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Post by ceejays on Oct 4, 2019 8:30:47 GMT
When NJ came he could have ,this season, fielded this side. Butland Bauer shawcross wimmer pieters. (Or bruno) then in midfield etebo Badou imbula (Allen). Up front Bojan Afobe clucas (ince/McClean). That team would have saved £ms . Don’t tell me we would be bottom with that team. Needed a few egos to be massaged. That would have been manageable imho
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 4, 2019 8:33:19 GMT
If anything that team is somehow worse than the one we've got.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Oct 4, 2019 9:00:46 GMT
Everybody wanted Jones to sack off our underperforming, overpaid, prima donnas. We can't now blame him for doing so. Failing to improve our fortunes with the team he brought in, yes, but not for doing what we all wanted and shipping out our old losers.
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Post by ceejays on Oct 4, 2019 9:12:19 GMT
Part of our demise is our supporters. For 63 years I’ve grown accustomed to their negative shite. So a team with shawcross pieters Badou etebo imbula and Bojan is worse than what we’ve got? Fuck off . You lot would make a vicar swear. Support? You ain’t got a clue
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2019 9:14:05 GMT
For me with the players we've had any point this season, my best team would be:
Butland (pre fuck ups)
Edwards Shawcross Indi Pieters
Badou Etebo
Ince Bojan Verlinden
Afobe
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Oct 4, 2019 9:21:07 GMT
Part of our demise is our supporters. For 63 years I’ve grown accustomed to their negative shite. So a team with shawcross pieters Badou etebo imbula and Bojan is worse than what we’ve got? Fuck off . You lot would make a vicar swear. Support? You ain’t got a clue With respect, this shows the scale of the challenge he has faced. Butland clearly thought he would be sold, Badou and possibly Etebo probably wanted to be sold and were in the African Nations Cup, Imbula never wants to set foot in Stoke again in his life, I guess there was a pressure to get Bojan, Pieters & Bauer off the wage bill and unfortunately Ryan Shawcross broke his leg. Berahino, Wimmer and even Afobe just weren't delivering. He's ended up with an inflated squad and certain players deeply unhappy they are not involved. It's a challenge for any manager. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 4, 2019 9:26:49 GMT
Part of our demise is our supporters. For 63 years I’ve grown accustomed to their negative shite. So a team with shawcross pieters Badou etebo imbula and Bojan is worse than what we’ve got? Fuck off . You lot would make a vicar swear. Support? You ain’t got a clue A team with Bauer, Wimmer, Imbula and Afobe in it is shite, yeah. |
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 4, 2019 9:28:17 GMT
If anything that team is somehow worse than the one we've got. No way !!! A proper manager would have been able to string a good tune out of that team But not a clueless wannabe fixated with the diamond which has turned out to be a piece of coal !! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 10:17:20 GMT
Everybody wanted Jones to sack off our underperforming, overpaid, prima donnas. We can't now blame him for doing so. Failing to improve our fortunes with the team he brought in, yes, but not for doing what we all wanted and shipping out our old losers. If you put it like that then yes we did want to get rid of 3-4 prima donnas. But not everybody wanted to get rid of Pieters, Bojan, Verlinden, Souttar. It's hard to say whether those four could have improved our fortunes, because none of them ever played games in succession under Jones or they never played with the nucleus of the current team - whatever that nucleus is. What we can see is that each of those four players have found regular football and relatively speaking success, as far it is possible to speak in those terms in late Aug--, early October. It's more than a little hard to speak in those terms of the ones left behind/still here. |
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Post by Gods on Oct 4, 2019 10:25:25 GMT
When NJ came he could have ,this season, fielded this side. Butland Bauer shawcross wimmer pieters. (Or bruno) then in midfield etebo Badou imbula (Allen). Up front Bojan Afobe clucas (ince/McClean). That team would have saved £ms . Don’t tell me we would be bottom with that team. Needed a few egos to be massaged. That would have been manageable imho That how I thought/hoped we would line up. I saw the managers job as galvanizing that lot in to a fighting unit. Instead it was seen as ostracising that lot and hiring in 12 new players no one had ever heard of. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 10:30:23 GMT
For me with the players we've had any point this season, my best team would be: Butland (pre fuck ups) Edwards Shawcross Indi Pieters Badou Etebo Ince Bojan Verlinden Afobe Butland fucked up badly in the 8th minute of our first game of the season leading to Hugill's goal for QPR. So that gives you 7 minutes in which he hardly touched the ball to decide he's our best keeper if your premise is pre fuck ups... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 4, 2019 10:39:06 GMT
If anything that team is somehow worse than the one we've got. No way !!! A proper manager would have been able to string a good tune out of that team But not a clueless wannabe fixated with the diamond which has turned out to be a piece of coal !! Multiple managers have failed to get anything out of wasters like Imbula and Wimmer. Afobe isn't a lone striker and is set up as one in that system. Bojan and Clucas are out of position. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 4, 2019 10:40:05 GMT
When NJ came he could have ,this season, fielded this side. Butland Bauer shawcross wimmer pieters. (Or bruno) then in midfield etebo Badou imbula (Allen). Up front Bojan Afobe clucas (ince/McClean). That team would have saved £ms . Don’t tell me we would be bottom with that team. Needed a few egos to be massaged. That would have been manageable imho That how I thought/hoped we would line up. I saw the managers job as galvanizing that lot in to a fighting unit. Instead it was seen as ostracising that lot and hiring in 12 new players no one had ever heard of. Multiple managers have ostracised them though. You can be as inspirational as Henry V reciting the entire script of Dead Poet's Society, dickheads gonna dickhead. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 10:49:28 GMT
