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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 27, 2019 23:05:11 GMT
He won't walk. New manager all but sorted but may not be in for Tuesday. No funds for transfers in Jan - if he sells he can buy. Manager will work with his own crew, appears confident he can get this squad to safety this season. A name? I can understand someone believing he can get to safety with these lot. Jones is right when he says we look a good side, at times!
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Post by Rick Grimes on Sept 27, 2019 23:07:44 GMT
His radio stoke interview was more telling, liam Lawrence and Lee blakeman both agreeing that hes a goner. The telling point in his radio interview was that he he said whatever happened he would use this experience to come back stronger in his career. Hes deffo gone Yep he’s gone, the interview with the club was pretty telling which is on YouTube now. He was asked about the Huddersfield game and what he tells the players and fans for it, his body language and answer all but said he knows he won’t be in charge for the game.
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 27, 2019 23:08:51 GMT
He was the wrong manager at the wrong time. The club had been toxic for two years before he came here and the task was too big for him. If Paul S is right that he's a goner right now then I think it's the best thing for him to go. He's a decent human being and has no doubt tried his best, but often in life your best still isn't good enough. Like he said in the interview, his time here has been a learning experience. One thing he will, hopefully, have learned is that you can't teach rabbits to climb trees, so in his next job he'll sign monkeys instead of of rabbits if climbing trees is his thing.
I wish him well in his next job.
OS.
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Post by Davef on Sept 27, 2019 23:10:30 GMT
He has worked hard, he’s been a bit unlucky, he’s been let down regularly and he’s made umpteen mistakes. It’s hard to do interviews when you have that weighing down on young shoulders. Cut him some slack with the post match stuff. Young shoulders? Since (and including Tony Waddington) only five Stoke City managers were older than Nathan Jones when they were appointed. Asprey, Bates, Boskamp, Hughes and Lambert. Macari and Pulis were both younger and Waddo and Durban were around ten years younger when they were appointed. Bottom line, Nathan Jones isn't good enough.
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Post by march4 on Sept 27, 2019 23:11:27 GMT
He was the wrong manager at the wrong time. The club had been toxic for two years before he came here and the task was too big for him. If Paul S is right that he's a goner right now then I think it's the best thing for him to go. He's a decent human being and has no doubt tried his best, but often in life your best still isn't good enough. Like he said in the interview, his time here has been a learning experience. One thing he will, hopefully, have learned is that you can't teach rabbits to climb trees, so in his next job he'll sign monkeys instead of of rabbits if climbing trees is his thing. I wish him well in his next job. OS. I think most of us wish him well. He was a crazy appointment which was never going to work.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Sept 27, 2019 23:27:59 GMT
He said in his Sky interview: "It will probably fall on me.. well it has fallen on me.. well it might do" Feel for him because you cut Butland's mistakes out alone and we have a much better outlook. Not amazing still, but we'd have continued to draw every other game again like last season He is responsible for ensuring the mental state of his players is strong enough to avoid mistakes. It is a key part of his job. A toddler could of caught the ball that Jack dropped. Clucas was strolling for their second with McLean screaming at him to pick up his man....he didn’t. Tom Edwards should of kicked the ball out for their 3rd. These are all professional footballers who shouldn’t need to be told to do the fucking basics right.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 27, 2019 23:30:58 GMT
He has to go.
But it’s one of them that still doesn’t feel right.
It will always feel like he has unfinished business.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Sept 28, 2019 2:50:42 GMT
A cracked polystyrene man. Who just crumbles, and burns. This is the only thing I've enjoyed from the past 24 hours. You absolute legend.
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Post by Sam on Sept 28, 2019 3:44:37 GMT
He has worked hard, he’s been a bit unlucky, he’s been let down regularly and he’s made umpteen mistakes. It’s hard to do interviews when you have that weighing down on young shoulders. Cut him some slack with the post match stuff. People can't wait to jump down his throat. Every time he speaks people hoping he makes throw away comments they can use to slag him off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 3:51:18 GMT
Can even his biggest fans or people who don’t believe in removing managers willy nilly ( although 35 games is hardly rushed) really think Jones can turn this around? No, but I also believe no one else can. It's the players and the recruitment that are not good enough. We are going down to eventually coming back better.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 28, 2019 4:02:55 GMT
He has worked hard, he’s been a bit unlucky, he’s been let down regularly and he’s made umpteen mistakes. It’s hard to do interviews when you have that weighing down on young shoulders. Cut him some slack with the post match stuff. Young shoulders? Since (and including Tony Waddington) only five Stoke City managers were older than Nathan Jones when they were appointed. Asprey, Bates, Boskamp, Hughes and Lambert. Macari and Pulis were both younger and Waddo and Durban were around ten years younger when they were appointed. Bottom line, Nathan Jones isn't good enough. Inexperienced may have been a better word then. He certainly wasn’t under this sort of media pressure at Luton. I agree the bottom line is he isn’t good enough but watching someone crack up under the spotlight of their failure and picking apart every word of his instant reactions to that failure isn’t a great thing.
