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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 31, 2019 8:40:52 GMT
He’s a good footballer who in a good side should score 10 goals a season. How many times has he done that in his career? Hes nearly 30 just in case you need reminding? He's never done it, which surprises me. But he should. He's a good finisher, good in the air and times his runs superbly well late in the box. Don't think he's a central player though, I'd play him on the wing. He's more use centrally than Allen and more use than Etebo going forward.
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Post by lordb on Oct 31, 2019 9:06:31 GMT
How many times has he done that in his career? Hes nearly 30 just in case you need reminding? He's never done it, which surprises me. But he should. He's a good finisher, good in the air and times his runs superbly well late in the box. Don't think he's a central player though, I'd play him on the wing. He's more use centrally than Allen and more use than Etebo going forward. So you'd play Clucas and Ince as your wingers? Jesus H Christ. To be fair we actually have worse options Only one decent actual winger on Stokes books currently.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 31, 2019 9:10:27 GMT
How many times has he done that in his career? Hes nearly 30 just in case you need reminding? He's never done it, which surprises me. But he should. He's a good finisher, good in the air and times his runs superbly well late in the box. Don't think he's a central player though, I'd play him on the wing. He's more use centrally than Allen and more use than Etebo going forward. Brilliant mate. Hes never done it...at any level...hes nearly 30...but he should do it. You've brightened my day with this one. Even by your standards that is "new level bollocks"
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Post by march4 on Oct 31, 2019 9:12:10 GMT
Has Clucas worked out what position he was playing on Saturday yet?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 9:14:17 GMT
Clucas has hit double figures twice in his career - once for Mansfield (13 in 43) and once for Chesterfield (12 in 49).
Those figures include cup competitions but only FA and League Cup competitions.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 31, 2019 9:14:36 GMT
Has Clucas worked out what position he was playing on Saturday yet? He hasn't worked out what colours we play in yet so I doubt it.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 31, 2019 9:16:24 GMT
Clucas has hit double figures twice in his career - once for Mansfield (13 in 43) and once for Chesterfield (12 in 49). Those figures include cup competitions but only FA and League Cup competitions. Bayern is right. The lad is Bryan Robson disguised as David rowson.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 9:17:46 GMT
Clucas has hit double figures twice in his career - once for Mansfield (13 in 43) and once for Chesterfield (12 in 49). Those figures include cup competitions but only FA and League Cup competitions. Bayern is right. The lad is Bryan Robson disguised as David rowson. I thought you were being a bit harsh to be fair, Dave.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 31, 2019 9:31:51 GMT
He's never done it, which surprises me. But he should. He's a good finisher, good in the air and times his runs superbly well late in the box. Don't think he's a central player though, I'd play him on the wing. He's more use centrally than Allen and more use than Etebo going forward. So you'd play Clucas and Ince as your wingers? Jesus H Christ. To be fair we actually have worse options Only one decent actual winger on Stokes books currently. Clucas has played his best football for us on the wing. I'd have Verlinden as first choice over him though. Ince scores goals from out there. What's not to like?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 31, 2019 9:32:30 GMT
Clucas has hit double figures twice in his career - once for Mansfield (13 in 43) and once for Chesterfield (12 in 49). Those figures include cup competitions but only FA and League Cup competitions. I've never counted cups.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 31, 2019 9:33:17 GMT
He's never done it, which surprises me. But he should. He's a good finisher, good in the air and times his runs superbly well late in the box. Don't think he's a central player though, I'd play him on the wing. He's more use centrally than Allen and more use than Etebo going forward. Brilliant mate. Hes never done it...at any level...hes nearly 30...but he should do it. You've brightened my day with this one. Even by your standards that is "new level bollocks" He should. He has every attribute that should make him be a regular goalscorer from midfield.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 31, 2019 9:40:47 GMT
Brilliant mate. Hes never done it...at any level...hes nearly 30...but he should do it. You've brightened my day with this one. Even by your standards that is "new level bollocks" He should. He has every attribute that should make him be a regular goalscorer from midfield. If hes never utilised those attributes before hes unlikely to start now, at 29 knocking on 30, is he?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 31, 2019 9:51:04 GMT
He should. He has every attribute that should make him be a regular goalscorer from midfield. If hes never utilised those attributes before hes unlikely to start now, at 29 knocking on 30, is he? He has done though this season.
