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Post by noustie on Aug 10, 2021 11:24:34 GMT
On the bright side at least he hasn't got to contend with itchy arse and bollocks induced through prefuse sweating like most people would have in these circumstances.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 10, 2021 14:03:13 GMT
This lawsuit has achieved two things only.
One, that the Nonce will go nowhere near this entire case, by which I mean the whole Epstein/Maxwell thing, plus this new lawsuit.
And second, Roberts' chances of having an unfortunate accident have just increased markedly.
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Post by raythesailor on Aug 11, 2021 9:09:06 GMT
I am definitely NOT a Andrew fan but I have to say I have no sympathy for this woman.
She was simply a high class hooker who I am sure knew exactly what she was doing even if she was only 17. The photograph of them together does not show a young girl under stress. She seemed to be very happy to be flown over, first class no doubt, and earning a nice wedge of money.
She and her lawyers are now just trying to jump on another gravy train.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Aug 11, 2021 10:12:32 GMT
I am definitely NOT a Andrew fan but I have to say I have no sympathy for this woman. She was simply a high class hooker who I am sure knew exactly what she was doing even if she was only 17. The photograph of them together does not show a young girl under stress. She seemed to be very happy to be flown over, first class no doubt, and earning a nice wedge of money. She and her lawyers are now just trying to jump on another gravy train. Fair point, I've never seen an abused person being apparently happy.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 11, 2021 10:21:34 GMT
I am definitely NOT a Andrew fan but I have to say I have no sympathy for this woman. She was simply a high class hooker who I am sure knew exactly what she was doing even if she was only 17. The photograph of them together does not show a young girl under stress. She seemed to be very happy to be flown over, first class no doubt, and earning a nice wedge of money. She and her lawyers are now just trying to jump on another gravy train. Thats a pretty terrible take, from memory of a program I watched they were recruited to provide massages and offered hundreds of dollars to do this only once there did the services expected become different as for the photo that is before anything happened with Andrew so regardless of anything else a young girl meeting someone famous or royalty would quite likely have a photo taken. I don't doubt money is the motivation if the dirty bastards did what is alleged to hundreds of young girls I hope it bankrupts them.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Aug 11, 2021 11:28:55 GMT
I am definitely NOT a Andrew fan but I have to say I have no sympathy for this woman. She was simply a high class hooker who I am sure knew exactly what she was doing even if she was only 17. The photograph of them together does not show a young girl under stress. She seemed to be very happy to be flown over, first class no doubt, and earning a nice wedge of money. She and her lawyers are now just trying to jump on another gravy train. Have you submitted your evidence about her not looking "under stress" to the defence team, it could be the evidence that swings the case. Or it could be a judgement that means fuck all as it is based on a snapshot of a single split second in time. We'll let the jury decide.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 11, 2021 11:33:20 GMT
I am definitely NOT a Andrew fan but I have to say I have no sympathy for this woman. She was simply a high class hooker who I am sure knew exactly what she was doing even if she was only 17. The photograph of them together does not show a young girl under stress. She seemed to be very happy to be flown over, first class no doubt, and earning a nice wedge of money. She and her lawyers are now just trying to jump on another gravy train. Have you submitted your evidence about her not looking "under stress" to the defence team, it could be the evidence that swings the case. Or it could be a judgement that means fuck all as it is based on a snapshot of a single split second in time. We'll let the jury decide. “She was gagging for it”, I don’t believe, is a particularly effective defence. Although, that might be the only defence Randy Andy might be able to muster.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 11, 2021 18:56:42 GMT
Have you submitted your evidence about her not looking "under stress" to the defence team, it could be the evidence that swings the case. Or it could be a judgement that means fuck all as it is based on a snapshot of a single split second in time. We'll let the jury decide. “She was gagging for it”, I don’t believe, is a particularly effective defence. Although, that might be the only defence Randy Andy might be able to muster. His current defence is to run and hide behind his Mother at the holiday castle. As Jesse Ventura would say, "He's dug in like an Alabama tick".
