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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 16, 2019 10:00:30 GMT
Everyone seems to agree that Vokes isnt the man to lead the line but what is everyones opinion on who should be starting upfront?
Gregory
Diouf
Afobe (if he comes back)
Hogan
Vokes
Campbell
Gregory & Diouf are the only players that can actually play the lone striker role. Afobe & Hogan at least have some pace to run the channels. Vokes is the worst target man in history and Campbell just doesnt have the work ethic or stamina for the role.
I wonder if any fan would continue to play Vokes up front? I worry that MON is a stubborn bugger and will continue to play Vokes despite what EVERYONE else in the stadium can see
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Post by cooper67 on Dec 16, 2019 10:06:51 GMT
Rank them against what??
A lone post in a field? A pothole? My mum??
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 16, 2019 10:07:36 GMT
Diouf and Hogan for me as the front 2 if I had to pick any of em
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 16, 2019 10:08:36 GMT
Rank them against what?? A lone post in a field? A pothole? My mum?? "A pothole"  A pearler that one is ! Doff my cap to you sir ! |
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 16, 2019 10:12:35 GMT
Everyone seems to agree that Vokes isnt the man to lead the line but what is everyones opinion on who should be starting upfront? Gregory Diouf Afobe (if he comes back) Hogan Vokes Campbell Gregory & Diouf are the only players that can actually play the lone striker role. Afobe & Hogan at least have some pace to run the channels. Vokes is the worst target man in history and Campbell just doesnt have the work ethic or stamina for the role. I wonder if any fan would continue to play Vokes up front? I worry that MON is a stubborn bugger and will continue to play Vokes despite what EVERYONE else in the stadium can see Got to be Gregory or Diouf for me.
I have a feeling MON might try and bring in a striker during the window though.
The dissappearence of Gregory is very bizarre to me though. Just vanished all of a sudden.
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Post by tqstokie on Dec 16, 2019 10:13:32 GMT
I agree, rank bad.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 16, 2019 10:15:22 GMT
Starting a lone striker with the mobility of a washing machine, when we don’t have the players around him to capitalise IF he happens to win the ball, makes zero sense. Especially at home against anybody outside the top 2.
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Post by GoBoks on Dec 16, 2019 10:36:54 GMT
Everyone seems to agree that Vokes isnt the man to lead the line but what is everyones opinion on who should be starting upfront? Gregory Diouf Afobe (if he comes back) Hogan Vokes Campbell Gregory & Diouf are the only players that can actually play the lone striker role. Afobe & Hogan at least have some pace to run the channels. Vokes is the worst target man in history and Campbell just doesnt have the work ethic or stamina for the role. I wonder if any fan would continue to play Vokes up front? I worry that MON is a stubborn bugger and will continue to play Vokes despite what EVERYONE else in the stadium can see Got to be Gregory or Diouf for me. I have a feeling MON might try and bring in a striker during the window though.
The dissappearence of Gregory is very bizarre to me though. Just vanished all of a sudden.
About a month or so ago, people were complaining that it was about 5,000 games ago that we had last scored 3 or more goals and that we were the worst in the league. In the 7 games that MON has been in charge of the exact same players that achieved this remarkable statistic, we have scored 3 or more in 2 of them. Now people are complaining that he is stubborn because he doesn't play the players they think he should play? Keep right on being "stubborn" MON - I don't mind at all winning 4-2 and 3-0. |
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Post by bossthemidfield on Dec 16, 2019 10:38:18 GMT
Gregory and Hogan for me.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 16, 2019 10:50:03 GMT
Everyone seems to agree that Vokes isnt the man to lead the line but what is everyones opinion on who should be starting upfront? Gregory Diouf Afobe (if he comes back) Hogan Vokes Campbell Gregory & Diouf are the only players that can actually play the lone striker role. Afobe & Hogan at least have some pace to run the channels. Vokes is the worst target man in history and Campbell just doesnt have the work ethic or stamina for the role. I wonder if any fan would continue to play Vokes up front? I worry that MON is a stubborn bugger and will continue to play Vokes despite what EVERYONE else in the stadium can see Afobe Gregory Diouf Vokes Hogan Campbell |
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 16, 2019 10:51:31 GMT
Starting a lone striker with the mobility of a washing machine, when we don’t have the players around him to capitalise IF he happens to win the ball, makes zero sense. Especially at home against anybody outside the top 2. Totally agree. What amazes me about Vokes is his lack of anticipation for a striker. There was a case (one of several) when McClean put in what looked like a cross straight to their goalkeeper when Vokes had plenty of time to anticipate where the cross was going seeing as McClean was being squeezed by their full back. He could have got in before the keeper if he would have been remotely switched on or able to move quick enough. He was just no where near. Unless the ball is straight on his head he's not going to do anything. |
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Post by malisastokie on Dec 16, 2019 11:15:53 GMT
Campbell
Hogan
Gregory
Diouf
Vokes
Campbell can score goals but can't play more than 45 minutes.
