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Post by zerps on Nov 14, 2019 20:31:55 GMT
Jones didn’t immediately or ever hate the fans? So managers are to be gauged on their love factor for the fans?
Good grief ....
Immediately, yes. If you start hating the fans pre season then you’re instantly on borrowed time. Not rocket science is it?
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Post by zerps on Nov 14, 2019 20:33:14 GMT
Jones didn’t immediately or ever hate the fans? I doubt Rowett did. He ultimately made ill advised comments that probably sealed his fate but Jones wasn't immune from coming out with shite after the matches either Rowett isolated the fans in his first pre season. And did fuck all to redeem himself. Bye Rowett.
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Post by Harpoon Louie on Nov 14, 2019 20:35:25 GMT
we head hunted Jones so you can't really call him a snake oil salesman, he tried his best but just wasn't good enough, probably needed a few more seasons at a smaller club with less expectation on him. Yes he talked a lot of bollocks at times but don't all managers ? wrong man at the wrong time, he might do ok elsewhere. Taunton Town? He should be so lucky. The Peacocks play decent football and actually win games, unlike the Welsh charlatan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 20:37:59 GMT
He should be so lucky. The Peacocks play decent football and actually win games, unlike the Welsh charlatan. North Curry Arthritic then.....
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Post by zerps on Nov 14, 2019 20:38:30 GMT
Plenty of our fans seem to be going through the menopause together.
We are Stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 20:39:55 GMT
Plenty of our fans seem to be going through the menopause together. We are Stoke. Well there is something dreadfully wrong with some of em.
Supporting and making excuses for Mad Nath.
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 14, 2019 20:49:32 GMT
Some people must be really missing Jones. What is the point of this thread? Didn't we spend enough time hurling insults while he was here? Yes he made mistakes but he tried his best and failed not through any malice to the club or lack of effort so give it a rest please.
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Post by zerps on Nov 14, 2019 20:50:22 GMT
Plenty of our fans seem to be going through the menopause together. We are Stoke. Well there is something dreadfully wrong with some of em.
Supporting and making excuses for Mad Nath.
I suppose I’d better tell you. We sacked him 2 weeks ago 👍
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 14, 2019 20:50:32 GMT
I doubt Rowett did. He ultimately made ill advised comments that probably sealed his fate but Jones wasn't immune from coming out with shite after the matches either Rowett isolated the fans in his first pre season. And did fuck all to redeem himself. Bye Rowett. Rowett was probably the most objectionable manager Stoke have ever employed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 20:52:30 GMT
Some people must be really missing Jones. What is the point of this thread? Didn't we spend enough time hurling insults while he was here? Yes he made mistakes but he tried his best and failed not through any malice to the club or lack of effort so give it a rest please. Has he told Peter "Look Peter, i really made an arse of managing Stoke. I didn't mean to do it, i did my best. Please stop paying my salary, I don't deserve it"?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 20:53:23 GMT
Well there is something dreadfully wrong with some of em.
Supporting and making excuses for Mad Nath.
I suppose I’d better tell you. We sacked him 2 weeks ago 👍 We sacked Poolis fucking years ago - doesn't shut some people up though does it?
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Post by zerps on Nov 14, 2019 20:55:37 GMT
I suppose I’d better tell you. We sacked him 2 weeks ago 👍 We sacked Poolis fucking years ago - doesn't shut some people up though does it? So the Pulis thing annoys you but you’re trying to turn Jones into the new Pulis? Smashing.
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 14, 2019 21:01:37 GMT
Some people must be really missing Jones. What is the point of this thread? Didn't we spend enough time hurling insults while he was here? Yes he made mistakes but he tried his best and failed not through any malice to the club or lack of effort so give it a rest please. Has he told Peter "Look Peter, i really made an arse of managing Stoke. I didn't mean to do it, i did my best. Please stop paying my salary, I don't deserve it"? Is that what you'd do if you felt you couldn't do your job? I'm sure he felt things would turn and it's very difficult to explain how we could go from Swansea and Fulham to lose the next three. That wasn't Jones's fault.
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Post by waffles on Nov 14, 2019 21:38:33 GMT
Rowett isolated the fans in his first pre season. And did fuck all to redeem himself. Bye Rowett. Rowett was probably the most objectionable manager Stoke have ever employed. No that was Pulis
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 14, 2019 21:58:44 GMT
Some people must be really missing Jones. What is the point of this thread? Didn't we spend enough time hurling insults while he was here? Yes he made mistakes but he tried his best and failed not through any malice to the club or lack of effort so give it a rest please. Has he told Peter "Look Peter, i really made an arse of managing Stoke. I didn't mean to do it, i did my best. Please stop paying my salary, I don't deserve it"? Is that what you would have done?
