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Post by philm87 on Sept 25, 2019 14:13:16 GMT
Diouf being utterly terrible at controlling a football and finishing was one of the reasons we went down
Then he failed to get in the team under both Rowett and Jones. Why would they not want to use him at all if he was good enough? That just makes no sense
Then we offered him to anyone who would take him and nobody wanted him.
Yeah an ageing crocked Mame Diouf will save us.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 25, 2019 14:15:45 GMT
Our other strikers could only daydream about achieving a career like Mame's.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Sept 25, 2019 14:20:46 GMT
People were saying the same last season, then he came on and could barely run 100 metres at a light jog before basically vomiting. He had something to prove then and all he proved was that he wasn't bothering to stay in shape. Real shame because he was treated like shit in the Hughes era by being shunted at full-back. This is probably becoming the new version of "he was never the same after his injuries". Lies that get repeated so often they somehow become truth in some people's minds. The way I remember it Mame had been injured and was slowly coming back to fitness. For whatever reason he was placed on the bench and told he would be given 10-15 minutes to get into shape. However somebody was injured early in the game and suddenly the unfit player was on to play for almost the whole game. He very clearly was unfit and possibly staged a bit of an on pitch demonstration against the manager who had broken his promise (sounds familiar?). It's a very effective way for a mindgame machivellian manager to show everyone how useless the player is. Having seen Jones in other situations I would certainly not put this beyond him. I don't think Diouf was "treated like shit in the Hughes era". He became an emergency defender in one game and did very well. Then when Hughes introduced his wingbacksystem Diouf was asked again to play rwb. It was not a success but he gave it his best and was eventually restored to play further upfield. Diouf himself said he really tried but couldn't understand why he was constantly asked to play outwide: “You take me to play as a striker and just after you stick me on the wing. What does that mean?” That doesn't really sound like a happy bunny. He played a lot of the Villa game and naturally looked sluggish after only just coming on, but that wasn't his only cameo he came on 5-7 games towards the back end of that year home and away where he genuinely could scarcely run. The game that sticks out is Sheffield Wednesday when he came on for the last 20 minutes and running into Batth to stop him scoring a late winner. I'm not basing this just on one game I'm basing it on a few including some away games where he looked physically shot despite only being on for a few minutes. He was also not selected after having been on compassionate leave in January, rather than being injured which this article in the Sentinel alludes to: www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-mame-diouf-future-2569786 In that article he doesn't get why he's not playing upon returning. Two days later he makes his Villa appearance where he has to play for a longer time than he probably anticipated because of Vokes' injury but scarcely makes a case for himself. So he complains about not playing, gets played but then it's Jones playing mindgames? So where are the "lies" I am spreading? It would seem you've convinced yourself of something that isn't true rather than the other way around.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 15:41:20 GMT
Should get Miami Vice onto our owners', cos they're on drugs, putting up with this shower!
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Post by harrysburrow on Sept 25, 2019 15:43:41 GMT
He couldn't get his head round the offside rule before VAR - he's got bob hope now?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 15:45:04 GMT
Diouf and Ngoy up front.
Get it done Nathan lad......
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Post by questionable on Sept 25, 2019 15:46:35 GMT
He’s a terrible player and another prime example of how we’ve collapsed as a club “shite player, give him an extension” and now we’re stuck with him.
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Post by dreamtheater on Sept 25, 2019 16:42:52 GMT
Having read all this :- Id still throw him ( Miami) in - instead of the immobile, moribund goal shy lummocks, nare do wells and, never ever will do wells, we curently display with a breathtaking regularity and total impotence.
Goalscorers score goals in bad teams too - so please, dont give me that shyte
(this excludes Gregory and the untried as yet Hogan by the way)
as I said earlier
how on earth could it be worse ?
cat amongst pigeons - point made to incumbent useless twonks, pride swallowed - Id still throw him in.
