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Post by anguspants on Nov 6, 2019 14:10:09 GMT
I have been eagerly watching the SentiVale's website since Friday for news of who the new Messiah is going to be. All there has been is speculation about this, that and the other. It's embarrassing. All these names being put forward and no end result. Quite clearly no one with any sense wants to take on this poisoned chalice, well no-one who wants to keep their reputation intact. Whatever has gone wrong at this club has been going wrong for a long time. I reckon it started with the Hughes Era, bringing in the big names Arnoutovic, Shaqiri, etc, who, whilst they were clearly very talented footballers, they brought a toxicity into the club that has spread like a cancer. It is not going to be a quick fix. I think there will be more pain before we see an improvement, even a relegation, which breaks my heart to even think about.
Many years ago when Charlton Athletic were in the Premiership managed by Alan Corbishley, they sacked him because they were no longer satisfied with mid-lower table finishes. I cannot recall who they brought in to replace him, but look what happened to them. When Stoke dispensed with the services of one Tony Pulis, for similar reasons I began to feel uneasy. Look what has happened to Stoke.
There is the old adage: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
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Post by lstokie on Nov 6, 2019 14:13:15 GMT
Cheers for that Anguspants
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Post by danceswithclams on Nov 6, 2019 14:14:34 GMT
Exactly mate.
We should have kept Pulis until his dying breath and when he finally did pop his clogs, disbanded the club because there's no way Stoke City could have any future without him.
Jesus Hates Christ.
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Post by werrington on Nov 6, 2019 14:26:40 GMT
I have been eagerly watching the SentiVale's website since Friday for news of who the new Messiah is going to be. All there has been is speculation about this, that and the other. It's embarrassing. All these names being put forward and no end result. Quite clearly no one with any sense wants to take on this poisoned chalice, well no-one who wants to keep their reputation intact. Whatever has gone wrong at this club has been going wrong for a long time. I reckon it started with the Hughes Era, bringing in the big names Arnoutovic, Shaqiri, etc, who, whilst they were clearly very talented footballers, they brought a toxicity into the club that has spread like a cancer. It is not going to be a quick fix. I think there will be more pain before we see an improvement, even a relegation, which breaks my heart to even think about. Many years ago when Charlton Athletic were in the Premiership managed by Alan Corbishley, they sacked him because they were no longer satisfied with mid-lower table finishes. I cannot recall who they brought in to replace him, but look what happened to them. When Stoke dispensed with the services of one Tony Pulis, for similar reasons I began to feel uneasy. Look what has happened to Stoke. There is the old adage: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I’d get your facts right about Curbishleys departure |
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 6, 2019 14:31:36 GMT
There is the old adage: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". It was broke. We were in steady decline. We did fix it. We then failed to fix the next (quicker) decline under Hughes after he had a couple of good years. |
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Post by Davef on Nov 6, 2019 14:31:52 GMT
I have been eagerly watching the SentiVale's website since Friday for news of who the new Messiah is going to be. All there has been is speculation about this, that and the other. It's embarrassing. All these names being put forward and no end result. Quite clearly no one with any sense wants to take on this poisoned chalice, well no-one who wants to keep their reputation intact. Whatever has gone wrong at this club has been going wrong for a long time. I reckon it started with the Hughes Era, bringing in the big names Arnoutovic, Shaqiri, etc, who, whilst they were clearly very talented footballers, they brought a toxicity into the club that has spread like a cancer. It is not going to be a quick fix. I think there will be more pain before we see an improvement, even a relegation, which breaks my heart to even think about. Many years ago when Charlton Athletic were in the Premiership managed by Alan Corbishley, they sacked him because they were no longer satisfied with mid-lower table finishes. I cannot recall who they brought in to replace him, but look what happened to them. When Stoke dispensed with the services of one Tony Pulis, for similar reasons I began to feel uneasy. Look what has happened to Stoke. There is the old adage: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I’d get your facts right about Curbishleys departure Why bother checking facts when you just come on to a message board freely and spout rubbish? |
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Nov 6, 2019 14:34:05 GMT
I have been eagerly watching the SentiVale's website since Friday for news of who the new Messiah is going to be. All there has been is speculation about this, that and the other. It's embarrassing. All these names being put forward and no end result. Quite clearly no one with any sense wants to take on this poisoned chalice, well no-one who wants to keep their reputation intact. Whatever has gone wrong at this club has been going wrong for a long time. I reckon it started with the Hughes Era, bringing in the big names Arnoutovic, Shaqiri, etc, who, whilst they were clearly very talented footballers, they brought a toxicity into the club that has spread like a cancer. It is not going to be a quick fix. I think there will be more pain before we see an improvement, even a relegation, which breaks my heart to even think about. Many years ago when Charlton Athletic were in the Premiership managed by Alan Corbishley, they sacked him because they were no longer satisfied with mid-lower table finishes. I cannot recall who they brought in to replace him, but look what happened to them. When Stoke dispensed with the services of one Tony Pulis, for similar reasons I began to feel uneasy. Look what has happened to Stoke. There is the old adage: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Look Debs,I know you're probably getting a touch exasperated having him around the house all day long,but we really can't help you,you need to email Peter Coates....😉 |
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Nov 6, 2019 14:35:44 GMT
