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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Oct 31, 2019 7:27:45 GMT
I don't think Brian Clough needed xG
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 31, 2019 8:57:49 GMT
In the round I like these kind of stats and I think they can be indicative of showing if not bad luck then at least small areas you can improve, shooting on target or eradicating daft defensive errors, which would make a huge difference if you are broadly speaking playing okay It's his commentary I have an issue with. I'm not clear what he means about 6 points from the last 4 games being 'huge underperformance on the past' ? It's quite the opposite, we hadn't won for 6 months before that. That's exactly the issue I've got with it. Stating that we've underperformed and the xG stats back it up is fine, but what he doesn't seem to realise is that there is sometimes a damn good reason why the xG stats are what they are. if you're a team that create a lot but score little it suggests that your strikers are fucking awful. That's not going to necessarily change unless the strikers do. Same for conceding more goals than the stats say you should do: it could be because your keeper's rubbish just as much as it could be down to variance. Unfortunately he seems to have got fallen down the rabbithole of assuming that within these statistics lies the answer to life and that anyone who doesn't agree with his interpretation of them is an unenlightened idiot. There are some serious ego/narcissism issues bubbling under the surface of his tweets and he does come across as arrogant. A bit of humility when presenting a viewpoint that goes massively against the grain of popular opinion is always welcome, and would see people being far more receptive to a message that contradicts what they're seeing with their own eyes. He has no humility whatsoever, he doesn't even know the definition of the word. His opinion is always correct, no one else's.
He's trapped in this Jones bubble. His fantasy land where Stoke should be 6th but they're 23rd, the results aren't reflecting the performances, cherry picking the past 4 matches because it suits. We are where we are for a reason.
A. We have crap strikers B. We have a crap defence C. Aside from Badou and Etebo, the rest of the midfield players we have are garbage
We lie where we deserve to be, 23rd in the Championship. No amount of xG talk repairs the losses inflicted on us. We have to put it into action. It's no good saying stick with it it'll come good, look at my stats!
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Post by mamasgloves on Oct 31, 2019 9:08:35 GMT
That's exactly the issue I've got with it. Stating that we've underperformed and the xG stats back it up is fine, but what he doesn't seem to realise is that there is sometimes a damn good reason why the xG stats are what they are. if you're a team that create a lot but score little it suggests that your strikers are fucking awful. That's not going to necessarily change unless the strikers do. Same for conceding more goals than the stats say you should do: it could be because your keeper's rubbish just as much as it could be down to variance. Unfortunately he seems to have got fallen down the rabbithole of assuming that within these statistics lies the answer to life and that anyone who doesn't agree with his interpretation of them is an unenlightened idiot. There are some serious ego/narcissism issues bubbling under the surface of his tweets and he does come across as arrogant. A bit of humility when presenting a viewpoint that goes massively against the grain of popular opinion is always welcome, and would see people being far more receptive to a message that contradicts what they're seeing with their own eyes. He has no humility whatsoever, he doesn't even know the definition of the word. His opinion is always correct, no one else's.
He's trapped in this Jones bubble. His fantasy land where Stoke should be 6th but they're 23rd, the results aren't reflecting the performances, cherry picking the past 4 matches because it suits. We are where we are for a reason. A. We have crap strikers B. We have a crap defence C. Aside from Badou and Etebo, the rest of the midfield players we have are garbage We lie where we deserve to be, 23rd in the Championship. No amount of xG talk repairs the losses inflicted on us. We have to put it into action. It's no good saying stick with it it'll come good, look at my stats!
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I've seen him take the piss out of other people for regularly blocking and now no-one is doing it more than him 😄
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 31, 2019 9:36:22 GMT
He has no humility whatsoever, he doesn't even know the definition of the word. His opinion is always correct, no one else's.
He's trapped in this Jones bubble. His fantasy land where Stoke should be 6th but they're 23rd, the results aren't reflecting the performances, cherry picking the past 4 matches because it suits. We are where we are for a reason. A. We have crap strikers B. We have a crap defence C. Aside from Badou and Etebo, the rest of the midfield players we have are garbage We lie where we deserve to be, 23rd in the Championship. No amount of xG talk repairs the losses inflicted on us. We have to put it into action. It's no good saying stick with it it'll come good, look at my stats!
I've seen him take the piss out of other people for regularly blocking and now no-one is doing it more than him 😄 That's something else that grates on me. Blocking someone with a difference of opinion. You can't go blocking anyone who disagrees otherwise he'll have no one to talk to aside from fellow Jones cronies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 0:37:53 GMT
I've seen him take the piss out of other people for regularly blocking and now no-one is doing it more than him 😄 That's something else that grates on me. Blocking someone with a difference of opinion. You can't go blocking anyone who disagrees otherwise he'll have no one to talk to aside from fellow Jones cronies. .... and Jon Coates.
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Post by macarisredarmy on Nov 1, 2019 8:39:35 GMT
He has no humility whatsoever, he doesn't even know the definition of the word. His opinion is always correct, no one else's.
