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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 28, 2019 12:40:29 GMT
Uncle Peter, are you awake? It's time to act! Not later, but NOW! Jones OUT!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 28, 2019 12:40:38 GMT
He should have gone in the last one. This season now is really about staying up. If it takes two more games, which we don’t get any points in, but means we can get a better quality manager, then I’ll take that. What happened to Nathan targeting promotion with his new team ???
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 12:40:54 GMT
Fuck it, it's obvious they'd rather keep their money in their back pockets than pay him out, let him carry on, I've given up anyhow.....it's the new Brexit, will we, won't we??? They will lose far more money if we sink with Jones...
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Post by harrysburrow on Sept 28, 2019 12:41:05 GMT
OK so what happens if we get a scrappy win against a side as bad as us, and then get rinsed by Swansea and Fulham? That would still be 5 points and 1 win in 12. The longer we wait the harder it'll be to attract someone half decent. Yep....beating Huddersfield could be far more dangerous than losing. Prolonging the inevitable. Fuck me these are dark days. Fuck. Correct. You have to assume that there's been no decent offers surely? Beating Huddersfield now means literally fuck all.
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Post by dreamtheater on Sept 28, 2019 12:42:20 GMT
This fixation with this manager is perhaps understandable. He set himself up big style in the summer and has not delivered worse, he has signed yet many more players not really looking up to the job at Stoke.
I think also hes been unlucky --very unlucky - in maritime terms he would be seen as a jonah - cursed
My main point is though - the real problems at the club lie elsewhere within the boardroom elite and difficult as it is to do something about -- this is where the real focus of attention should be focussed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 12:42:46 GMT
Huddersfield will be a very organised unit by Tuesday and the thought of mounie vs Edwards fills me with dread. Don't worry. He will rotate the squad, and let's face it, Smith will be highly motivated vs his old team.
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Post by harrysburrow on Sept 28, 2019 12:42:49 GMT
Must have been bad?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 28, 2019 12:43:44 GMT
Yep....beating Huddersfield could be far more dangerous than losing. Prolonging the inevitable. Fuck me these are dark days. Fuck. Excellent and pertinent point. Excusing my french 😉
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Post by mattador78 on Sept 28, 2019 12:44:52 GMT
So if he gets a draw he gets till xmas. But if he wins he gets till the middle of March. Jones out! What have I got to do with it? You might have a soft centre 😉
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 28, 2019 12:44:52 GMT
Are all you people criticising on here saying you can't see in the last two home matches that you haven't seen the improvement because Jones's coaching is starting to take effect? Bring a new man in before Tuesday who changes things we lose a match we should win. Don't underestimate the certain players'part in this shambles. No way do you want a new manager losing a 6 pointer in his first game. We are stuck on the bottom but now the league has settled we are not that far off if we go on a good run under Jones or someone else. Teams above us have stopped picking up points. Did you realise for example that Derby have won 1 match away at Middlesborough on the fr irst day of the season? We are not the only ones in trouble.
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Post by stokief on Sept 28, 2019 12:45:22 GMT
Well, the mind boggles Unless of course they can talk Nath into becoming head Coach alongside somebody that he knows like Hughton(chance'd be a fine thing to get Chris!)! Again, I think in reality this is just a 'stokief wishful-thinking-if Carlsberg did'scenario. We wouldn't be that smart or foreward thinking would we?!
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Post by thestatusquo on Sept 28, 2019 12:45:22 GMT
It’s called paralysis
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 12:45:31 GMT
Fucks sake, so we have a team who have given up rather than a team playing to be noticed by a new potential manager.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 12:47:22 GMT
Are all you people criticising on here saying you can't see in the last two home matches that you haven't seen the improvement because Jones's coaching is starting to take effect? Bring a new man in before Tuesday who changes things we lose a match we should win. Don't underestimate the certain players'part in this shambles. No way do you want a new manager losing a 6 pointer in his first game. We are stuck on the bottom but now the league has settled we are not that far off if we go on a good run under Jones or someone else. Teams above us have stopped picking up points. Did you realise for example that Derby have won 1 match away at Middlesborough on the fr irst day of the season? We are not the only ones in trouble. He’s been here for 10 months and made us worse when we were already dreadful. What are you watching? I’m genuinely baffled as to how anyone can think this is acceptable. We were competent for 30 minutes last night and that’s enough improvement to keep someone who has won 4 games 30 odd?
