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Post by Fred Merger on Oct 26, 2019 19:58:24 GMT
Have we got a bit of a situation where certain players are trying to undermine what they see as a lower league out of his depth style manager. Only to kick on and buckle down for a new higher profile type manager if or when one comes in.
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Post by thehoof on Oct 26, 2019 20:05:33 GMT
There job is to perform on the pitch not to down tools to get rid of the manager.
Most of them have very little self respect IF that is what they are doing.
The truth is that with a couple of exceptions, they are average journeymen footballers- and some aren’t even that good.
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Post by shipshape on Oct 26, 2019 20:10:30 GMT
They're not underperforming at all.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2019 20:16:42 GMT
After those two great wins they suddenly decided they've had enough and thought you know what sod this, it looks like we might start winning games we'd better start playing crap, no its utter bollocks.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 26, 2019 20:19:34 GMT
If that were so they wouldn't have beaten Swansea or Fulham
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 26, 2019 20:21:45 GMT
They're not underperforming at all. Really?  |
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Post by shipshape on Oct 26, 2019 20:24:17 GMT
They're not underperforming at all. Really? Yes. They are just not very good. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 26, 2019 20:28:50 GMT
Really? Yes. They are just not very good. But that squad should not be bottom of the league should it? There is something toxic in the club, every player and every manager that comes in immediately becomes a worse version of themselves. I want to know why and I think we have got to the point where we need a new CEO with a fresh pair of eyes who can do a full overhaul of the club philosophy. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Oct 26, 2019 20:30:40 GMT
Yes. They are just not very good. But that squad should not be bottom of the league should it? There is something toxic in the club, every player and every manager that comes in immediately becomes a worse version of themselves. I want to know why and I think we have got to the point where we need a new CEO with a fresh pair of eyes who can do a full overhaul of the club philosophy. Definatly more than meets the eye, it's a large coincidence for literally everybody to turn to shit as soon as they sign for stoke |
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Post by Godo on Oct 26, 2019 20:30:59 GMT
No they - Etebo aside - are as shit as the manager. In general the failure to sign a left back is a symbol of the rot and incompetence that exists throughout our entire club. Old man Coates is past it and John is a mug. If only Denise had the slightest interest in football we'd have had the brains behind the Bet365 organisation on board. She'd have appointed a proper director of football and rid the club of the amateur clowns who are now taking us back down to division one
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Post by shipshape on Oct 26, 2019 20:32:02 GMT
Yes. They are just not very good. But that squad should not be bottom of the league should it? There is something toxic in the club, every player and every manager that comes in immediately becomes a worse version of themselves. I want to know why and I think we have got to the point where we need a new CEO with a fresh pair of eyes who can do a full overhaul of the club philosophy. Who employed, and more importantly, continues to employ that CEO everyone thinks is to blame? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 20:32:18 GMT
I'm not at all sure what is going on.
Jones gave a resignation speech, and the players started to play well.
Two games are won, and it is apparent that Jones is staying.
Players go back to under performing.
I suspect that the players know that he is a tit, and they want him gone.
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 26, 2019 20:33:45 GMT
Yeah they obviously accidentally won at Swansea and at home against Fulham. Did their best to lose but the opposition were just too shit
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 26, 2019 20:34:00 GMT
Looks to me like we are so far below the standards that Pulis inherited all those years ago. What a fucking disgrace
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 20:35:01 GMT
If they are then we have a huge problem as they are now pretty much the same group of starters that did the same to Rowett.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 26, 2019 20:35:28 GMT
But that squad should not be bottom of the league should it? There is something toxic in the club, every player and every manager that comes in immediately becomes a worse version of themselves. I want to know why and I think we have got to the point where we need a new CEO with a fresh pair of eyes who can do a full overhaul of the club philosophy. Who employed, and more importantly, continues to employ that CEO everyone thinks is to blame? I get that. He isn't going to sack himself. Yes PC should fook him off pronto. He's done fuck all to justify the 3m+ quid he has earned this last 4 years. |
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Post by cooper67 on Oct 26, 2019 20:37:04 GMT
Yes. They are just not very good. But that squad should not be bottom of the league should it? There is something toxic in the club, every player and every manager that comes in immediately becomes a worse version of themselves. I want to know why and I think we have got to the point where we need a new CEO with a fresh pair of eyes who can do a full overhaul of the club philosophy. I never thought it was that good a squad to start with. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 26, 2019 20:39:12 GMT
But that squad should not be bottom of the league should it? There is something toxic in the club, every player and every manager that comes in immediately becomes a worse version of themselves. I want to know why and I think we have got to the point where we need a new CEO with a fresh pair of eyes who can do a full overhaul of the club philosophy. I never thought it was that good a squad to start with. But bottom of the league. There is enough quality in there to be doing better surely? |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 26, 2019 20:42:15 GMT
I tend to agree with Nathan, they only play against the 'big' sides which shows a lack of character. But by Nathan saying this it also shows a flaw in his management as he's supposed to be the motivator.