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Post by werrington on Oct 31, 2019 9:53:47 GMT
He’s been one of our better performers this season
Trouble is, as with Glenn Whelan back in the day peoples minds are/were made up walking to the stadium
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Oct 31, 2019 9:54:46 GMT
Struggle to see the mentality of reading an article about how negative things on fans' forums about yourself can wreck your performances (so the performances/results of your team) and even ruin your career, and your first thought was to start a thread on a fans' forum slating him for that and everything else.
This forum was pretty poisonous when things were going well, I'd read that article about players/managers reading into the negativity on here and think that poison spreading through the club might be partly why we're where we are now. Or you could just start another thread putting the boot in to a player that'll probably read it and start to dislike the fans/club.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 31, 2019 10:31:22 GMT
Struggle to see the mentality of reading an article about how negative things on fans' forums about yourself can wreck your performances (so the performances/results of your team) and even ruin your career, and your first thought was to start a thread on a fans' forum slating him for that and everything else. This forum was pretty poisonous when things were going well, I'd read that article about players/managers reading into the negativity on here and think that poison spreading through the club might be partly why we're where we are now. Or you could just start another thread putting the boot in to a player that'll probably read it and start to dislike the fans/club. Yes frogger. Great work lad. When all said and done it comes back to the same thing...its the fans fault. I'm going to start a thread about every player individually. Hopefully they'll all read the one about them and every one of them will decide to fuck off in January.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 31, 2019 10:39:03 GMT
Struggle to see the mentality of reading an article about how negative things on fans' forums about yourself can wreck your performances (so the performances/results of your team) and even ruin your career, and your first thought was to start a thread on a fans' forum slating him for that and everything else. This forum was pretty poisonous when things were going well, I'd read that article about players/managers reading into the negativity on here and think that poison spreading through the club might be partly why we're where we are now. Or you could just start another thread putting the boot in to a player that'll probably read it and start to dislike the fans/club. Generally though people are honest about them. I don't get why they'd look on here or Twitter if they don't want to see what people honestly think about them. If they do and that affects them, then they're a weak minded fuck who I don't want in my team.
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Post by kristoff on Oct 31, 2019 10:44:30 GMT
Struggle to see the mentality of reading an article about how negative things on fans' forums about yourself can wreck your performances (so the performances/results of your team) and even ruin your career, and your first thought was to start a thread on a fans' forum slating him for that and everything else. This forum was pretty poisonous when things were going well, I'd read that article about players/managers reading into the negativity on here and think that poison spreading through the club might be partly why we're where we are now. Or you could just start another thread putting the boot in to a player that'll probably read it and start to dislike the fans/club. Yes frogger. Great work lad. When all said and done it comes back to the same thing...its the fans fault. I'm going to start a thread about every player individually. Hopefully they'll all read the one about them and every one of them will decide to fuck off in January. He said partly the fans fault. When all’s said and done, a lot on here moan about Liverpool/Arsenal etc fans and they are no better. Moan about every single fucking thing. Is it shit at the moment? Of course it is. Are the players and club to blame? Very much so. But it seems popular to slaughter a player/manager before even signing and then never give them a chance with some. With some fans on here and Twitter I wouldn’t give a fuck and avoid these places if I were a player too
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 31, 2019 11:15:42 GMT
Yes frogger. Great work lad. When all said and done it comes back to the same thing...its the fans fault. I'm going to start a thread about every player individually. Hopefully they'll all read the one about them and every one of them will decide to fuck off in January. He said partly the fans fault. When all’s said and done, a lot on here moan about Liverpool/Arsenal etc fans and they are no better. Moan about every single fucking thing. Is it shit at the moment? Of course it is. Are the players and club to blame? Very much so. But it seems popular to slaughter a player/manager before even signing and then never give them a chance with some. With some fans on here and Twitter I wouldn’t give a fuck and avoid these places if I were a player too Let's not beat about the Bush here. This group of players are pathetic. A disgrace to themselves and the club. No amount of abuse or criticism is too much for them via any social media platform because it is yet to manifest itself at games. They are bloody lucky because they deserve way more shit than they get. To a man, they are a bunch of charlatans. Fans fault my arse, partly or wholly.
