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Post by bathstoke on Nov 19, 2019 18:03:03 GMT
What a surprise, on the day John Caudwell presented himself like The Duke of York, Peter Coates is interviewed over his thoughts on political donations. Came over V well & fully nuanced.
What was puzzling was that he talks quite posh, but when I hear John Coates, he doesn’t. What happened there...
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Post by zerps on Nov 19, 2019 18:23:44 GMT
What a surprise, on the day John Caudwell presented himself like The Duke of York, Peter Coates is interviewed over his thoughts on political donations. Came over V well & fully nuanced. What was puzzling was that he talks quite posh, but when I hear John Coates, he doesn’t. What happened there... Mayfair pad helps |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 18:28:35 GMT
What a surprise, on the day John Caudwell presented himself like The Duke of York, Peter Coates is interviewed over his thoughts on political donations. Came over V well & fully nuanced. What was puzzling was that he talks quite posh, but when I hear John Coates, he doesn’t. What happened there... Hes putting it on |
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 19, 2019 18:31:26 GMT
What a surprise, on the day John Caudwell presented himself like The Duke of York, Peter Coates is interviewed over his thoughts on political donations. Came over V well & fully nuanced. What was puzzling was that he talks quite posh, but when I hear John Coates, he doesn’t. What happened there... Hes putting it on Which one, Peter or John... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 18:36:42 GMT
Which one, Peter or John... 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 18:51:28 GMT
Spent too long with Garth Crooks hasn't he
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Post by murphthesurf on Nov 19, 2019 20:24:27 GMT
Every time I hear Peter Coates speak it sounds glaringly obvious to me that he's had elocution lessons, and although his current 'accent' works to some degree for him for most of the time it definitely doesn't work for all of it - the way he speaks is simply too 'stilted' plus every now & then he'll drop an aitch or some of his words will just come out 'wrong'. I'm sure it's not his natural accent, anyway - he's worked on it.
Of course the guy is free to sound how he chooses to, but I just think it's a pity when people can't just be natural but obviously instead feel that they must try to portray themselves as something they're not, eg., typically, 'posher' - like having a 'phone voice'. Yes, Peter Coates apparently started off in life with very little and was lucky that the career path he chose - betting shops (not really an altruistic route, for the benefit of mankind, you might say) - made him a fat profit and then when Denise came into the picture made a mind-bogglingly enormous profit for the family…….. but suddenly having masses of money doesn't mean that he should automatically start trying to sound as though he was born into a wealthy family, which he clearly was not. And obviously not all wealthy families are what's classed as well-spoken - that's exactly my point.
I can fully admire anyone who has worked hard to be successful in life but, at the same time, no matter how successful anyone might be I don't have much time for them as a person if they try to wipe over their poor beginnings and put on a 'posh' act. I always want to tell them to be true to themselves and remember where they came from.
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Post by murphthesurf on Nov 19, 2019 20:58:24 GMT
Spent too long with Garth Crooks hasn't he Excellent comparison, excellent observation!  I detest Crooks - when he's being interviewed and has had time in advance to think of what he's going to say he always says a 'long' 'a' --- ie. he pronounces 'pass' as 'parrrrrssss'. When he's speaking quickly and hasn't planned his words, his Stoke accent, which he still naturally has and of which he should be proud, comes out and he says 'pass' as rhyming with 'lass' and other such examples. What a classless plonker. (Pronouned 'classless', not 'clarrrrrssless'.) PS: With apologies to our best mate Tel (telfordstoke) whose natural way of speaking is long 'a's following his migrating right up 'ere from right dahn there long ago.  |
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Post by telfordstoke on Nov 20, 2019 17:58:12 GMT