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Post by bertiestan on Sept 28, 2019 4:04:02 GMT
That post match interview was horrible to see , you could see the stress and the pain etched in his eyes. Im absolutely gutted for us as supporters but him also...hes not an absolute twat who i'd like to hound out the door n it makes it a bit harder but my number one concern is Stoke City and its just getting worse and its snowballed at an alarming rate and we need someone else to halt it imo...hes the right man at definitely the wrong time and thats said in hindsight as i for one was excited and applauded the appointment. Its just my opinion as i see it now.
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Post by emery1985 on Sept 28, 2019 5:25:38 GMT
He said in his Sky interview: "It will probably fall on me.. well it has fallen on me.. well it might do" Feel for him because you cut Butland's mistakes out alone and we have a much better outlook. Not amazing still, but we'd have continued to draw every other game again like last season Butland really has been shite this season
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 28, 2019 5:46:58 GMT
A cracked polystyrene man. Who just crumbles, and burns. This is the only thing I've enjoyed from the past 24 hours. You absolute legend. I thank you.
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Post by questionable on Sept 28, 2019 6:33:45 GMT
And you can look no further than Jon Coates recruitment policy “ A bloke at work told me”.
Can you see this idiot getting the next appointment right as I can’t
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Post by danceswithclams on Sept 28, 2019 6:45:40 GMT
If he's in charge for the Huddersfield game I'll donate £100 to DLT. The hairy cornflake? Don't give him any cash - he's a twat and almost certainly a nonce. Tony Blackburn is probably a more deserving cause of we're going down the disc jockeys of yesteryear route. Him or 'Ooh' Gary Davies.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 7:13:27 GMT
He was the wrong manager at the wrong time. The club had been toxic for two years before he came here and the task was too big for him. If Paul S is right that he's a goner right now then I think it's the best thing for him to go. He's a decent human being and has no doubt tried his best, but often in life your best still isn't good enough. Like he said in the interview, his time here has been a learning experience. One thing he will, hopefully, have learned is that you can't teach rabbits to climb trees, so in his next job he'll sign monkeys instead of of rabbits if climbing trees is his thing. I wish him well in his next job. OS. I think most of us wish him well. He was a crazy appointment which was never going to work. I wouldn't say it was crazy at all. It was bold and forward thinking. Alas,as per usual the club didn't do their due diligence,they should have brought in the whole Luton crew not just the figurehead and if that wasn't possible they should have looked elsewhere
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 28, 2019 7:36:23 GMT
Really I will be surprised if he’s sacked before Huddersfield... That was his last game managing Stoke City Neddy. Paul any indication on replacement from your source .
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Post by wrighter on Sept 28, 2019 7:40:15 GMT
I like Nathan, i really do, had high hopes when we got him, loved his ambition and his talk, but he is either out of his depth, or its a players revolt
Who knows whats behind the scene.
mind you, im no expert, i thought the same when we got Steve Cotterill, and look what happened there
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Post by Fred Ferret on Sept 28, 2019 8:03:23 GMT
That post match interview was horrible to see , you could see the stress and the pain etched in his eyes. Im absolutely gutted for us as supporters but him also...hes not an absolute twat who i'd like to hound out the door n it makes it a bit harder but my number one concern is Stoke City and its just getting worse and its snowballed at an alarming rate and we need someone else to halt it imo...hes the right man at definitely the wrong time and thats said in hindsight as i for one was excited and applauded the appointment. Its just my opinion as i see it now. 100% agree with that. The results over the 30 odd games are terrible. No other manager would have survived this long, with those stats. And yet, I feel really pissed off that we have reached the point of no return. This guy has worked his wotsits off, to do the right thing. The first 25 minutes last night were remarkable. The players clearly showed that they were playing for him and the performance, for me, felt electric. And then, a big bollock get’s dropped! A crushing and stupid error. The rest is then typical and we effectively fall away. But then we don’t give up and pull it back - but too late. How fucking cruel - for everyone - every player, NJ, the fans and board. Absolutley gutted! Feel for the guy. NJ does not deserve this for all that he has done. I wish him every success in the future if he goes.
