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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 7, 2019 13:36:03 GMT
Did exceptionally well with Sorenson, Bego and Butland but it's harsh to blame him for the latters drop in form. Jacks personal ambitions that have failed to happen and off field issues are not AQ's fault. We signed Bego from Pompey and sold him to Chelsea,I'd say that was progress. Sorro signed and did wonders for us when his career liked to be going downhill. Cut the guy some slack FFS. I agree, big part of our success in the prem if you look at how good the keepers were and how they could also just come in. I think a change is good for Stoke and Quy & I think he'll find another coaching job at a decent level.
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Post by nonameface on Dec 7, 2019 13:38:15 GMT
Has he potentially gone to another club rather than been sacked?
If not, then it appears he's paid the price for Butland not recovering to anywhere near the standard he's been before when he was exceptional.
Fingers crossed the new coach gets the best out of him again.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 7, 2019 13:41:12 GMT
Do you rrckon his favourite comedian is Sean Lock?
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 7, 2019 13:46:51 GMT
Nobody at this club, owners included, deserve to have any slack cut. This time next year we could have dropped from 9th in the PL to League One in 4 years. We need new owners, full stop.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 7, 2019 13:54:32 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 7, 2019 14:17:00 GMT
Spinks on the ball as usual🙄
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Post by stokemark on Dec 7, 2019 14:18:03 GMT
Sack the ones that are to blame ffs
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2019 14:19:58 GMT
He failed to make a man out of Haugard. The buck stops with Quy. And Feds has only looked just about ok, because Jack's been so bad. He hasn't really gone out of his way to save anything. Fair enough re Haugaard. But in my opinion Feds stepped up to the plate as cover and is a very competent championship keeper. He was first choice at Reading for 6 seasons including PL and played 26 times for his country at various levels. You could see the confidence he instilled in the defence and his distribution was tons better than butlands. Thought it was poor man management when Delap dropped Feds, when he hadn’t put a foot wrong in the games he played, to bring Butland back after his many calamities. He didn't stop us losing matches. As for reinstating Butland, it's really the choice of a new manager that the slate is wiped clean and his first game is day one of a new period. Past appearances don't matter under that view. It's worked wonders for Diouf, sadly it hasn't really worked for Woods and Butland.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Dec 7, 2019 15:22:31 GMT
I hope he's not just been the fall guy for Butland's obvious mental health issues which have affected his performances.
That said, our goalkeepers have had a long standing problem with saving penalties which goes right back to Begovic. Is it a coincidence that two otherwise excellent keepers (before Butland's mental breakdown) have consistently been unable to get anywhere near to penalties? I know the odds are always against goalkeepers but our record at keeping out penalties over the last 7 or 8 years is far, far below the statistical average.
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Post by innocentbystander on Dec 7, 2019 15:29:51 GMT
Did exceptionally well with Sorenson, Bego and Butland but it's harsh to blame him for the latters drop in form. Jacks personal ambitions that have failed to happen and off field issues are not AQ's fault. We signed Bego from Pompey and sold him to Chelsea,I'd say that was progress. Sorro signed and did wonders for us when his career liked to be going downhill. Cut the guy some slack FFS. And if Quy scouted/motivated Lee Grant then further Hats Off to him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 8, 2019 8:35:45 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Dec 8, 2019 9:31:30 GMT
Probably told them he couldn't polish a turd but the clubs view is flapjack is our #1
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 8, 2019 12:46:25 GMT
Hopefully will encourage Butland to move on. Second goal yesterday was shite keeping, never mind handball.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 8, 2019 13:03:45 GMT
Rouse was working as goalkeeping coach for the Chinese Tapei national team until earlier this year. As a goalkeeper he was associated with Bury and Stockport County before moving into coaching at an early age. He forged his coaching reputation during eight years at Manchester United whilst working with the club’s younger goalkeepers. He later worked for Macclesfield Town and because of an injury crisis ended up making is Football League debut at the age of 30. Why not make him director of football? He has a better CV than boss Hog!
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Post by ratters on Dec 8, 2019 19:17:27 GMT
Hopefully will encourage Butland to move on. Second goal yesterday was shite keeping, never mind handball. Really? Not the free header that he managed to save, and the other man left free and unmarked! Butland was the least of the worries in yesterdays performance and actually kept the score down thanks to an excellent first half save and another decent one
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Post by Timmy on Dec 8, 2019 19:21:15 GMT
Watching the highlights back and butland had a good game. Don't know why he's getting stick for that shower of turd of a defence that's in front of him. Martins Indi on the other hand, what a weak streak of pss this guy is!! Should be flying out to block the shot for the first.
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 8, 2019 20:54:53 GMT
maybe Delap who has little authority WAS TOLD to play Butland from on high in an attempt to put him in the shop window and stem the rapid decline in his transfer value with a view to a possible sale in January. ?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 10, 2019 15:23:00 GMT
Oh hello he’s only been here since last Friday🙄
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Post by Gods on Dec 10, 2019 15:28:46 GMT
I've never heard of him but lets hope he can rouse Butland from his slumber.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 15:31:06 GMT
We've poached him from the Chinese Taipei national team. They lost their last 3 games 0-5, 0-9 and 1-7, but apparently without his intervention they would have all been double figures.
Good times......
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2019 11:46:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2019 12:13:17 GMT
Was Quy partly behind signings of the Huagard and Davies? If so, likely played a role in his demise.
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Post by lordb on Dec 26, 2019 12:54:53 GMT
Anyone else noticed Butland playing OK lately?
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Post by datguy on Dec 26, 2019 12:59:03 GMT
What? Andy Quy? Brentford? Thought that man was so highly respected in the industry he'd have Barcelona after him.
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 26, 2019 14:47:17 GMT
What? Andy Quy? Brentford? Thought that man was so highly respected in the industry he'd have Barcelona after him. Exactly my thoughts, not that sort after all. More BS from the top, hanging on to the average long after due.
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Post by ibby on Dec 26, 2019 15:14:37 GMT
Good luck to him at Brentford.
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Post by skip on Dec 26, 2019 15:57:33 GMT
I hope he's not just been the fall guy for Butland's obvious mental health issues which have affected his performances. That said, our goalkeepers have had a long standing problem with saving penalties which goes right back to Begovic. Is it a coincidence that two otherwise excellent keepers (before Butland's mental breakdown) have consistently been unable to get anywhere near to penalties? I know the odds are always against goalkeepers but our record at keeping out penalties over the last 7 or 8 years is far, far below the statistical average. Thankfully we are much more open about mental wellbeing nowadays than we've been before, but is referring to Butland's drop in form, or confidence, really due to a mental breakdown? That's one hell of a statement to make about someone without evidence.
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Post by lordb on Dec 26, 2019 17:43:32 GMT
I hope he's not just been the fall guy for Butland's obvious mental health issues which have affected his performances. That said, our goalkeepers have had a long standing problem with saving penalties which goes right back to Begovic. Is it a coincidence that two otherwise excellent keepers (before Butland's mental breakdown) have consistently been unable to get anywhere near to penalties? I know the odds are always against goalkeepers but our record at keeping out penalties over the last 7 or 8 years is far, far below the statistical average. Thankfully we are much more open about mental wellbeing nowadays than we've been before, but is referring to Butland's drop in form, or confidence, really due to a mental breakdown? That's one hell of a statement to make about someone without evidence. Think he's referring to a footballing breakdown which is undeniable.
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Post by bhp on Dec 26, 2019 18:47:13 GMT
Good move, some very intelligent people involved with the set up there, one of the best squads in the division also
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