Hogan can score goals but must have a partner.
Gregory can't score but can lead the line.
Diouf can't score goals but creates havoc with back 4
Vokes ... Bring back Crouchie
Our best combination is Gregory and Hogan but no chance in a 4/3/3
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 11:32:12 GMT
They are all at a special level of mediocre each have pluses but also a heap of negatives that more than cancel out the pluses.
End result being that it really doesn't matter who of our strikers play up front as they are all wank.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 16, 2019 11:39:25 GMT
Oh for an actual top striker at Stoke. When was the last time we had one of our players in the top scorers charts? Probably have to go back to the likes of Mike Sheron
ST UPDATED – 9:00am Monday 16th December 2019
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Fulham) 16 goals, 1 assist
Jarrod Bowen (Hull) 15 goals, 4 assists
Ollie Watkins (Brentford) 13 goals, 2 assists
Steven Fletcher (Sheffield Wednesday) 12 goals, 2 assists
Karlan Grant (Huddersfield) 12 goals, 2 assists
Lewis Grabban (Nottingham Forest) 10 goals, 1 assist
Eberechi Eze (QPR) 9 goals, 4 assists
Patrick Bamford (Leeds) 9 goals, 2 assists
Cauley Woodrow (Barnsley) 9 goals, 1 assist
Bradley Dack (Blackburn) 9 goals, 1 assist
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Post by musik on Dec 16, 2019 11:44:15 GMT
Tricky question, since noone stands out in particular
Campbell : Hopefully they'll find out about his medical problem, or what's wrong with him. He should last 90 mins.
Afobe : I wish him the best! He has it somewhere within him.
Hogan : Hasn't played that much. Hard to tell.
Gregory : Has unfortunately had it though so far.
Vokes : What?
Diouf : No.
Campbell - Afobe it is
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 12:21:18 GMT
It's spelt with a W
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Post by thestatusquo on Dec 16, 2019 12:32:54 GMT
Everyone seems to agree that Vokes isnt the man to lead the line but what is everyones opinion on who should be starting upfront? Gregory Diouf Afobe (if he comes back) Hogan Vokes Campbell Gregory & Diouf are the only players that can actually play the lone striker role. Afobe & Hogan at least have some pace to run the channels. Vokes is the worst target man in history and Campbell just doesnt have the work ethic or stamina for the role. I wonder if any fan would continue to play Vokes up front? I worry that MON is a stubborn bugger and will continue to play Vokes despite what EVERYONE else in the stadium can see Or as Jonathon Ross would say :- Wank! Our current strikers. which is closer to the truth! |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 16, 2019 12:41:32 GMT
Gregory has been full on Bomb squaded by the looks of it.
We just have to accept that O'Neil is going to carry on picking Vokes until we all die of boredom or are relegated, whichever comes first.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 16, 2019 12:44:33 GMT
Bad players or victims of a duff attacking system.
Even now I still can’t really answer that question.
One or two have records elsewhere that show it might be the latter.
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Post by robstokie on Dec 16, 2019 13:51:34 GMT
1.Gregory - only man who can suit our current system with 1 up top. Can do a bit of everything, excellent work-rate and a good link player. Only thing missing is his finishing.
2.Hogan - best finisher at the club, would need to play in a 2 or be used as an impact sub if we are looking to hit teams on break
3.Campbell - young and still raw, needs game time and a new deal here if we are going to get best out of him. There's something about him that suggests he will come good if given his chance, but his dad's presence and being exiled from the squad will waste him.
3.Afobe - obviously got a solid record at this level, but didnt really work in a similar system we played last year. Hope Bristol City will come in for him permanently and a fresh start will be best for all parties.
