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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 4, 2019 17:53:22 GMT
What can this squad achieve?
The two wins we had recently showed a glimmer of hope, only for it to be immediately dashed.
Are we doomed, or can a pragmatic, capable manager find something to build on?
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Post by 'i'mnaked' on Nov 4, 2019 17:58:39 GMT
For me it's simple.
Get Tone in and I guarantee he'll leave the club in a miles better position than he found it.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 4, 2019 18:00:23 GMT
What can this squad achieve? The two wins we had recently showed a glimmer of hope, only for it to be immediately dashed. Are we doomed, or can a pragmatic, capable manager find something to build on? This season? 10th. |
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Post by huuuuuth on Nov 4, 2019 18:02:54 GMT
It’s going to be difficult for whoever comes in, because the squad we have isn’t really suited to any system at all.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Nov 4, 2019 18:04:58 GMT
It’s going to be difficult for whoever comes in, because the squad we have isn’t really suited to any system at all. With respect that’s nonsense. Their footballers, that’s all they’ve done all their lives. They can fit into a system to suit collectively |
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Post by zerps on Nov 4, 2019 18:05:59 GMT
For me it's simple. Get Tone in and I guarantee he'll leave the club in a miles better position than he found it. 😆 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 18:08:26 GMT
I think the squad is poor, to say the least.
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Post by plymouthpotter4 on Nov 4, 2019 18:08:53 GMT
It’s going to be difficult for whoever comes in, because the squad we have isn’t really suited to any system at all. With respect that’s nonsense. Their footballers, that’s all they’ve done all their lives. They can fit into a system to suit collectively Well if the new manager comes in and likes to play with wingers we're not exactly overrun with them. That's where I see there being difficulties until we can get Verlinden back plus new players in Jan. |
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Post by burberrybassist on Nov 4, 2019 18:14:28 GMT
Fitness and defence seem glaringly short, fix that and we would be a solid squad easily looking at play offs in my opinion.
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Post by heworksardtho on Nov 4, 2019 18:15:39 GMT
What can this squad achieve? The two wins we had recently showed a glimmer of hope, only for it to be immediately dashed. Are we doomed, or can a pragmatic, capable manager find something to build on? They are Gash mate , even Jim couldn’t fix it for us 😎 |
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Post by thevoid on Nov 4, 2019 18:19:26 GMT
What can this squad achieve? The two wins we had recently showed a glimmer of hope, only for it to be immediately dashed. Are we doomed, or can a pragmatic, capable manager find something to build on? They are Gash mate , even Jim couldn’t fix it for us 😎 Jim would prefer Crewe anyway. |
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Post by huuuuuth on Nov 4, 2019 18:19:58 GMT
It’s going to be difficult for whoever comes in, because the squad we have isn’t really suited to any system at all. With respect that’s nonsense. Their footballers, that’s all they’ve done all their lives. They can fit into a system to suit collectively I know what you mean mate, but this squad of players is up there with the worst (Badou and Etebo aside) I’ve seen in over 40 years of watching. |
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Post by Gifton on Nov 4, 2019 18:37:30 GMT
Everyone is incredulous about our position given the squad of players we have. Supporters, management, the media etc.
I think it's time everyone let go of this myth that we have a good squad just because it cost a relative fortune to assemble. They have proven time and time again that they are a bunch of bottlers with not a scrap of bravery or heart. Where is their pride? Does it not hurt to be a laughing stock?
I'm sick of hearing that we have "premier League" players, we don't, they are bottom of the championship players as is proven by their position in the table. They need to get over their own hype and realise their level because there is no huge queue of clubs willing to take them back to where they think they belong.
Believing we are better than we are is one of the primary reasons we are in this mess.
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Post by ravey123 on Nov 4, 2019 18:48:27 GMT
For me it's simple. Get Tone in and I guarantee he'll leave the club in a miles better position than he found it. I think of the realistic options TP is the best option. However, I have 1 major concern - TP likes to have characters in his squad - characters who "manage" the dressing room. I an't see a single "character" amongst this group of players |
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Post by tony1234 on Nov 4, 2019 18:54:51 GMT
With a full season...
Decent manager - by which we are talking Rowett, Monk, Adkins 12th to 15th.
poor to middling strikers and only one creative winger who is out of form would let’ him down.
This yr would get us 19th)
v good manager like Bruce, Warnock, Hughton - perhaps 8th-12th.
this year would get us 14th
A very good manager plus a good LAM/LFwd who got Vokes and Ince playing near their capabilities in this league... could scrape the play offs if he kept Ndiaye and Etebo.
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Post by sheds1862 on Nov 4, 2019 18:55:50 GMT
Just what was needed , another thread regurgitated from the umpteen others
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 4, 2019 20:08:40 GMT
Just what was needed , another thread regurgitated from the umpteen others Not really, I am essentially asking can any new manager do anything with these players? Thanks for the support, though! 😁 |
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Post by sheds1862 on Nov 4, 2019 20:19:13 GMT
Just what was needed , another thread regurgitated from the umpteen others Not really, I am essentially asking can any new manager do anything with these players? Thanks for the support, though! 😁 It wasn't a personal pop at you pal but the same questions get rehashed all the time. It's nothing that hasn't been said before Basically this squad is top 8 material . |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 4, 2019 20:25:10 GMT
Not really, I am essentially asking can any new manager do anything with these players? Thanks for the support, though! 😁 It wasn't a personal pop at you pal but the same questions get rehashed all the time. It's nothing that hasn't been said before Basically this squad is top 8 material . No problem, Sheds, cheers for your opinion. |
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Post by sheds1862 on Nov 4, 2019 20:25:18 GMT
Literally frustration leads to comments
End of the day we all trying to pull in the same direction but it's bloody hard
I'm so fearful. Who knows we may turn this around 🤔
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 4, 2019 20:42:08 GMT
Don't think it really matters who the manager is, the players are terrible individually and collectively.
The shittest defence always gets relegated and we will be right up there as one of the shittest at the end of the season.
Can't see us attracting anywhere like a decent manager either, the club is quite clearly fucked. I suspect we're just going to ruin another manager's career.
In short, we're fucked.
I admire the positivity some people have saying we're play-off strength and all that, but it's just blind loyalty I'm afraid - we're bloody awful.
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Post by jarvinski on Nov 4, 2019 20:44:21 GMT
George Formby wouldn’t get a tune out of this bunch of shite
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 20:45:13 GMT
21st is the target this season, make no mistake.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 4, 2019 20:45:43 GMT
Last season I thought we had a squad capable of challenging for promotion that was mismanaged pretty much throughout the whole season.
This season it just looks like the players are shit - with one or two exceptions.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 4, 2019 20:47:47 GMT
George Formby wouldn’t get a tune out of this bunch of shite So it won't turn out nice again? 😜 |
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Post by Godo on Nov 4, 2019 22:02:46 GMT
18th at absolute best with this bunch of overpaid losers. No pace, little guile/technical ability, no bite, no brains, never look to pass and move ( and haven't for 3 seasons), glaring omissions in the squad, no indication we've learned ANY lessons regarding recruitment etc etc.
Fuck the apologists who say "where would we be without the Coates family?" - the running of this club for 3 seasons has been a disgrace - amateurish and catastrophic.
The Last post at the start was very touching but also very pertinent for our poor club!
We'll lose at Barnsley and be all but relegated in November so I'm not sure "a decent manager" would now want to be associated with the absolute shower of shit running our club or those being paid handsomely to wear the shirt. !!!!!!
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