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Post by franklin66 on Dec 9, 2019 14:10:40 GMT
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Post by ashtonstokie on Dec 9, 2019 15:52:46 GMT
Mental how they still let tourists onto the island when all the signs in recent weeks pointed towards increased volcanic activity.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 17:03:29 GMT
Terrible for those poor people. Reports saying people were walking inside the crater just before the eruption.
Crazy and negligent that they were allowed to be in the vicinity after the indications of increased activity.
RIP to all involved - I wonder if they will find all the bodies ?
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Post by franklin66 on Dec 9, 2019 17:39:46 GMT
It's a massive issue all over the world, I visited the La Brea Tar pits in the middle of LA and its unnerving to see what's going on and what's around.
Iceland for example would be desperate for tourist money I'm not sure how you minimise risk and maximize profit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 17:59:10 GMT
I went to Sorrento in May 2018 and one of the trips we went on was to Pompeii, and another trip to Herculaneum, both being in the shadow of Vesuvius. Much of Pompeii is still being excavated but Herculaneum was even more sobering in a way as it was much more evident of just how much volcanic ash and lava had been deposited during the eruption in 79 AD.
Vesuvius is still active and our guide said another eruption could occur in the near future as it had last erupted in 1944 and it's natural cycle meant one was "fairly imminent" in the near future. In spite of this many people still go into the crater itself. A little way to the north is Naples but the immediate surrounding area is really densely populated, and a future eruption would cause massive loss of life even with advanced warning of an impending eruption.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Dec 10, 2019 9:34:41 GMT
Volcanoes usually give warning signs before they erupt e.g. series of minor earth tremors and increased emissions of gasses such as SO2 before they erupt allowing authorities to evacuate vulnerable areas. If the N.Z. authorities observed these warning signs they should never have allowed tourists anywhere near the place. They knew White Island was still an active volcanic area and should have reacted accordingly. I have climbed a couple of volcanoes, Vesuvius, which is a doddle and Fogo on the Cape Verde islands which is still active, but gives of warning signs when it is about to erupt.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 10:41:47 GMT
Why the fu k anyone would want to be within 10 mile of an active volcano is beyond me
It's up there with extreme sports like those puddles fuckers with wing suits etc
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Post by yeokel on Dec 10, 2019 11:00:54 GMT
Why the fu k anyone would want to be within 10 mile of an active volcano is beyond me It's up there with extreme sports like those puddles fuckers with wing suits etc An active volcano is passive for much of the time of course. I went up Mount Etna (ooh err missus) a few years ago which is still active, but it was like a pussy cat while we were there and had been for weeks, and was for weeks afterwards except for chucking out a few fireworks from time to time. But they are fascinating places to visit with such unworldly surroundings. Visiting one which is showing serious signs of imminent activity is a bit too high risk in my book, but I suppose you pays your money and you takes your chance. |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 10, 2019 11:04:40 GMT
Volcanoes usually give warning signs before they erupt e.g. series of minor earth tremors and increased emissions of gasses such as SO2 before they erupt allowing authorities to evacuate vulnerable areas. If the N.Z. authorities observed these warning signs they should never have allowed tourists anywhere near the place. They knew White Island was still an active volcanic area and should have reacted accordingly. I have climbed a couple of volcanoes, Vesuvius, which is a doddle and Fogo on the Cape Verde islands which is still active, but gives of warning signs when it is about to erupt. Although the volcano had shown signs of increased activity, they were at a similar level to previous activity where there was no eruption. It is also believed that the eruption was triggered by water getting into a magma chamber rather than an increase in pressure over time. If this is correct, then the heavily monitored site would have given little very little warning over and above the usual background readings. |
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Post by foster on Dec 10, 2019 11:38:53 GMT
Volcanoes usually give warning signs before they erupt e.g. series of minor earth tremors and increased emissions of gasses such as SO2 before they erupt allowing authorities to evacuate vulnerable areas. If the N.Z. authorities observed these warning signs they should never have allowed tourists anywhere near the place. They knew White Island was still an active volcanic area and should have reacted accordingly. I have climbed a couple of volcanoes, Vesuvius, which is a doddle and Fogo on the Cape Verde islands which is still active, but gives of warning signs when it is about to erupt. Although the volcano had shown signs of increased activity, they were at a similar level to previous activity where there was no eruption. It is also believed that the eruption was triggered by water getting into a magma chamber rather than an increase in pressure over time. If this is correct, then the heavily monitored site would have given little very little warning over and above the usual background readings. Apparently it's much harder to detect steam activity (compared to magma/lava). Sudden eruptions can also occur with little (minutes) to no warning. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 12:56:01 GMT
Why the fu k anyone would want to be within 10 mile of an active volcano is beyond me It's up there with extreme sports like those puddles fuckers with wing suits etc An active volcano is passive for much of the time of course. I went up Mount Etna (ooh err missus) a few years ago which is still active, but it was like a pussy cat while we were there and had been for weeks, and was for weeks afterwards except for chucking out a few fireworks from time to time. But they are fascinating places to visit with such unworldly surroundings. Visiting one which is showing serious signs of imminent activity is a bit too high risk in my book, but I suppose you pays your money and you takes your chance. they are all unpredictable tho....no matter what the "experts say" Call me a wuss but I'd rather sit here at home wrapped in bubble wrap wearing my crash helmet |
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Post by yeokel on Dec 10, 2019 12:56:47 GMT
An active volcano is passive for much of the time of course. I went up Mount Etna (ooh err missus) a few years ago which is still active, but it was like a pussy cat while we were there and had been for weeks, and was for weeks afterwards except for chucking out a few fireworks from time to time. But they are fascinating places to visit with such unworldly surroundings. Visiting one which is showing serious signs of imminent activity is a bit too high risk in my book, but I suppose you pays your money and you takes your chance. they are all unpredictable tho....no matter what the "experts say" Call me a wuss but I'd rather sit here at home wrapped in bubble wrap wearing my crash helmet Wuss |
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