I have been eagerly watching the SentiVale's website since Friday for news of who the new Messiah is going to be. All there has been is speculation about this, that and the other. It's embarrassing. All these names being put forward and no end result. Quite clearly no one with any sense wants to take on this poisoned chalice, well no-one who wants to keep their reputation intact. Whatever has gone wrong at this club has been going wrong for a long time. I reckon it started with the Hughes Era, bringing in the big names Arnoutovic, Shaqiri, etc, who, whilst they were clearly very talented footballers, they brought a toxicity into the club that has spread like a cancer. It is not going to be a quick fix. I think there will be more pain before we see an improvement, even a relegation, which breaks my heart to even think about. Many years ago when Charlton Athletic were in the Premiership managed by Alan Corbishley, they sacked him because they were no longer satisfied with mid-lower table finishes. I cannot recall who they brought in to replace him, but look what happened to them. When Stoke dispensed with the services of one Tony Pulis, for similar reasons I began to feel uneasy. Look what has happened to Stoke. There is the old adage: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". So what your effectively saying is that we shouldn’t aim for progression and no club should sack a manager to better themselves? |
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Post by elystokie on Nov 6, 2019 14:44:16 GMT
I have been eagerly watching the SentiVale's website since Friday for news of who the new Messiah is going to be. All there has been is speculation about this, that and the other. It's embarrassing. All these names being put forward and no end result. Quite clearly no one with any sense wants to take on this poisoned chalice, well no-one who wants to keep their reputation intact. Whatever has gone wrong at this club has been going wrong for a long time. I reckon it started with the Hughes Era, bringing in the big names Arnoutovic, Shaqiri, etc, who, whilst they were clearly very talented footballers, they brought a toxicity into the club that has spread like a cancer. It is not going to be a quick fix. I think there will be more pain before we see an improvement, even a relegation, which breaks my heart to even think about. Many years ago when Charlton Athletic were in the Premiership managed by Alan Corbishley, they sacked him because they were no longer satisfied with mid-lower table finishes. I cannot recall who they brought in to replace him, but look what happened to them. When Stoke dispensed with the services of one Tony Pulis, for similar reasons I began to feel uneasy. Look what has happened to Stoke. There is the old adage: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Reading a post Palace interview he did with the Daily Heil recently and it turns out he wasn't sacked at all according to him 🙄 Edit - the article wasn't recent, I read it recently  |
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Post by anguspants on Nov 6, 2019 15:00:10 GMT
Mozstokie, all i am saying is in hindsight we were in a blessed position being in the Premiership. We are not Liverpool or Citeh. To try to compete with those teams is impossible on a long term basis.
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Post by werrington on Nov 6, 2019 15:05:11 GMT
Mozstokie, all i am saying is in hindsight we were in a blessed position being in the Premiership. We are not Liverpool or Citeh. To try to compete with those teams is impossible on a long term basis. Perhaps it’s just me but I’ve absolutely no idea of the point you are trying to make |
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 6, 2019 15:42:25 GMT
I have been eagerly watching the SentiVale's website since Friday for news of who the new Messiah is going to be. All there has been is speculation about this, that and the other. It's embarrassing. All these names being put forward and no end result. Quite clearly no one with any sense wants to take on this poisoned chalice, well no-one who wants to keep their reputation intact. Whatever has gone wrong at this club has been going wrong for a long time. I reckon it started with the Hughes Era, bringing in the big names Arnoutovic, Shaqiri, etc, who, whilst they were clearly very talented footballers, they brought a toxicity into the club that has spread like a cancer. It is not going to be a quick fix. I think there will be more pain before we see an improvement, even a relegation, which breaks my heart to even think about. Many years ago when Charlton Athletic were in the Premiership managed by Alan Corbishley, they sacked him because they were no longer satisfied with mid-lower table finishes. I cannot recall who they brought in to replace him, but look what happened to them. When Stoke dispensed with the services of one Tony Pulis, for similar reasons I began to feel uneasy. Look what has happened to Stoke. There is the old adage: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".  |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 6, 2019 15:54:38 GMT
I have been eagerly watching the SentiVale's website since Friday for news of who the new Messiah is going to be. All there has been is speculation about this, that and the other. It's embarrassing. All these names being put forward and no end result. Quite clearly no one with any sense wants to take on this poisoned chalice, well no-one who wants to keep their reputation intact. Whatever has gone wrong at this club has been going wrong for a long time. I reckon it started with the Hughes Era, bringing in the big names Arnoutovic, Shaqiri, etc, who, whilst they were clearly very talented footballers, they brought a toxicity into the club that has spread like a cancer. It is not going to be a quick fix. I think there will be more pain before we see an improvement, even a relegation, which breaks my heart to even think about. Many years ago when Charlton Athletic were in the Premiership managed by Alan Corbishley, they sacked him because they were no longer satisfied with mid-lower table finishes. I cannot recall who they brought in to replace him, but look what happened to them. When Stoke dispensed with the services of one Tony Pulis, for similar reasons I began to feel uneasy. Look what has happened to Stoke. There is the old adage: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". It was broke. We did fix it. We're in the shit because we then followed that up with 'if it is broke, don't fix it'. |
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Post by anguspants on Nov 6, 2019 18:55:19 GMT
It clearly is just you.
