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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 13:17:26 GMT
So given that we have no-one else for this position, with the exception of Ince, could this be our only option for a while?
Edwards best attribute is his crossing, would a pairing of him and Smith work and help add energy and solidity on the right flank?
Not likely a long term solution but could I it be any worse than having Ince there?
This is assuming we play a flat 4-4-2 of course.
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Post by silverdollar on Nov 9, 2019 13:26:52 GMT
So given that we have no-one else for this position, with the exception of Ince, could this be our only option for a while? Edwards best attribute is his crossing, would a pairing of him and Smith work and help add energy and solidity on the right flank? Not likely a long term solution but could I it be any worse than having Ince there? This is assuming we play a flat 4-4-2 of course. On what I have seen the words solidity and Smith do not go together. Not a bad shout about Edwards for a try but I'd go with Carter Vickers at RB. Best of a weak lot. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 13:27:08 GMT
Would be pleased with that.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 9, 2019 13:32:15 GMT
I've been banging on about this for ages. Edwards would make belter of a right winger.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 9, 2019 13:39:14 GMT
So given that we have no-one else for this position, with the exception of Ince, could this be our only option for a while? Edwards best attribute is his crossing, would a pairing of him and Smith work and help add energy and solidity on the right flank? Not likely a long term solution but could I it be any worse than having Ince there? This is assuming we play a flat 4-4-2 of course. Apart from the fact hes really quite slow and doesn't have a single trick, it's a great idea  |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 9, 2019 13:39:49 GMT
I've been banging on about this for ages. Edwards would make belter of a right winger. What attributes does he have that makes you think that? |
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2019 13:44:00 GMT
I've been banging on about this for ages. Edwards would make belter of a right winger. What attributes does he have that makes you think that? He takes people on, he can beat then too and he gets crosses in. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 13:46:10 GMT
So given that we have no-one else for this position, with the exception of Ince, could this be our only option for a while? Edwards best attribute is his crossing, would a pairing of him and Smith work and help add energy and solidity on the right flank? Not likely a long term solution but could I it be any worse than having Ince there? This is assuming we play a flat 4-4-2 of course. Apart from the fact hes really quite slow and doesn't have a single trick, it's a great idea Well he’s not ‘slow’, I would say he was mid-paced personally. I also stated right mid not right wing. He needs to be able to put a cross in and be good in possession, which he can and is. I’m also not saying it’s a great long term solution, but it may well be more fruitful than Ince, who has done nothing since he arrived. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 13:48:21 GMT
Or just don't play 442.
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2019 13:52:32 GMT
Apart from the fact hes really quite slow and doesn't have a single trick, it's a great idea Well he’s not ‘slow’, I would say he was mid-paced personally. I also stated right mid not right wing. He needs to be able to put a cross in and be good in possession, which he can and is. I’m also not saying it’s a great long term solution, but it may well be more fruitful than Ince, who has done nothing since he arrived. It's a short term solution that might just work. Damning indictment of Ince. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 13:55:21 GMT
Which is reasonable all but for the fact that we don’t have the quality of actual winger for a 4-3-3 for 4-2-3-1, with our most natural winger out to Bolton. We also have a pretty poor full back pairing and so any formation like 5-3-2, as seen on Monday and already before that this season, is also awful. Regardless of formation we chose, we will likely have to play a formation that doesn’t suit all players, or one that is using players that are woefully out of sorts |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 9, 2019 13:56:00 GMT
Could it be any worse, yes it very clearly could be, idiotic idea.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 13:57:02 GMT
What attributes does he have that makes you think that? He takes people on, he can beat then too and he gets crosses in. When does he take people on and beat them ? His crossing is very hit and miss too |
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Post by thicknthin on Nov 9, 2019 13:59:58 GMT
Just emphasises what a dearth of options we have out wide when this is even discussed, appalling by the last 2 managers given what we have spent,
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 9, 2019 14:00:40 GMT
He takes people on, he can beat then too and he gets crosses in. When does he take people on and beat them ? His crossing is very hit and miss too I can't remember him go past anyone this season, he doesn't really have the pace or the skill for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 14:01:21 GMT
When does he take people on and beat them ? His crossing is very hit and miss too I can't remember him go past anyone this season, he doesn't really have the pace or the skill for it. Exactly |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 9, 2019 14:30:32 GMT
What attributes does he have that makes you think that? He takes people on, he can beat then too and he gets crosses in. Yeah, that. |
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Nov 9, 2019 19:29:17 GMT
