringing and strive to achieve a more cultured and less strident lifestyle. After all they've chosen to become Tories now and need to persue tollerance and temperance as their guiding lights. Casting aside thoughts of the dubious and scant rewards on offer for being a disciple of ragamuffin and wilfully disruptive anti-estalishment factions. Pmmph
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Post by jeycov on Dec 22, 2019 13:41:37 GMT
Maybe Villa will be interested as news on John McGinn is that he has fractured his ankle
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 14:08:29 GMT
Maybe Villa will be interested as news on John McGinn is that he has fractured his ankle He'd fly into any relegation-threatened side 👍
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 22, 2019 14:54:28 GMT
Maybe Villa will be interested as news on John McGinn is that he has fractured his ankle Replacing McGinn with Allen would be like chopping your cock off and replacing it with a rolling pin.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 22, 2019 14:56:12 GMT
Maybe Villa will be interested as news on John McGinn is that he has fractured his ankle Replacing McGinn with Allen would be like chopping your cock off and replacing it with a rolling pin. Be an improvement for me fella!
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 22, 2019 14:56:53 GMT
My missus would go for that
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 22, 2019 15:32:23 GMT
Burnley have allegedly had a 9m bid for joe allen turned down.
Wages a stumbling block as he is on nearly double their current highest wage earner.
Wowsers.
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 22, 2019 17:28:07 GMT
If true, plain crazy, anything remotely close to £10 million would I think be decent business.
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Post by Davef on Dec 22, 2019 17:32:08 GMT
Burnley have allegedly had a 9m bid for joe allen turned down. Wages a stumbling block as he is on nearly double their current highest wage earner. Wowsers. Im not quite sure I'm getting you here Dave. If the club have turned down a bid then things wouldn't have got as far as Burnley realising they couldn't afford his wages would they?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 22, 2019 18:30:40 GMT
Burnley have allegedly had a 9m bid for joe allen turned down. Wages a stumbling block as he is on nearly double their current highest wage earner. Wowsers. Im not quite sure I'm getting you here Dave. If the club have turned down a bid then things wouldn't have got as far as Burnley realising they couldn't afford his wages would they? I dont know how these things work hence the allegedly. Surely you'd expect them to have found a way around any wage issue before going to the trouble of tabling a bid. As always, my burnley source is beyond impeccable but I dont see this one at all. They couldn't afford clucas once we entered the race for his signature. How they'd afford Allen god only knows.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 22, 2019 18:31:46 GMT
If true, plain crazy, anything remotely close to £10 million would I think be decent business. Mate...he could stay at mine whilst he finalised his deal if this is true.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 19:20:05 GMT
Whichever Premier League club he goes to I guarantee he’ll do a job for them.
Probably in a role that we’ve refused to play him in over the years.....
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Post by werrington on Dec 22, 2019 19:26:56 GMT
Whichever Premier League club he goes to I guarantee he’ll do a job for them. Probably in a role that we’ve refused to play him in over the years..... The role where he was a footballer at Swansea and Liverpool before we turned him into an engine?
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 22, 2019 19:41:43 GMT
Whichever Premier League club he goes to I guarantee he’ll do a job for them. Probably in a role that we’ve refused to play him in over the years..... The role where he was a footballer at Swansea and Liverpool before we turned him into an engine? Mark Hughes's idea.
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Post by newsteadst3 on Dec 22, 2019 19:42:52 GMT
Onw of the worst signings this club has ever done Is right lad, I hate it when he always get Mom. Shows how bad we are. Crab of a footballer.
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Post by werrington on Dec 22, 2019 19:54:24 GMT
The role where he was a footballer at Swansea and Liverpool before we turned him into an engine? Mark Hughes's idea. Doesn’t mean another 3 managers have to continue with it
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 22, 2019 20:17:26 GMT
Doesn’t mean another 3 managers have to continue with it They are all as culpable as the man who started this mad idea, what next Diouf at full back.
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