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Nov 6, 2019 19:48:01 GMT
“If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” ...we shat the crankshaft out of the engine with Hughes and since then the gearbox has been stuck in reverse and all the wheels have fell off...or summat like that 🙈
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Post by pushon on Nov 6, 2019 19:54:28 GMT
“If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” ...we shat the crankshaft out of the engine with Hughes and since then the gearbox has been stuck in reverse and all the wheels have fell off...or summat like that 🙈 Are you aware that we achieved our best three premiership finishes while Mark Hughes was the manager? |
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Post by greyman on Nov 6, 2019 20:02:30 GMT
I have been eagerly watching the SentiVale's website since Friday for news of who the new Messiah is going to be. All there has been is speculation about this, that and the other. It's embarrassing. All these names being put forward and no end result. Quite clearly no one with any sense wants to take on this poisoned chalice, well no-one who wants to keep their reputation intact. Whatever has gone wrong at this club has been going wrong for a long time. I reckon it started with the Hughes Era, bringing in the big names Arnoutovic, Shaqiri, etc, who, whilst they were clearly very talented footballers, they brought a toxicity into the club that has spread like a cancer. It is not going to be a quick fix. I think there will be more pain before we see an improvement, even a relegation, which breaks my heart to even think about. Many years ago when Charlton Athletic were in the Premiership managed by Alan Corbishley, they sacked him because they were no longer satisfied with mid-lower table finishes. I cannot recall who they brought in to replace him, but look what happened to them. When Stoke dispensed with the services of one Tony Pulis, for similar reasons I began to feel uneasy. Look what has happened to Stoke. There is the old adage: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". When Pulis went I said we could have another thirty years in the top flight, win a cup final and qualify for the Champions League. Then when we got relegated somebody would come on here and say I knew this would happen when we sacked Pulis. Remember Charlton. |
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Nov 6, 2019 20:32:18 GMT
“If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” ...we shat the crankshaft out of the engine with Hughes and since then the gearbox has been stuck in reverse and all the wheels have fell off...or summat like that 🙈 Are you aware that we achieved our best three premiership finishes while Mark Hughes was the manager? What’s that got to do with anything? Are you saying things didn’t start going wrong when Hughes was in charge? |
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Nov 6, 2019 20:39:06 GMT
TP had taken us as far as he could and it was all desperately in need of a freshen up! Mark Hughes achieved that next step for 3 seasons and we played some fantastic football and feared no team. The mistake we made, which we have just repeated with Jones, was keeping Hughes probably half a season too long, which allowed the rot to set in and has ultimately resulted in us being in free fall, with no manager of any substance wanting to have anything to do with us. We should have gone foreign after Hughes, in my opinion, as we had the quality players to adapt to a continental style.
When staying as manager of Preston is considered a better option than joining Stoke, you know our stock and reputation is now damaged beyond repair, for at least the foreseable.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 6, 2019 20:43:43 GMT
What a fucking shit post, Pulis's football was chronically crap in his last few months. It was solidly relegation form for most of his last season, as well as being dreadful to watch. It was stale, turgid, lifeless and his time had frankly expired. It was most certainly "broke", and we did fix it.
Our relegation happened when we didn't do the exact thing to Mark Hughes, who had improved us terrifically and gave us the best football I've ever seen, when he became similarly stale.
Our relegation occurred half a decade after TFP left the club, and can be in absolutely no way attributed to his departure.
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