3.Diouf - good for putting the shitters up the opposition with pace, and gets into good positions, but not the answer for me - he's off in the summer anyway probably
Last.Vokes - unfit, lazy, doesn't offer any threat and pretty poor in front of goal. Alright, system doesnt suit him whatsoever, but his work-rate and desire leaves a lot to be desired!
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Post by sensiblestokie on Dec 16, 2019 13:55:15 GMT
I’d be ok with any from Afobe, Diouf or Hogan. As I think they can all get a good amount of goals.
Seems a bit harsh on Gregory who runs his knackers off and is very good at his hold up play, but I don’t see the goals in him.
Maybe as a two I would have Gregory, but as a lone front man it’s a no for me.
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Post by sensiblestokie on Dec 16, 2019 13:57:01 GMT
Just to add to that I think Vokes is awful, and always has been.
Campbell, I think will be a League One player at best.
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 16, 2019 14:00:58 GMT
To think we forced Afobe out on loan and replaced him with far worse. A fit Afobe is still better than anyone else on our books!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 16, 2019 14:01:17 GMT
If you give marks out of 10.
Between them I would give 20/60.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 14:16:09 GMT
3.Diouf - good for putting the shitters up the opposition with pace, and gets into good positions, but not the answer for me - he's off in the summer anyway probably If Diouf was offered a one year extension, he would probably stay; you might suspect that possibility is why he has looked so good when he's come on. I wouldn't go that far. I think he's looked good because he actually cares about the club where he's spent 5½ years of his career and where he's been well looked after, during the family tragedies that threw him off balance. I know caring about your club is a very strange concept for the modern day Stoke fan, but you only have to see how everybody, and I mean everybody, celebrated his goal a few weeks ago. |
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Post by nonameface on Dec 16, 2019 15:00:31 GMT
Should the subject be....
Rank; our current strikers
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Post by thestatusquo on Dec 16, 2019 15:08:27 GMT
Gregory has been full on Bomb squaded by the looks of it. We just have to accept that O'Neil is going to carry on picking Vokes until we all die of boredom or are relegated, whichever comes first. I don’t think they are mutely exclusive Sheik 😄 |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 16, 2019 15:20:06 GMT
Oh for an actual top striker at Stoke. When was the last time we had one of our players in the top scorers charts? Probably have to go back to the likes of Mike Sheron ST UPDATED – 9:00am Monday 16th December 2019 Aleksandar Mitrovic (Fulham) 16 goals, 1 assist Jarrod Bowen (Hull) 15 goals, 4 assists Ollie Watkins (Brentford) 13 goals, 2 assists Steven Fletcher (Sheffield Wednesday) 12 goals, 2 assists Karlan Grant (Huddersfield) 12 goals, 2 assists Lewis Grabban (Nottingham Forest) 10 goals, 1 assist Eberechi Eze (QPR) 9 goals, 4 assists Patrick Bamford (Leeds) 9 goals, 2 assists Cauley Woodrow (Barnsley) 9 goals, 1 assist Bradley Dack (Blackburn) 9 goals, 1 assist It was either Crouch, or wait for it......Diouf. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 16, 2019 15:36:12 GMT
Oh for an actual top striker at Stoke. When was the last time we had one of our players in the top scorers charts? Probably have to go back to the likes of Mike Sheron ST UPDATED – 9:00am Monday 16th December 2019 Aleksandar Mitrovic (Fulham) 16 goals, 1 assist Jarrod Bowen (Hull) 15 goals, 4 assists Ollie Watkins (Brentford) 13 goals, 2 assists Steven Fletcher (Sheffield Wednesday) 12 goals, 2 assists Karlan Grant (Huddersfield) 12 goals, 2 assists Lewis Grabban (Nottingham Forest) 10 goals, 1 assist Eberechi Eze (QPR) 9 goals, 4 assists Patrick Bamford (Leeds) 9 goals, 2 assists Cauley Woodrow (Barnsley) 9 goals, 1 assist Bradley Dack (Blackburn) 9 goals, 1 assist It was either Crouch, or wait for it......Diouf. Fuller was joint 10th (probs the last spot where you can say he was a top scorer) in 08/09 with 11 goals. Crouch was joint 13th in 11/12 Diouf was joint 9th in 14/15. |
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Post by royalewithcheese on Dec 16, 2019 15:46:48 GMT
*wank, our current strikers
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