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 11, 2021 21:09:50 GMT
I am definitely NOT a Andrew fan but I have to say I have no sympathy for this woman. She was simply a high class hooker who I am sure knew exactly what she was doing even if she was only 17. The photograph of them together does not show a young girl under stress. She seemed to be very happy to be flown over, first class no doubt, and earning a nice wedge of money. She and her lawyers are now just trying to jump on another gravy train. Thats a pretty terrible take, from memory of a program I watched they were recruited to provide massages and offered hundreds of dollars to do this only once there did the services expected become different as for the photo that is before anything happened with Andrew so regardless of anything else a young girl meeting someone famous or royalty would quite likely have a photo taken. I don't doubt money is the motivation if the dirty bastards did what is alleged to hundreds of young girls I hope it bankrupts them. Out of interest who pays if Andrew ends up having to fork out millions? The British taxpayer? Or will Mummy have to sell Sandringham to that nice Mr Abramovic?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 22:15:07 GMT
I am definitely NOT a Andrew fan but I have to say I have no sympathy for this woman. She was simply a high class hooker who I am sure knew exactly what she was doing even if she was only 17. The photograph of them together does not show a young girl under stress. She seemed to be very happy to be flown over, first class no doubt, and earning a nice wedge of money. She and her lawyers are now just trying to jump on another gravy train. Have you submitted your evidence about her not looking "under stress" to the defence team, it could be the evidence that swings the case. Or it could be a judgement that means fuck all as it is based on a snapshot of a single split second in time. We'll let the jury decide. Not evidence of course but a valid point . Why would you agree to be a personal aid to someone for instance or travel the World with them? It doesn't mean 'fuck all' ,it's something that and defence will jump straight on . Lysette Anthony had a reputation of trying to sleep her way to the top( could all be gossip) but she was one who joined the Epstein accusers after her career never took off. Tippi Hedren was one who used Hitchcock apparently to get her role in 'The Birds'. Not sticking up for anyone but raythesailor makes a very valid point when it come to accepting the goods then playing the victim. They'll go for her on the stand if it ever happens.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Aug 12, 2021 7:09:27 GMT
Have you submitted your evidence about her not looking "under stress" to the defence team, it could be the evidence that swings the case. Or it could be a judgement that means fuck all as it is based on a snapshot of a single split second in time. We'll let the jury decide. Not evidence of course but a valid point . Why would you agree to be a personal aid to someone for instance or travel the World with them? It doesn't mean 'fuck all' ,it's something that and defence will jump straight on . Lysette Anthony had a reputation of trying to sleep her way to the top( could all be gossip) but she was one who joined the Epstein accusers after her career never took off. Tippi Hedren was one who used Hitchcock apparently to get her role in 'The Birds'. Not sticking up for anyone but raythesailor makes a very valid point when it come to accepting the goods then playing the victim. They'll go for her on the stand if it ever happens. I was mainly talking about the judgement of her not looking stressed in the photo - it counts for fuck all what someone looks like for a split second in a photo. Is it possible you'd agree to be a personal aid to someone because you thought the job involved being a personal aid, and not being sexually abused?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 15, 2021 11:34:00 GMT
Mum'll fix it....
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 12, 2021 8:44:51 GMT
I see his latest trick is to make every effort to hide so that legal papers can't be served on him.
What happened to his being "willing to help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations if required"?
Wonder what he's frightened of being revealed by doing so?
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Post by andystokey on Sept 12, 2021 8:53:14 GMT
I see his latest trick is to make every effort to hide so that legal papers can't be served on him. What happened to his being "willing to help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations if required"? Wonder what he's frightened of being revealed by doing so? If he's innocent then his behaviour has just been a cu*tish to any alleged victims. The latest ridiculous argument is further proof is been handled atrociously. I've wracked my brain and I just can't remember fucking her in the home of my paedophile friend.
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 12, 2021 9:06:27 GMT
I am definitely NOT a Andrew fan but I have to say I have no sympathy for this woman. She was simply a high class hooker who I am sure knew exactly what she was doing even if she was only 17. The photograph of them together does not show a young girl under stress. She seemed to be very happy to be flown over, first class no doubt, and earning a nice wedge of money. She and her lawyers are now just trying to jump on another gravy train. Jesus christ. There's something wrong with you.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 12, 2021 9:07:10 GMT
I think if there was a public vote on what to do with him, there’d be a record turnout and 90% in favour of locking him up and throwing away the key.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 12, 2021 9:49:21 GMT
I think if there was a public vote on what to do with him, there’d be a record turnout and 90% in favour of locking him up and throwing away the key. There’s plenty of people lynched by the mob who may well of been innocent I shall wait until such time as the evidence is presented to make my mind up of any level of guilt
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 12, 2021 9:55:58 GMT
I think if there was a public vote on what to do with him, there’d be a record turnout and 90% in favour of locking him up and throwing away the key. There’s plenty of people lynched by the mob who may well of been innocent I shall wait until such time as the evidence is presented to make my mind up of any level of guilt There’s plenty of evidence.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 12, 2021 10:04:51 GMT
There’s plenty of people lynched by the mob who may well of been innocent I shall wait until such time as the evidence is presented to make my mind up of any level of guilt There’s plenty of evidence. There’s plenty of allegations Assumptions And innuendos Whether that amounts to evidence of guilt will be decided by A court of law
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 12, 2021 10:08:13 GMT
There’s plenty of evidence. There’s plenty of allegations Assumptions And innuendos Whether that amounts to evidence of guilt will be decided by A court of law I doubt that very much!