That how I thought/hoped we would line up. I saw the managers job as galvanizing that lot in to a fighting unit. Instead it was seen as ostracising that lot and hiring in 12 new players no one had ever heard of. Multiple managers have ostracised them though. You can be as inspirational as Henry V reciting the entire script of Dead Poet's Society, dickheads gonna dickhead. Says the janitor to the manager, dickheads gonna dickhead (sic). Your grammar sucks but you're so right, right? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 4, 2019 10:51:50 GMT
Multiple managers have ostracised them though. You can be as inspirational as Henry V reciting the entire script of Dead Poet's Society, dickheads gonna dickhead. Says the janitor to the manager, dickheads gonna dickhead (sic). Your grammar sucks but you're so right, right? Anyone? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2019 10:58:00 GMT
For me with the players we've had any point this season, my best team would be: Butland (pre fuck ups) Edwards Shawcross Indi Pieters Badou Etebo Ince Bojan Verlinden Afobe Butland fucked up badly in the 8th minute of our first game of the season leading to Hugill's goal for QPR. So that gives you 7 minutes in which he hardly touched the ball to decide he's our best keeper if your premise is pre fuck ups... Or yer know, even me his biggest critic on here would have believed that Butland was the best option pre season. |
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Post by Gods on Oct 4, 2019 11:06:49 GMT
That how I thought/hoped we would line up. I saw the managers job as galvanizing that lot in to a fighting unit. Instead it was seen as ostracising that lot and hiring in 12 new players no one had ever heard of. Multiple managers have ostracised them though. You can be as inspirational as Henry V reciting the entire script of Dead Poet's Society, dickheads gonna dickhead. I know, exactly that, can't we just have one manager with a unification agenda ?! Bygones be bygones... I know you will simply say it can't be done, you may be right but has anyone really tried? |
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Post by AlliG on Oct 4, 2019 11:11:00 GMT
When NJ came he could have ,this season, fielded this side. Butland Bauer shawcross wimmer pieters. (Or bruno) then in midfield etebo Badou imbula (Allen). Up front Bojan Afobe clucas (ince/McClean). That team would have saved £ms . Don’t tell me we would be bottom with that team. Needed a few egos to be massaged. That would have been manageable imho Would a referee have allowed Ryan to play with a plaster cast on his leg? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 4, 2019 11:14:36 GMT
Multiple managers have ostracised them though. You can be as inspirational as Henry V reciting the entire script of Dead Poet's Society, dickheads gonna dickhead. I know, exactly that, can't we just have one manager with a unification agenda ?! Bygones be bygones... I know you will simply say it can't be done, you may be right but has anyone really tried? You would presume so, I can't see the Coates family having £50m worth lying around doing nothing. Imbula has been damned by numerous fellow professionals and has made little to no impact for five different clubs in a row now. What are you proposing we try? |
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Post by skip on Oct 4, 2019 11:19:29 GMT
Says the janitor to the manager, dickheads gonna dickhead (sic). Your grammar sucks but you're so right, right? Anyone? Breakfast Club? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 4, 2019 11:25:20 GMT
Always had him down as more of a Weird Science man myself. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 4, 2019 11:40:44 GMT
For me with the players we've had any point this season, my best team would be: Butland (pre fuck ups) Edwards Shawcross Indi Pieters Badou Etebo Ince Bojan Verlinden Afobe Agreed. Letting Verlinden go on loan was idiocy. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 13:51:16 GMT
Always had him down as more of a Weird Science man myself. Said the janitor to himself, as a huge hollow echo filled the room. |
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Post by skip on Oct 4, 2019 16:21:55 GMT
Always had him down as more of a Weird Science man myself. Love the Weird Science theme tune by Oingo Boingo. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 4, 2019 16:24:08 GMT
Always had him down as more of a Weird Science man myself. Said the janitor to himself, as a huge hollow echo filled the room. Your janitor flavoured gibberish is at least a nice change of pace from your football flavoured gibberish. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Oct 4, 2019 18:13:59 GMT
Butland fucked up badly in the 8th minute of our first game of the season leading to Hugill's goal for QPR. So that gives you 7 minutes in which he hardly touched the ball to decide he's our best keeper if your premise is pre fuck ups... Or yer know, even me his biggest critic on here would have believed that Butland was the best option pre season. plenty wanted begovic and tbh he imo is exactly what we need. An experienced gk like the sort that have served us so well in the past, and ageing experienced, time served ex prem keeper. Butland has escaped a lot of criticisim these last few years because he has England caps (so he must be good). Personally I don't rate him and have said it time and time again. I'd swap him right now for a begovic, sorenson, de goey or Crossley... even gavin ward or mark Prudhoe at this moment. A good solid experienced keeper & CB who barks, calms & organises the backline would make a difference. Frase forster too, another I'd swap Butland for right now, or Joe Hart. |
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Post by wherty on Oct 4, 2019 18:19:04 GMT
When NJ came he could have ,this season, fielded this side. Butland Bauer shawcross wimmer pieters. (Or bruno) then in midfield etebo Badou imbula (Allen). Up front Bojan Afobe clucas (ince/McClean). That team would have saved £ms . Don’t tell me we would be bottom with that team. Needed a few egos to be massaged. That would have been manageable imho Because 5 of them requested to leave. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 11:48:51 GMT
Said the janitor to himself, as a huge hollow echo filled the room. Your janitor flavoured gibberish is at least a nice change of pace from your football flavoured gibberish. I sense you might be looking forward to me going down under for four weeks starting at the end of next week... Just don't pop all your bottles just yet. The Oatcake is universal. |
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