He's trapped in this Jones bubble. His fantasy land where Stoke should be 6th but they're 23rd, the results aren't reflecting the performances, cherry picking the past 4 matches because it suits. We are where we are for a reason. A. We have crap strikers B. We have a crap defence C. Aside from Badou and Etebo, the rest of the midfield players we have are garbage We lie where we deserve to be, 23rd in the Championship. No amount of xG talk repairs the losses inflicted on us. We have to put it into action. It's no good saying stick with it it'll come good, look at my stats!
I've seen him take the piss out of other people for regularly blocking and now no-one is doing it more than him 😄 I've seen him take the piss out of people on Twitter that I am friendly with, not xG related. Guy is not very nice in my opinion.
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 1, 2019 9:32:55 GMT
I think Anal just about covers it
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Post by mamasgloves on Nov 1, 2019 16:36:30 GMT
Time for Tom boy to deactivate that account I reckon
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 1, 2019 18:36:06 GMT
Come on lad, get a grip. Even changing his Twitter name to what he has because of Jones.
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Post by mamasgloves on Nov 1, 2019 19:35:31 GMT
Come on lad, get a grip. Even changing his Twitter name to what he has because of Jones. I think he's actually mentally unstable or a moron just desperate for some attention. Probably both.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 4, 2019 23:15:49 GMT
If further proof was needed of their delusion
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 23:17:17 GMT
If further proof was needed of their delusion ... and that is the funniest tweet that I have read in a very long time.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 4, 2019 23:18:33 GMT
If further proof was needed of their delusion ... and that is the funniest tweet that I have read in a very long time. I’ll give you another then😄
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 23:18:37 GMT
If further proof was needed of their delusion Maybe it is Nathan Jones? 👀
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Nov 4, 2019 23:19:46 GMT
The Blades Analytics account is brilliant, this is just a terrible effort to copy them.
Terrible, deluded opinions, time after time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 23:20:12 GMT
... and that is the funniest tweet that I have read in a very long time. I’ll give you another then😄 Whoever it is - he/she does not live in the world that I live in.
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Post by ursems2boots on Nov 4, 2019 23:22:18 GMT
It’s Nathan’s Twitter account...
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 4, 2019 23:25:48 GMT
... and that is the funniest tweet that I have read in a very long time. I’ll give you another then😄 He's right.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 4, 2019 23:28:43 GMT
The Blades Analytics account is brilliant, this is just a terrible effort to copy them. Terrible, deluded opinions, time after time. It could be a genuinely great account. But it’s got to remain neutral to players and managers and present an analysis based on what’s actually happening. The comments tonight show that it’s a load of old claptrap.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 4, 2019 23:29:44 GMT
I’ll give you another then😄 He's right. Not in the slightest is he right. There’s one man who has sent us on our way to league one. He was fired on Friday. Let’s not make shit up.
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Post by CampbxllEra on Nov 5, 2019 0:04:52 GMT
Stoke Hub is better 🤨
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 0:20:22 GMT
I like lettuce.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 5, 2019 7:25:45 GMT
Not in the slightest is he right. There’s one man who has sent us on our way to league one. He was fired on Friday. Let’s not make shit up. I mean that he's right that last night's performance was worse than anything under Jones. It may be our worst performance in the last decade.
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Post by Ron on Nov 5, 2019 7:29:28 GMT
The bloke / account is a joke. Pro Jones agenda driven bollocks from day 1- I called him out and said he had an agenda- using his interpretation of stats to defend Jones. He blocked me! Pathetic account and a bloke who i bet wants to crawl up his own arse now one stat doesn’t lie- Jones was our worst EVER manager. Fact.
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Post by mamasgloves on Nov 5, 2019 7:53:17 GMT
What a sad and pathetic little boy, it's beyond parody now. The next manager WILL better Jones' record so he's going to look an even bigger twat when that happens.
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Post by telfordstokie on Nov 5, 2019 8:27:55 GMT
If further proof was needed of their delusion Worst performers last night were Ward, Smith, Lindsay and £9m man Sam Vokes - all Jones signings, all terrible. That’s not even mentioning Nick Powell who seems to have retired from professional football after we gave him a boatload of money and sacked off Bojan to make way for him, let alone Jordan ‘Invisible Man’ Cousins. Still we should have been in the play-off positions under NJ apparently if it wasn’t for all the nasty clubs we’ve played against totally ignoring the xG stats and scoring more goals than us each game. 🙄
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Post by mamasgloves on Nov 5, 2019 18:50:36 GMT
If further proof was needed of their delusion Worst performers last night were Ward, Smith, Lindsay and £9m man Sam Vokes - all Jones signings, all terrible. That’s not even mentioning Nick Powell who seems to have retired from professional football after we gave him a boatload of money and sacked off Bojan to make way for him, let alone Jordan ‘Invisible Man’ Cousins. Still we should have been in the play-off positions under NJ apparently if it wasn’t for all the nasty clubs we’ve played against totally ignoring the xG stats and scoring more goals than us each game. 🙄 bUt We wOn xG
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Post by mamasgloves on Nov 23, 2019 19:51:23 GMT
If further proof was needed of their delusion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He closed that account yet?
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