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 28, 2019 12:49:22 GMT
I don't think any other owners, possibly in the world, would have made this call. Not sure whether it's very strong or incredibly weak. It's incredibly strong. We should be proud of these owners. Even if time were to prove them wrong. I think you're right. No other owners that I can think of would have made that decision. Exactly and if we want to attract someone decent to manage the club they need to feel that they will be given time unlike Lambert and Rowett. Have to say I saw Jon going to his car last night and he didn't seem too despondent or harassed so I didn't expect a sacking any time soon
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 28, 2019 12:49:30 GMT
Are all you people criticising on here saying you can't see in the last two home matches that you haven't seen the improvement because Jones's coaching is starting to take effect? Bring a new man in before Tuesday who changes things we lose a match we should win. Don't underestimate the certain players'part in this shambles. No way do you want a new manager losing a 6 pointer in his first game. We are stuck on the bottom but now the league has settled we are not that far off if we go on a good run under Jones or someone else. Teams above us have stopped picking up points. Did you realise for example that Derby have won 1 match away at Middlesborough on the fr irst day of the season? We are not the only ones in trouble. I expect more than 12 minutes and 38 minutes for performances and Derby won at Huddersfield not Middlesbrough
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 12:50:58 GMT
Are the Coates family becoming part of the problem too? Becoming? Part? They are the problem.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 28, 2019 12:51:42 GMT
How we laughed at the Mackems We are heading for an even worse fall from grace led by a manic bible basher, aided and abetted by a hopeless beancounter, and the runt of the Coates’ litter Denise is not involved directly, but surely the dragging of Stoke - and by inference her company - through the mud must soon make her act in some way She isn't bothered
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 28, 2019 12:52:11 GMT
Are all you people criticising on here saying you can't see in the last two home matches that you haven't seen the improvement because Jones's coaching is starting to take effect? Bring a new man in before Tuesday who changes things we lose a match we should win. Don't underestimate the certain players'part in this shambles. No way do you want a new manager losing a 6 pointer in his first game. We are stuck on the bottom but now the league has settled we are not that far off if we go on a good run under Jones or someone else. Teams above us have stopped picking up points. Did you realise for example that Derby have won 1 match away at Middlesborough on the fr irst day of the season? We are not the only ones in trouble. He’s been here for 10 months and made us worse when we were already dreadful. What are you watching? I’m genuinely baffled as to how anyone can think this is acceptable. We were competent for 30 minutes last night and that’s enough improvement to keep someone who has won 4 games 30 odd? The pressing and aggression and running last night until Jack's blunder was what I was watching. It's the first time I've seen us harry a team to go back to their gk from an attacking position in ages. What were you watching? Just the result?