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Post by superalexneil on Sept 25, 2019 16:46:31 GMT
Oh dear oh dear
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Post by dreamtheater on Sept 25, 2019 16:48:34 GMT
yep - dear oh dear -- he brought Badou back in from the cold ?
why not try this ?
at least hes ( Diouf) got some pedigree, better than the pub teams others have come from
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Post by dreamtheater on Sept 25, 2019 16:56:26 GMT
He is shit, should never play again err --- UMMM --- and I think you could level that accusation at pretty much entire squad presently --to be fair
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 18:49:45 GMT
This is probably becoming the new version of "he was never the same after his injuries". Lies that get repeated so often they somehow become truth in some people's minds. The way I remember it Mame had been injured and was slowly coming back to fitness. For whatever reason he was placed on the bench and told he would be given 10-15 minutes to get into shape. However somebody was injured early in the game and suddenly the unfit player was on to play for almost the whole game. He very clearly was unfit and possibly staged a bit of an on pitch demonstration against the manager who had broken his promise (sounds familiar?). It's a very effective way for a mindgame machivellian manager to show everyone how useless the player is. Having seen Jones in other situations I would certainly not put this beyond him. I don't think Diouf was "treated like shit in the Hughes era". He became an emergency defender in one game and did very well. Then when Hughes introduced his wingbacksystem Diouf was asked again to play rwb. It was not a success but he gave it his best and was eventually restored to play further upfield. Diouf himself said he really tried but couldn't understand why he was constantly asked to play outwide: “You take me to play as a striker and just after you stick me on the wing. What does that mean?” That doesn't really sound like a happy bunny. He played a lot of the Villa game and naturally looked sluggish after only just coming on, but that wasn't his only cameo he came on 5-7 games towards the back end of that year home and away where he genuinely could scarcely run. The game that sticks out is Sheffield Wednesday when he came on for the last 20 minutes and running into Batth to stop him scoring a late winner. I'm not basing this just on one game I'm basing it on a few including some away games where he looked physically shot despite only being on for a few minutes. He was also not selected after having been on compassionate leave in January, rather than being injured which this article in the Sentinel alludes to: www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-mame-diouf-future-2569786 In that article he doesn't get why he's not playing upon returning. Two days later he makes his Villa appearance where he has to play for a longer time than he probably anticipated because of Vokes' injury but scarcely makes a case for himself. So he complains about not playing, gets played but then it's Jones playing mindgames? So where are the "lies" I am spreading? It would seem you've convinced yourself of something that isn't true rather than the other way around. I watched that game and Diouf was not vomiting on the pitch. That's a complete fabrication on your part, i.e. a lie.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 25, 2019 18:59:29 GMT
Id start him Friday night up front Id say 'there you go son - show these non league tossers representing us presently - you are better than them' could we possibly do any worse ? I cannot imagine he at least, wouldn't have something to prove ? Did you see him the last time he played, he was shocking.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Sept 25, 2019 19:01:10 GMT
Id start him Friday night up front Id say 'there you go son - show these non league tossers representing us presently - you are better than them' could we possibly do any worse ? I cannot imagine he at least, wouldn't have something to prove ? Are you high?
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Post by serpico on Sept 25, 2019 19:01:58 GMT
couldn't do much harm, could it ?
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Post by stantheman on Sept 25, 2019 19:50:37 GMT
Vokes or Diouf? The clap or crabs Same difference
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Sept 25, 2019 20:18:04 GMT
Diouf himself said he really tried but couldn't understand why he was constantly asked to play outwide: “You take me to play as a striker and just after you stick me on the wing. What does that mean?” That doesn't really sound like a happy bunny. He played a lot of the Villa game and naturally looked sluggish after only just coming on, but that wasn't his only cameo he came on 5-7 games towards the back end of that year home and away where he genuinely could scarcely run. The game that sticks out is Sheffield Wednesday when he came on for the last 20 minutes and running into Batth to stop him scoring a late winner. I'm not basing this just on one game I'm basing it on a few including some away games where he looked physically shot despite only being on for a few minutes. He was also not selected after having been on compassionate leave in January, rather than being injured which this article in the Sentinel alludes to: www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-mame-diouf-future-2569786 In that article he doesn't get why he's not playing upon returning. Two days later he makes his Villa appearance where he has to play for a longer time than he probably anticipated because of Vokes' injury but scarcely makes a case for himself. So he complains about not playing, gets played but then it's Jones playing mindgames? So where are the "lies" I am spreading? It would seem you've convinced yourself of something that isn't true rather than the other way around. I watched that game and Diouf was not vomiting on the pitch. That's a complete fabrication on your part, i.e. a lie. It was a figure of speech. Like how players don’t literally blow out of their arses when they’re tired. Or players performing badly don’t literally get hung drawn and quartered. You can’t accuse people of lying when you’re coming out saying Diouf (who wasn’t recovering from an injury as you recalled) playing (after asking to feature) was a mind game by Jones to prove how shit he was. Hence why I presume you’ve completely ignored the content of my second post which completely dispels the notion Jones took a player recovering from injury and deliberately set him up to fail. He then gave the player further cameos to stake a claim after the Villa match in question which he failed to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 20:18:59 GMT
When does the next series of Mame Vice start then?