Spent too long with Garth Crooks hasn't he Excellent comparison, excellent observation! I detest Crooks - when he's being interviewed and has had time in advance to think of what he's going to say he always says a 'long' 'a' --- ie. he pronounces 'pass' as 'parrrrrssss'. When he's speaking quickly and hasn't planned his words, his Stoke accent, which he still naturally has and of which he should be proud, comes out and he says 'pass' as rhyming with 'lass' and other such examples. What a classless plonker. (Pronouned 'classless', not 'clarrrrrssless'.) PS: With apologies to our best mate Tel (telfordstoke) whose natural way of speaking is long 'a's following his migrating right up 'ere from right dahn there long ago. Just spotted this one  . I am told I’m posh ish on occasion but for the most part not, lots of dropped aitches etc! Used to drink in the Black Lion In Hanley with a Liverpudlian and will never forget berating him for the fact that “bus hasn’t got a Z in it”, to get the retort “ well mate fuck hasn’t got an A in it either, has it?!” . The joys of dialects lol |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Nov 21, 2019 6:06:47 GMT
Which R4 programme was this? I'd like to hear it.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 21, 2019 6:32:25 GMT
Which R4 programme was this? I'd like to hear it. It was on the PM Program at around 5:15 on Tues |
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Post by tuum on Nov 21, 2019 7:20:18 GMT
Every time I hear Peter Coates speak it sounds glaringly obvious to me that he's had elocution lessons, and although his current 'accent' works to some degree for him for most of the time it definitely doesn't work for all of it - the way he speaks is simply too 'stilted' plus every now & then he'll drop an aitch or some of his words will just come out 'wrong'. I'm sure it's not his natural accent, anyway - he's worked on it. Of course the guy is free to sound how he chooses to, but I just think it's a pity when people can't just be natural but obviously instead feel that they must try to portray themselves as something they're not, eg., typically, 'posher' - like having a 'phone voice'. Yes, Peter Coates apparently started off in life with very little and was lucky that the career path he chose - betting shops (not really an altruistic route, for the benefit of mankind, you might say) - made him a fat profit and then when Denise came into the picture made a mind-bogglingly enormous profit for the family…….. but suddenly having masses of money doesn't mean that he should automatically start trying to sound as though he was born into a wealthy family, which he clearly was not. And obviously not all wealthy families are what's classed as well-spoken - that's exactly my point. I can fully admire anyone who has worked hard to be successful in life but, at the same time, no matter how successful anyone might be I don't have much time for them as a person if they try to wipe over their poor beginnings and put on a 'posh' act. I always want to tell them to be true to themselves and remember where they came from. Peter Coates has spoken openly about this before. He made a conscious decision to take elocution lessons because he felt people were not listening to him, or taking him seriously. In essence, they looked down on him and he felt it was holding him back. I think it stemmed from his National Service days but am not exactly sure.Nothing wrong with that. I daresay Garth Crooks was advised in a similar manner. Peter Coates did not start talking posh after he had loads of money and he has never tried to wipe over his poor beginnings or put on a posh act. I think you are being a bit too harsh on him. |
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 21, 2019 7:28:44 GMT
Every time I hear Peter Coates speak it sounds glaringly obvious to me that he's had elocution lessons, and although his current 'accent' works to some degree for him for most of the time it definitely doesn't work for all of it - the way he speaks is simply too 'stilted' plus every now & then he'll drop an aitch or some of his words will just come out 'wrong'. I'm sure it's not his natural accent, anyway - he's worked on it. Of course the guy is free to sound how he chooses to, but I just think it's a pity when people can't just be natural but obviously instead feel that they must try to portray themselves as something they're not, eg., typically, 'posher' - like having a 'phone voice'. Yes, Peter Coates apparently started off in life with very little and was lucky that the career path he chose - betting shops (not really an altruistic route, for the benefit of mankind, you might say) - made him a fat profit and then when Denise came into the picture made a mind-bogglingly enormous profit for the family…….. but suddenly having masses of money doesn't mean that he should automatically start trying to sound as though he was born into a wealthy family, which he clearly was not. And obviously not all wealthy families are what's classed as well-spoken - that's exactly my point. I can fully admire anyone who has worked hard to be successful in life but, at the same time, no matter how successful anyone might be I don't have much time for them as a person if they try to wipe over their poor beginnings and put on a 'posh' act. I always want to tell them to be true to themselves and remember where they came from. Peter Coates has spoken openly about this before. He made a conscious decision to take elocution lessons because he felt people were not listening to him, or taking him seriously. In essence, they looked down on him and he felt it was holding him back. I think it stemmed from his National Service days but am not exactly sure.Nothing wrong with that. I daresay Garth Crooks was advised in a similar manner. Peter Coates did not start talking posh after he had loads of money and he has never tried to wipe over his poor beginnings or put on a posh act. I think you are being a bit too harsh on him. If Garth Crooks received electrocution lessons, he needs to get his money back... |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 21, 2019 7:52:27 GMT