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Post by adi on Sept 28, 2019 8:07:18 GMT
They should interview each and every player after the match and let them tell us exactly why they play shit EVERY BASTARD WEEK..... They should ALL- every single one of them, hang their heads in shame I think it’d take too long
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Post by rorystowel on Sept 28, 2019 8:08:00 GMT
That post match interview was horrible to see , you could see the stress and the pain etched in his eyes. Im absolutely gutted for us as supporters but him also...hes not an absolute twat who i'd like to hound out the door n it makes it a bit harder but my number one concern is Stoke City and its just getting worse and its snowballed at an alarming rate and we need someone else to halt it imo...hes the right man at definitely the wrong time and thats said in hindsight as i for one was excited and applauded the appointment. Its just my opinion as i see it now. 100% agree with that. The results over the 30 odd games are terrible. No other manager would have survived this long, with those stats. And yet, I feel really pissed off that we have reached the point of no return. This guy has worked his wotsits off, to do the right thing. The first 25 minutes last night were remarkable. The players clearly showed that they were playing for him and the performance, for me, felt electric. And then, a big bollock get’s dropped! A crushing and stupid error. The rest is then typical and we effectively fall away. But then we don’t give up and pull it back - but too late. How fucking cruel - for everyone - every player, NJ, the fans and board. Absolutley gutted! Feel for the guy. NJ does not deserve this for all that he has done. I wish him every success in the future if he goes. It struck me last night - were they playing for Jones, or for the TV cameras? Maybe a bit harsh but there’s no doubt that the first 30 minutes was easily the most intensive, positive passage of play I’ve seen in ages from us.
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Post by houstonsteve on Sept 28, 2019 8:17:28 GMT
And you can look no further than Jon Coates recruitment policy “ A bloke at work told me”. Can you see this idiot getting the next appointment right as I can’t A "bloke at work" who Jon Coates said later in the same interview was let go from Bet365 for not being good enough (at whatever they did). You could not make it up. What the "F" kind of process is that? Incompetent leadership is what it is. So its only down from here I am afraid cause I doubt Coates senior is sacking Coates junior.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 28, 2019 8:24:33 GMT
100% agree with that. The results over the 30 odd games are terrible. No other manager would have survived this long, with those stats. And yet, I feel really pissed off that we have reached the point of no return. This guy has worked his wotsits off, to do the right thing. The first 25 minutes last night were remarkable. The players clearly showed that they were playing for him and the performance, for me, felt electric. And then, a big bollock get’s dropped! A crushing and stupid error. The rest is then typical and we effectively fall away. But then we don’t give up and pull it back - but too late. How fucking cruel - for everyone - every player, NJ, the fans and board. Absolutley gutted! Feel for the guy. NJ does not deserve this for all that he has done. I wish him every success in the future if he goes. It struck me last night - were they playing for Jones, or for the TV cameras? Maybe a bit harsh but there’s no doubt that the first 30 minutes was easily the most intensive, positive passage of play I’ve seen in ages from us. Yes, I think there’s some validity to that, remember last season as well when some of the better performances were in front of the cameras
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Post by harrysburrow on Sept 28, 2019 8:30:22 GMT
The lordeth hath passed upon to thine the collection bowl, one will duly find thine P45 perched upon its edge. Now fuck off. You should have typed this in Rockwell or Clarendon mate - or maybe a nice Old English style font 😂😂👍
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Post by wherty on Sept 28, 2019 8:31:24 GMT
Nige: You can't buy a win. Nath: If I could I would, I have enough money! Maybe being too sensitive at a bad joke but WTF! He was referring to the money available at the club, not his own financial wealth.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 28, 2019 8:38:48 GMT
Nige: You can't buy a win. Nath: If I could I would, I have enough money! Maybe being too sensitive at a bad joke but WTF! He was referring to the money available at the club, not his own financial wealth. 16.31 www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07pgrh3"If I could I would, I've got enough money!" I not we!
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Post by neddy on Sept 28, 2019 8:40:25 GMT
He was referring to the money available at the club, not his own financial wealth. 16.31 www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07pgrh3"If I could I would, I've got enough money!" I not we! Anybody got a link to last nights radio stoke interview....just watched the official website one and didn’t think he was definitely going?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 12:00:53 GMT
Forget the past Nathan. You’re only as good as our last result. Just go! Wow, on this ruling then every manager would be sacked after a loss. Nonsense. Complete and utter nonsense. NJ will have a good career somewhere, it’s very unlikely to be here but a win on Tuesday and he can still turn this around, a loss and I think he’ll be on his merry way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 12:17:44 GMT
He has worked hard, he’s been a bit unlucky, he’s been let down regularly and he’s made umpteen mistakes. It’s hard to do interviews when you have that weighing down on young shoulders. Cut him some slack with the post match stuff. I disagree .. he is probably a nice bloke .. but they are his players .. and they are not good enough His star signing can't keep Tom Edwards out of the side He sold pieters and signed Ward !! He plays the worst goalie in the entire league ( butland ) week in week out , not matter how bad he is , and he is awful ! He signed a goalie , we have never seen ! He didn't even bother signing a pacey striker , even though even the club cat knows we need one
Lambert was unlucky( ish ) with someone else's players , and good luck to him at Ipswich .
Nj has signed about ten players , and they are not good enough .
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