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 25, 2019 20:23:13 GMT
I take it you have forgotten his little comeback cameo last season? He looked like someone who had won a raffle and been plucked out of the crowd. Footballer my arse. On that judgement I really can't see why he isn't one of Nathan's first choices. If he was playing for someone else I'm sure Nathan would offer him a contract.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 25, 2019 20:25:08 GMT
Fuck me, whilst we're at it lets bring back Ade Akinbiyi! He is probably fitter, and would certainly show more commitment than most of Jones' favourites.
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Post by dreamtheater on Sept 25, 2019 22:47:34 GMT
When does the next series of Mame Vice start then? Like I said, Friday nite would be a good time to watch it again Crockett and Tubbs ride again yes hes Diouf - has had some disasterous misses that may well have caused us to lose our premier status that open goalheader last home game or two in the prem - harder to miss ? ? BUT hes got to be better than the ones getting picked right now ? surely to god ? ( Nathan?)
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Post by timberdick on Sept 25, 2019 23:57:50 GMT
Lol how many times does he have to prove that he’s not good enough for this league.......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 6:53:49 GMT
I wouldn’t ever give Diouf the shirt again. He’s a dreadful player with literally no redeeming features - he’s not even fast anymore.
Is he still getting paid?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 26, 2019 7:42:46 GMT
I'd start him as RWB, he's better than the other 2.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 8:32:54 GMT
Mame, Mame, I'd walk a million miles, For one of your goals, Oh! Mame. Sorry folks, I just couldn't resist. I think he's shot, by the way!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 26, 2019 8:36:09 GMT
Trouble is Diouf isn't a very good striker,been better than the other strikers at the club isn't anything to boast about,not when they are a 2/10 and he is a 3/10.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 11:29:01 GMT
Lovable bloke that he is, I never rated him. He at least tried though! Suppose he had his moments! Finished as far as I'm concerned!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 14:08:24 GMT
I watched that game and Diouf was not vomiting on the pitch. That's a complete fabrication on your part, i.e. a lie. It was a figure of speech. Like how players don’t literally blow out of their arses when they’re tired. Or players performing badly don’t literally get hung drawn and quartered. You can’t accuse people of lying when you’re coming out saying Diouf (who wasn’t recovering from an injury as you recalled) playing (after asking to feature) was a mind game by Jones to prove how shit he was. Hence why I presume you’ve completely ignored the content of my second post which completely dispels the notion Jones took a player recovering from injury and deliberately set him up to fail. He then gave the player further cameos to stake a claim after the Villa match in question which he failed to do. You also chose to ignore much of what I say, but my final comment is that you don't get to stake a claim by playing 6 minute cameos.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Sept 26, 2019 14:27:30 GMT
It was a figure of speech. Like how players don’t literally blow out of their arses when they’re tired. Or players performing badly don’t literally get hung drawn and quartered. You can’t accuse people of lying when you’re coming out saying Diouf (who wasn’t recovering from an injury as you recalled) playing (after asking to feature) was a mind game by Jones to prove how shit he was. Hence why I presume you’ve completely ignored the content of my second post which completely dispels the notion Jones took a player recovering from injury and deliberately set him up to fail. He then gave the player further cameos to stake a claim after the Villa match in question which he failed to do. You also chose to ignore much of what I say, but my final comment is that you don't get to stake a claim by playing 6 minute cameos. I addressed every part of your posts from the fact he wasn't coming back from injury to the fact he was getting frustrated during the Hughes era and the fact that Jones didn't just throw him on vindictively to show him up it came after Diouf himself questioned why he hasn't playing. And you're right, you don't stake a claim playing 6 minute cameos, that's probably why Jones gave him a 73 minute one against Villa, a 45 minute one against Derby and a 25 minute one against Sheffield Wednesday in addition to those other cameos.
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Post by mamasgloves on Sept 26, 2019 14:30:33 GMT
Taking the piss?! The same Mame Diouf where a ball gets played to him and bounces off him ? The same Mame Diouf who throws his arms up in the air when he makes yet another fuck up and whines for about 10 minutes after ? The only position Mame Diouf has ever remotely looked like a footballer, is the right wing back position. Never do I wanna see him up top again. The same Mame Diouf who holds the record for highest number of league goals in a single premier league season despite playing much of it out wide
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