Peter Coates has spoken openly about this before. He made a conscious decision to take elocution lessons because he felt people were not listening to him, or taking him seriously. In essence, they looked down on him and he felt it was holding him back. I think it stemmed from his National Service days but am not exactly sure.Nothing wrong with that. I daresay Garth Crooks was advised in a similar manner. Peter Coates did not start talking posh after he had loads of money and he has never tried to wipe over his poor beginnings or put on a posh act. I think you are being a bit too harsh on him. If Garth Crooks received electrocution lessons, he needs to get his money back... Electrocution would explain Garths bulgy eyes then 😄 |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Nov 21, 2019 11:48:27 GMT
Which R4 programme was this? I'd like to hear it. It was on the PM Program at around 5:15 on Tues Many thanks, Mr Bath. Very interesting interview. Starts 17 mins in and lasts for about 5 mins. www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000bfhj |
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 21, 2019 11:57:49 GMT
It was on the PM Program at around 5:15 on Tues Many thanks, Mr Bath. Very interesting interview. Starts 17 mins in and lasts for about 5 mins. www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000bfhjHe came over V well. Quite paternal |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Nov 21, 2019 12:14:24 GMT
He came over V well. Quite paternal I agree. I liked what he said and don't know why people think he speaks with a plum in his mouth. I didn't detect any form of superiority whatsoever - feigned or otherwise. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 30, 2021 10:01:30 GMT
Good for her, let's hope it's every penny that she should have paid. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9201119/Britains-biggest-taxpayers-revealed-Bet365-boss-Denise-Coates-tops-list-second-year-row.htmlInteresting that the Mail describes the tax contribution as "eye-watering", (neglecting to mention of course that this contributes towards funding our society as a whole) but by contrast the net worth of the family at £7.166bn is not worth an adjective of any kind Continuing that slow steady drip feed that paying tax is somehow 'bad' and we should all pay as little as we can get away with, without bothering to mention what that might do to society (see America). |
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Post by tuum on Jan 30, 2021 18:37:46 GMT
I think it is commendable that they support the local area and still pay their taxes in the UK. Denise Coates has spoken before about how easy it would be to move the company offshore like most of the other betting companies. The Coates' family clearly feel they want to support S-o-T. I recall interviews with Peter (occasionally Denise) where they have lobbied the government not to impose more stringent regulations on the gambling industry that would force them offshore.
I know some people have a problem with people making vast profits off gambling but at least Bet365 puts a large chunk back into the UK that could so easily be siphoned off into a bank account in the Cayman Islands.
They are very welcome as far as I am concerned and long may they continue to provide employment and large donations to charitable causes for the local area.
People who get upset about a gambling company being top of the tax list should focus their attentions on those companies who make vast profits in the UK but are not on the list.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 30, 2021 20:12:08 GMT
How on earth do you spend 7 billion
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jan 30, 2021 20:43:12 GMT
How on earth do you spend 7 billion Send Tony Scholes down to the shop to get a pint of milk. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 30, 2021 21:02:42 GMT
How on earth do you spend 7 billion Send Tony Scholes down to the shop to get a pint of milk. That will buy a few thousand million pints |
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. I am told I’m posh ish on occasion but for the most part not, lots of dropped aitches etc! Used to drink in the Black Lion In Hanley with a Liverpudlian and will never forget berating him for the fact that “bus hasn’t got a Z in it”, to get the retort “ well mate fuck hasn’t got an A in it either, has it?!” . The joys of dialects lol