What a fucking shitsandwich!
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 26, 2019 20:42:53 GMT
I'm not at all sure what is going on. Jones gave a resignation speech, and the players started to play well. Two games are won, and it is apparent that Jones is staying. Players go back to under performing. I suspect that the players know that he is a tit, and they want him gone. After his mini Tarzan impersonation it would hardly be surprising if they think he is a tit, so fucking cringe worthy there is a point where passion turns into  |
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Post by cooper67 on Oct 26, 2019 20:44:41 GMT
I never thought it was that good a squad to start with. But bottom of the league. There is enough quality in there to be doing better surely? Of course-unfortunately we are bottom of the league and this squad isn't doing much about moving us away from there. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 26, 2019 20:46:27 GMT
But bottom of the league. There is enough quality in there to be doing better surely? Of course-unfortunately we are bottom of the league and this squad isn't doing much about moving us away from there. But why are all the players who come here becoming worse than they were before? same with the managers. Something is going very wrong somewhere. |
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Post by an348398 on Oct 26, 2019 20:47:33 GMT
They're not underperforming at all. No they’re just fucking shite |
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Post by musik on Oct 26, 2019 20:51:14 GMT
No. They're pretty good actually.
IF playing the right formation.
IF the right players are available.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 26, 2019 20:55:29 GMT
There's something very wrong at the club and I dont think we'll ever find out what but we have players who appear to have been now frozen out who were popular at there previous clubs and no doubt have talent but for some reason now look very average.
Best cases of this are
Smith, Woods, Vokes, Ince, Powell, Duffy, Ward.
All have had decent careers and been relatively succesful at there previous clubs but a number aren't even making the matchday squad.
For one reason or another the club really feels toxic at the moment and these guys look very average.
Cant help feeling that a number of players just arent up for the fight and are just happy to take there wages without even breaking sweat.
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Post by eyeonebob on Oct 26, 2019 20:55:39 GMT
Of course-unfortunately we are bottom of the league and this squad isn't doing much about moving us away from there. But why are all the players who come here becoming worse than they were before? same with the managers. Something is going very wrong somewhere. It most definitely is. Why would players who Jones picks under perform? He has his favourites, that let him down week in week out. It's all down to Jones, the squad don't have a clue from one day to the next what the fuck is going on. And at times neither does he. The whole club is as wrong as fingering the mother in law is. Grim |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2019 21:07:10 GMT
I'm not at all sure what is going on. Jones gave a resignation speech, and the players started to play well. Two games are won, and it is apparent that Jones is staying. Players go back to under performing. I suspect that the players know that he is a tit, and they want him gone. The players are thick fuckers then as all they needed to do was lose to Swansea and he'd most likely have been gone. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 21:08:08 GMT
I'm not at all sure what is going on. Jones gave a resignation speech, and the players started to play well. Two games are won, and it is apparent that Jones is staying. Players go back to under performing. I suspect that the players know that he is a tit, and they want him gone. The players are thick fuckers then as all they needed to do was lose to Swansea and he'd most likely have been gone. They thought Jones was going. They were playing for the next manager. |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 26, 2019 21:15:37 GMT
No, they're just not good enough.
Shawcross, Etebo, N'Diaye, CCV, Batth, BMI, Allen and Vokes (when played right) and Edwards on his day are the only ones I'd keep, the rest can do one.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2019 21:17:12 GMT
The players are thick fuckers then as all they needed to do was lose to Swansea and he'd most likely have been gone. They thought Jones was going. They were playing for the next manager. They're idiots then, if whats been said is true it looked like he was going before the Swans game and quite a few were surprised he was still there, they had one more game to lose and they'd have had their way, allegedly. |
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