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Post by kristoff on Oct 31, 2019 11:19:32 GMT
He said partly the fans fault. When all’s said and done, a lot on here moan about Liverpool/Arsenal etc fans and they are no better. Moan about every single fucking thing. Is it shit at the moment? Of course it is. Are the players and club to blame? Very much so. But it seems popular to slaughter a player/manager before even signing and then never give them a chance with some. With some fans on here and Twitter I wouldn’t give a fuck and avoid these places if I were a player too Let's not beat about the Bush here. This group of players are pathetic. A disgrace to themselves and the club. No amount of abuse or criticism is too much for them via any social media platform because it is yet to manifest itself at games. They are bloody lucky because they deserve way more shit than they get. To a man, they are a bunch of charlatans. Fans fault my arse, partly or wholly. No amount of abuse is too much? Have a word with yourself. Perhaps the country wouldn’t be so fucked if people stopped hurling abuse at everyone as if they are so bloody perfect.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 31, 2019 11:25:13 GMT
Let's not beat about the Bush here. This group of players are pathetic. A disgrace to themselves and the club. No amount of abuse or criticism is too much for them via any social media platform because it is yet to manifest itself at games. They are bloody lucky because they deserve way more shit than they get. To a man, they are a bunch of charlatans. Fans fault my arse, partly or wholly. No amount of abuse is too much? Have a word with yourself. Perhaps the country wouldn’t be so fucked if people stopped hurling abuse at everyone as if they are so bloody perfect. Let's hope you are standing in the forthcoming elections. Peace and harmony to all men (and women). I'd vote for you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 11:30:32 GMT
Does that make Tom Ince a shit Sam Clucas as well then??? If it makes them both shit, then yes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 11:38:41 GMT
He said partly the fans fault. When all’s said and done, a lot on here moan about Liverpool/Arsenal etc fans and they are no better. Moan about every single fucking thing. Is it shit at the moment? Of course it is. Are the players and club to blame? Very much so. But it seems popular to slaughter a player/manager before even signing and then never give them a chance with some. With some fans on here and Twitter I wouldn’t give a fuck and avoid these places if I were a player too Let's not beat about the Bush here. This group of players are pathetic. A disgrace to themselves and the club.
No amount of abuse or criticism is too much for them via any social media platform because it is yet to manifest itself at games. They are bloody lucky because they deserve way more shit than they get. To a man, they are a bunch of charlatans. Fans fault my arse, partly or wholly. Are they though? I mean they're playing pretty inconsistently, and not getting results when they play well, which admittedly hasn't been enough, but are they really as far as 'pathetic' and 'a disgrace to themselves and the club'? Seems to me like this is how we do things now. You're either god (Gregory two weeks ago) or you are utter shit and a disgrace to your family (Gregory 4 days ago). It's mental. I understand the wish to discuss football and that's what this board is about, but sometimes the anger and insults people throw on here are ridiculous. Some people genuinely just need to take a break, ignore the football for a few days, enjoy life, then go watch it next week and hope we do better. Personally, I think two good performances and two poor ones is an upturn in form, so I'm hoping (although I'm not sure I believe it myself) that we improve. I've been guilty of it myself in the past, screaming and shouting via keyboard about players being a waste of space and pathetically shit, but they're not are they, they're just not playing well. They're all frustrated when we lose and all elated when we win, same as all of us. So just calm the fuck down because the rhetoric on this board itself is what is getting pathetic.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 31, 2019 11:40:19 GMT
He's wank.
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Post by toppercorner on Oct 31, 2019 11:45:36 GMT
didn't like him a jot last season for being the the cliched modern day footballer, mard-arsing around, throwing his hands in the air, ranting, shushing, and generally below par performances.
this season, i've initially been impressed. worked hard, good interchanges with others and by far the least of our problems. He has gone off the boil though, and if what happened on saturday is true (i left the moment the final whistle was blown) then it's bad habits creeping in again.
verlinden back in Jan and out on the left for me as first choice.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 31, 2019 13:53:54 GMT
He should be playing left back.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 31, 2019 14:12:45 GMT
Let's not beat about the Bush here. This group of players are pathetic. A disgrace to themselves and the club.