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 12, 2021 10:32:37 GMT
There’s plenty of evidence. There’s plenty of allegations Assumptions And innuendos Whether that amounts to evidence of guilt will be decided by A court of law Whys he hiding then do you think?
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 12, 2021 10:37:29 GMT
There’s plenty of allegations Assumptions And innuendos Whether that amounts to evidence of guilt will be decided by A court of law I doubt that very much! So do I Do I think he’s a bit of a wrong un as they say in my part of the country yes But he wouldn’t be the first high profile person to be accused of particular offences and was innocent
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 12, 2021 10:55:38 GMT
There’s plenty of allegations Assumptions And innuendos Whether that amounts to evidence of guilt will be decided by A court of law Whys he hiding then do you think? Probably to avoid being lynched by the mob
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Post by lordb on Sept 12, 2021 11:24:47 GMT
There’s plenty of allegations Assumptions And innuendos Whether that amounts to evidence of guilt will be decided by A court of law I doubt that very much! The idea that a member of the Royal family could be put in trial, at least on this country, is ludicrous The abdicated King gave facts and encouragement to the Nazis during the Blitz to continue their bombing, this cost thousands of lives This was known so what did we do? Imprison him? Hang him? No we paid for a life in luxurious exile for him and pretended it didn't happen. There is absolutely no way Andrew will end up in a British court
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 12, 2021 11:31:00 GMT
The idea that a member of the Royal family could be put in trial, at least on this country, is ludicrous The abdicated King gave facts and encouragement to the Nazis during the Blitz to continue their bombing, this cost thousands of lives This was known so what did we do? Imprison him? Hang him? No we paid for a life in luxurious exile for him and pretended it didn't happen. There is absolutely no way Andrew will end up in a British court He won't end up in a court, full stop, British or anywhere else. Anyone with nothing to hide and a commitment to "being willing to help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations if required" wouldn't be playing these games with legal proceedings in an effort to have the serving of the papers declared null and void, so he can afford any further scrutiny. I'd put quite a bit of money on a sizeable majority of people in this country being quite happy to see him left in peace regardless of anything that he has done, simply because he's a member of the royal family. People take a lot of comfort in knowing the hierarchy of this country is largely untouchable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 12:47:24 GMT
There’s plenty of allegations Assumptions And innuendos Whether that amounts to evidence of guilt will be decided by A court of law Whys he hiding then do you think? The world's media after him?
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 12, 2021 14:19:07 GMT
The idea that a member of the Royal family could be put in trial, at least on this country, is ludicrous The abdicated King gave facts and encouragement to the Nazis during the Blitz to continue their bombing, this cost thousands of lives This was known so what did we do? Imprison him? Hang him? No we paid for a life in luxurious exile for him and pretended it didn't happen. There is absolutely no way Andrew will end up in a British court He won't end up in a court, full stop, British or anywhere else. Anyone with nothing to hide and a commitment to "being willing to help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations if required" wouldn't be playing these games with legal proceedings in an effort to have the serving of the papers declared null and void, so he can afford any further scrutiny. I'd put quite a bit of money on a sizeable majority of people in this country being quite happy to see him left in peace regardless of anything that he has done, simply because he's a member of the royal family. People take a lot of comfort in knowing the hierarchy of this country is largely untouchable. I think alot of the time people don't want to believe that these people would do something untoward, because it might shake foundations of stability and a traditional hierarchical structure that they somehow (bizarrely) feel safe with. I've always been uneasy about the level of deference that still exists in this country towards those who assume inherited power, and let's not pretend ourselves, these people do yield great power.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 12, 2021 14:28:46 GMT
Even if he is guilty,I can't see him doing time,in this country or the USA.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 12, 2021 15:04:20 GMT
The idea that a member of the Royal family could be put in trial, at least on this country, is ludicrous The abdicated King gave facts and encouragement to the Nazis during the Blitz to continue their bombing, this cost thousands of lives This was known so what did we do? Imprison him? Hang him? No we paid for a life in luxurious exile for him and pretended it didn't happen. There is absolutely no way Andrew will end up in a British court If he were to incriminate himself (which is almost certainly why he's not doing his upmost to cooperate), then the potential for The Queen vs Andrew, Duke of York would be intersting to say the least!
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Post by andystokey on Sept 12, 2021 17:36:54 GMT
Even if he is guilty,I can't see him doing time,in this country or the USA. Isn't it a civil case? I don't think he can do time, most are settled out of court, perhaps an apology and just pay some compo is the most she can hope for.
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