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 28, 2019 12:53:20 GMT
Are all you people criticising on here saying you can't see in the last two home matches that you haven't seen the improvement because Jones's coaching is starting to take effect? Bring a new man in before Tuesday who changes things we lose a match we should win. Don't underestimate the certain players'part in this shambles. No way do you want a new manager losing a 6 pointer in his first game. We are stuck on the bottom but now the league has settled we are not that far off if we go on a good run under Jones or someone else. Teams above us have stopped picking up points. Did you realise for example that Derby have won 1 match away at Middlesborough on the fr irst day of the season? We are not the only ones in trouble. I expect more than 12 minutes and 38 minutes for performances and Derby won at Huddersfield not Middlesbrough OK that makes their results even worse. Where is their new manager bounce? And 12 minutes until Allen's stupid mistake and 38 minutes for Butland. It's the individuals at fault not the tactics or coaching.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 28, 2019 12:53:26 GMT
He’s been here for 10 months and made us worse when we were already dreadful. What are you watching? I’m genuinely baffled as to how anyone can think this is acceptable. We were competent for 30 minutes last night and that’s enough improvement to keep someone who has won 4 games 30 odd? The pressing and aggression and running last night until Jack's blunder was what I was watching. It's the first time I've seen us harry a team to go back to their gk from an attacking position in ages. What were you watching? Just the result? For 38 minutes I agree but football is a 90 minute game
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 28, 2019 12:54:51 GMT
I expect more than 12 minutes and 38 minutes for performances and Derby won at Huddersfield not Middlesbrough OK that makes their results even worse. Where is their new manager bounce? He will come under pressure just like any manager if their results continue but to be honest I couldn’t careless about them.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 28, 2019 12:57:19 GMT
The pressing and aggression and running last night until Jack's blunder was what I was watching. It's the first time I've seen us harry a team to go back to their gk from an attacking position in ages. What were you watching? Just the result? For 38 minutes I agree but football is a 90 minute game I agree but the players were genuinely deflated by Butland their captain's mistake. It was palpable the disbelief that yet again one of their alleged best players had messed up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 12:58:06 GMT
The coates family are the problem
Jon Coates could lead the club into league 1 , then league 2 , then non league and never even look like getting sacked . If he takes us into non league football , all he will have to worry about is whether to fill his swimming pool with water or champagne . Both options being easily affordable and simply a matter of choice .
He is not accountable to anyone in any way .
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 28, 2019 12:58:43 GMT
For 38 minutes I agree but football is a 90 minute game I agree but the players were genuinely deflated by Butland their captain's mistake. It was palpable the disbelief that yet again one of their alleged best players had messed up. But that’s the type of player Jones and Rowett have bought in,mentally weak
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Post by questionable on Sept 28, 2019 13:01:55 GMT
Whatever is coming our way is fully just and without doubt it’ll get worse.
I listened to the commentary last night expecting to hear choruses of abuse at Jones/Weasel Face but not a whimper.
The idiots running this club don’t seem to react until it’s aimed at them or their stooges.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 13:02:23 GMT
The club deserves everything it gets.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 13:02:59 GMT
He’s been here for 10 months and made us worse when we were already dreadful. What are you watching? I’m genuinely baffled as to how anyone can think this is acceptable. We were competent for 30 minutes last night and that’s enough improvement to keep someone who has won 4 games 30 odd? The pressing and aggression and running last night until Jack's blunder was what I was watching. It's the first time I've seen us harry a team to go back to their gk from an attacking position in ages. What were you watching? Just the result? Then attacking us down the left and doubling up on McClean because they know it’s a weakness... which the manager made of his accord. Bringing on another CB when Badou went off and we were already down rather than try and go for it. Ince offering nothing again but he was yet again selected. Playing with one striker at home. How big their attackers were and yet our two CBs are the worst with their heads and Batth is sat on the bench. I could go on. You’re talking about the most expensively assembled squad in the championship and a manager that bought in 11 players and you’re praising them for not being completely shambolic for part of a game. How do you explain us being worse since Jones arrived and choosing 11 players who weren’t any better than what we had? It’s baffling.
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Post by thehoof on Sept 28, 2019 13:04:46 GMT
Are all you people criticising on here saying you can't see in the last two home matches that you haven't seen the improvement because Jones's coaching is starting to take effect? Bring a new man in before Tuesday who changes things we lose a match we should win. Don't underestimate the certain players'part in this shambles. No way do you want a new manager losing a 6 pointer in his first game. We are stuck on the bottom but now the league has settled we are not that far off if we go on a good run under Jones or someone else. Teams above us have stopped picking up points. Did you realise for example that Derby have won 1 match away at Middlesborough on the fr irst day of the season? We are not the only ones in trouble. He has been coaching the vast majority of these players for 34 games and we have. 4 wins. We have scored 7 goals in 14 away games. We have lost 4 out of 5 home games conceding 3 twice and two in every other game. We are as far off being a good side as it is possible to be- But if you can see improvement, good for you.
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Sept 28, 2019 13:05:53 GMT
It’ll get very ugly on Tuesday if we don’t win We'll win
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