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Post by stokefc on Nov 14, 2019 22:01:28 GMT
i,ve got nowt against Nath i just thought he was a wank manager
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 14, 2019 23:32:29 GMT
A classless post title which reflects badly on SCFC supporters. A failure yes, but not for the want of trying.
Was he good enough, wrong time, wrong place etc. all questions that may be answered in the fullness of time. Until then show a modicum of respect for his work ethic and genuine desire to succeeed.
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 14, 2019 23:39:02 GMT
We all wanted him to do well, and we could all see he was trying his very, very best. In the end though, with the advantage of hindsight, he was bloody dreadful.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 15, 2019 0:22:23 GMT
The worst Stoke manager ever. And that's bastard that. No debate, no to and fro, the job he did, with all its undoubted challenges, was fucking disastrous. His chest beating antics on the rare as rockin' hoss shit wins we had still make me crawl up my own arse.
The bloke was a total fucking clown.
I don't wish him anything in his future ventures, no ill will or goodwill but he probably beats Ball and Kamara in the list of our worst managers ever and is by far the biggest arsehole in that trio.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 0:47:11 GMT
We all wanted him to do well, and we could all see he was trying his very, very best. In the end though, with the advantage of hindsight, he was bloody dreadful. I agree. he did most certainly try his very very very very very, best.
Shame really ..
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Post by hyaduck on Nov 15, 2019 0:50:49 GMT
We all wanted him to do well, and we could all see he was trying his very, very best. In the end though, with the advantage of hindsight, he was bloody dreadful. I agree. he did most certainly try his very very very very very, best.
Shame really ..
Stop taking the piss out of NJ, he tried but wasn't to be.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 0:51:56 GMT
I agree. he did most certainly try his very very very very very, best.
Shame really ..
Stop taking the piss out of NJ, he tried but wasn't to be. he is still getting paid .....
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Post by hyaduck on Nov 15, 2019 0:56:39 GMT
Not his fault though, the board agreed a contract so he is entitled
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 0:57:57 GMT
Not his fault though, the board agreed a contract so he is entitled ..entitled to be slagged off for the next 200 years ....
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Post by hyaduck on Nov 15, 2019 4:30:19 GMT
Bollocks, not entirely his fault, he should take a bulk of the blame but not all
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Post by zerps on Nov 15, 2019 6:46:58 GMT
Not his fault though, the board agreed a contract so he is entitled ..entitled to be slagged off for the next 200 years .... Grow up.
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 15, 2019 7:03:31 GMT
You're implying he knowingly fucked us over for his own gain, I don't get that vibe at all. He's fucking useless regardless. Mr yyy, No I don't . I really believe he actually believed in his personal snake oil product . The best con men are the ones who believe their own hype, believe their oil is the elixir and believe they are right in their own rightness. He was , sadly, a complete con man who was fucking clueless and useless GD All good salesmen believe in their product,doesn't mean they are conmen.Deluded maybe but I don't think he set out to deceive.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 7:07:20 GMT
Has he told Peter "Look Peter, i really made an arse of managing Stoke. I didn't mean to do it, i did my best. Please stop paying my salary, I don't deserve it"? Is that what you'd do if you felt you couldn't do your job? I'm sure he felt things would turn and it's very difficult to explain how we could go from Swansea and Fulham to lose the next three. That wasn't Jones's fault. Apparently he should have thrown in the towel instead of trying to fix it
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 15, 2019 7:22:31 GMT
The worst Stoke manager ever. And that's bastard that. No debate, no to and fro, the job he did, with all its undoubted challenges, was fucking disastrous. His chest beating antics on the rare as rockin' hoss shit wins we had still make me crawl up my own arse. The bloke was a total fucking clown. I don't wish him anything in his future ventures, no ill will or goodwill but he probably beats Ball and Kamara in the list of our worst managers ever and is by far the biggest arsehole in that trio. I'm with you on all that except the biggest arsehole in that trio has to be Kamara. It's common knowledge he acted like a twat with people associated with the club.
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Post by Godo on Nov 15, 2019 7:51:28 GMT
Long before the end it was obvious that Jones was out of his depth. Who knows how well O'Neill will do but as a solid professional manager he organised the team and made the tactical change needed within 24 HOURS!!
It will be really interesting to see how well Jones does in his next job.
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