So given that we have no-one else for this position, with the exception of Ince, could this be our only option for a while? Edwards best attribute is his crossing, would a pairing of him and Smith work and help add energy and solidity on the right flank? Not likely a long term solution but could I it be any worse than having Ince there? This is assuming we play a flat 4-4-2 of course. Yes, O’Neill has picked a winning formation today, so let’s rip it up and start fucking about with it and shove players into unfamiliar positions. As I’ve said many times before, 4-3-3 is the ideal formation for us, as the 3 in midfield enables us to dominate this area and the two wide attackers give us width. Thankfully O’Neill seems to recognise this, unlike some of our fans. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 9, 2019 19:35:19 GMT
So given that we have no-one else for this position, with the exception of Ince, could this be our only option for a while? Edwards best attribute is his crossing, would a pairing of him and Smith work and help add energy and solidity on the right flank? Not likely a long term solution but could I it be any worse than having Ince there? This is assuming we play a flat 4-4-2 of course. In my opinion he hasn't got the pace nor the skills to play there.  |
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 9, 2019 19:40:58 GMT
 10 seconds after we win a game where the manager is praised for playing players in their position and having a more balanced side, we're here suggesting he plays people out of position? No thanks, I'm going to ask for more of the same.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Nov 9, 2019 20:12:41 GMT
So given that we have no-one else for this position, with the exception of Ince, could this be our only option for a while? Edwards best attribute is his crossing, would a pairing of him and Smith work and help add energy and solidity on the right flank? Not likely a long term solution but could I it be any worse than having Ince there? This is assuming we play a flat 4-4-2 of course. Apart from the fact hes really quite slow and doesn't have a single trick, it's a great idea This he is awful one on one attacking and defending. Ince and Diouf much better options and Clucas or McClean next in line until Verlinden returns |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 20:16:45 GMT
So given that we have no-one else for this position, with the exception of Ince, could this be our only option for a while? Edwards best attribute is his crossing, would a pairing of him and Smith work and help add energy and solidity on the right flank? Not likely a long term solution but could I it be any worse than having Ince there? This is assuming we play a flat 4-4-2 of course. Yes, O’Neill has picked a winning formation today, so let’s rip it up and start fucking about with it and shove players into unfamiliar positions. As I’ve said many times before, 4-3-3 is the ideal formation for us, as the 3 in midfield enables us to dominate this area and the two wide attackers give us width. Thankfully O’Neill seems to recognise this, unlike some of our fans. That 433, especially with the same 3 in midfield as today, doesn't work against defensive teams, as Rowett found. In fact, the game today was very similar to one of the better Rowett-era games tbh. I'm happy with it away, but at home I'd be hoping for a 4231 at the very least, or hopefully something more attacking than that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 20:22:17 GMT
10 seconds after we win a game where the manager is praised for playing players in their position and having a more balanced side, we're here suggesting he plays people out of position? No thanks, I'm going to ask for more of the same. The OP started this thread before the match..... stupid suggestion all the same |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 9, 2019 20:36:33 GMT
No. If you're going to do that recall Bauer because he'd be much better at it.
I don't think 442 is the way forward though.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 9, 2019 20:52:33 GMT
Ahhh the old "he's slow" comment is coming out again.. Anyone remember a certain Liam Lawrence on the wing? Great player but in a foot race I would've fancied my chances against him.
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2019 21:02:02 GMT
He takes people on, he can beat then too and he gets crosses in. When does he take people on and beat them ? His crossing is very hit and miss too Not lately tis true He 100% is quite capable of beating a man,on the outside,and getting a cross in. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 21:52:19 GMT
Talk about square pegs again.... he’s a right back! That’s his position.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 22:17:13 GMT
Talk about square pegs again.... he’s a right back! That’s his position. No. Always played CM CDM RM until Hughes turned him into a right full-back. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 22:19:33 GMT
Talk about square pegs again.... he’s a right back! That’s his position. No. Always played CM CDM RM until Hughes turned him into a right full-back. I don’t see any attributes in a midfielder. He’s what I’d call an old fashioned right back. Will do well overlapping his winger and putting a ball in. He’s not got the brains to play midfield. He’s far too slow with his decision making |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 22:25:09 GMT
No. Always played CM CDM RM until Hughes turned him into a right full-back. I don’t see any attributes in a midfielder. He’s what I’d call an old fashioned right back. Will do well overlapping his winger and putting a ball in. He’s not got the brains to play midfield. He’s far too slow with his decision making Yeah, I just don't think he's that slow. Said it before but I don't think hes any sort of right/full/ing/centre-back but definitely not what NJ was trying to get him to do. I'd be happy with him doing what Woods was doing today, his passing is excellent. He's looked rushed at times in the past two years and he's still got a fair bit of developing to do but yeah I'd be happy with him doing that. |
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