No amount of abuse or criticism is too much for them via any social media platform because it is yet to manifest itself at games. They are bloody lucky because they deserve way more shit than they get. To a man, they are a bunch of charlatans. Fans fault my arse, partly or wholly. Are they though? I mean they're playing pretty inconsistently, and not getting results when they play well, which admittedly hasn't been enough, but are they really as far as 'pathetic' and 'a disgrace to themselves and the club'? Seems to me like this is how we do things now. You're either god (Gregory two weeks ago) or you are utter shit and a disgrace to your family (Gregory 4 days ago). It's mental. I understand the wish to discuss football and that's what this board is about, but sometimes the anger and insults people throw on here are ridiculous. Some people genuinely just need to take a break, ignore the football for a few days, enjoy life, then go watch it next week and hope we do better. Personally, I think two good performances and two poor ones is an upturn in form, so I'm hoping (although I'm not sure I believe it myself) that we improve. I've been guilty of it myself in the past, screaming and shouting via keyboard about players being a waste of space and pathetically shit, but they're not are they, they're just not playing well. They're all frustrated when we lose and all elated when we win, same as all of us. So just calm the fuck down because the rhetoric on this board itself is what is getting pathetic. We've won 2 in 14, 5 in 38 and probably around 20 in the last 100 games. The players are an embarrassment. Pound for pound, they are easily the worst team we've ever had. If that isnt embarrassing and pathetic in a sporting context I'm not sure what is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 14:34:13 GMT
Are they though? I mean they're playing pretty inconsistently, and not getting results when they play well, which admittedly hasn't been enough, but are they really as far as 'pathetic' and 'a disgrace to themselves and the club'? Seems to me like this is how we do things now. You're either god (Gregory two weeks ago) or you are utter shit and a disgrace to your family (Gregory 4 days ago). It's mental. I understand the wish to discuss football and that's what this board is about, but sometimes the anger and insults people throw on here are ridiculous. Some people genuinely just need to take a break, ignore the football for a few days, enjoy life, then go watch it next week and hope we do better. Personally, I think two good performances and two poor ones is an upturn in form, so I'm hoping (although I'm not sure I believe it myself) that we improve. I've been guilty of it myself in the past, screaming and shouting via keyboard about players being a waste of space and pathetically shit, but they're not are they, they're just not playing well. They're all frustrated when we lose and all elated when we win, same as all of us. So just calm the fuck down because the rhetoric on this board itself is what is getting pathetic. We've won 2 in 14, 5 in 38 and probably around 20 in the last 100 games. The players are an embarrassment. Pound for pound, they are easily the worst team we've ever had. If that isnt embarrassing and pathetic in a sporting context I'm not sure what is. That's just not true though is it. They're not an embarrassment they're just not playing well. And 'in a sporting context' is the pertinent comment there. It's a fucking game of football. What possesses people to spend weeks and weeks so unbelievably enraged about something like that that they cannot stop themselves posting over-the-top tantrums online is mad. I get frustrated too, and I used to do the same, but this board is getting a joke now.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 31, 2019 15:41:29 GMT
We've won 2 in 14, 5 in 38 and probably around 20 in the last 100 games. The players are an embarrassment. Pound for pound, they are easily the worst team we've ever had. If that isnt embarrassing and pathetic in a sporting context I'm not sure what is. That's just not true though is it. They're not an embarrassment they're just not playing well. And 'in a sporting context' is the pertinent comment there. It's a fucking game of football. What possesses people to spend weeks and weeks so unbelievably enraged about something like that that they cannot stop themselves posting over-the-top tantrums online is mad. I get frustrated too, and I used to do the same, but this board is getting a joke now. If they weren’t embarrassed by the slop they served up against Huddersfield, they should have been!
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Post by thehoof on Oct 31, 2019 18:48:31 GMT
He’s a good footballer who in a good side should score 10 goals a season. Given that he’s never managed that in his career (43 goals in 315 appearances), he’s clearly only played at poor clubs- which is his level- a complete vanilla player.
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