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Post by bathstoke on Sept 22, 2019 7:51:10 GMT
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 22, 2019 10:28:15 GMT
I watched the trailer on this, should make interesting viewing.One women mentioned that cheap houses were a good thing about the area,well Im sorry but cheap housing is a reflection on the poor economic power of the area,certainly nothing to be proud of.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Sept 22, 2019 11:29:52 GMT
We're a shit hole with no focal point,a fake city really, 6 towns jumbled together.
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 22, 2019 13:59:23 GMT
We're a shit hole with no focal point,a fake city really, 6 towns jumbled together. Yes, I saw the other week that the government were dishing out a pitiful amount of money for the regeneration of the high street & Stoke got awarded. Now I don’t know whether the meant Stoke or Stoke On Trent, but if the pitiful amount had to be split 6 ways then the administration fees would swallow the grant. Keep someone in work I suppose... |
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Post by cerebralstokie on Sept 22, 2019 14:14:50 GMT
I have previously posted that Stoke on Trent should have a tram system. As a linear city with the bed of the old loop line providing a possible basis for this in the northern part of the city I would have thought this a feasible proposition. My thoughts were strengthened when one commentator said the it took longer to get from Longton to Tunstall one the bus than it took to get from Stoke to London on the train. The city was devastated in the 80's when mining, pots and steel were wiped out. There may have been perfectly valid economic reasons for this, e.g. the cost of mining coal in the U.K. was way above world prices but if this happens, Government also has a responsibility, in my view, to give as much support as possible to revive the economy in places like Stoke with infrastructure projects and incentives to attract businesses to the area given our geographical advantages within the U.K. A Garden Festival was not the answer.
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Post by Roland the Thompson Gunner on Sept 22, 2019 14:25:42 GMT
Maybe people should have remembered that the bulk of 'government' investment in Stoke-on-Trent and other similar areas where industry has vanished came from the EU's Structural and Investment Funds, including funding for the Stoke-on-Trent and Staffordshire Enterprise Partnership. This money may or may not have been spent sensibly, but at least it was provided. If you think a Tory government is going to spend similar funds as came from the EU, you must be as dumb as all the other Brexiteers. Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Sept 22, 2019 15:37:16 GMT
Maybe people should have remembered that the bulk of 'government' investment in Stoke-on-Trent and other similar areas where industry has vanished came from the EU's Structural and Investment Funds, including funding for the Stoke-on-Trent and Staffordshire Enterprise Partnership. This money may or may not have been spent sensibly, but at least it was provided. If you think a Tory government is going to spend similar funds as came from the EU, you must be as dumb as all the other Brexiteers. Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face. I am not sure whether your observations are a response to my comments above, but to put the record straight, I voted remain (not popular in this neck of the woods) largely because I could foresee the consequences of voting to leave. I don't think your political arguments are right as the Tories, having won Stoke-on-Trent South will be targeting Ruth Smeeth in Stoke-on Trent North next time round. I still maintain that, as a matter of principle, if a Government pursues policies which lead to the destruction of industries and communities they have a responsibility to do whatever is in their power to mitigate those effects if they can. Others may have views on whether those in power locally have done enough to help the area renew itself but that is a different matter. |
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Post by zerps on Sept 22, 2019 15:50:26 GMT
All industry dissolved and we just accepted it.
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Post by Boothen on Sept 22, 2019 17:02:49 GMT
I used to work in the council department that was tasked with sourcing and allocating monies from the European Social Fund (ESF) and you'd be surprised at how little of the money awarded actually found it's way into anything worthwhile for the city. Maybe times have changed since then (the mid to late 90s) but I very much doubt it considering the rampant, and blatantly fucking obvious, corruption that is present in the city today.
That said, Stoke-on-Trent may be a shithole, but it's my shithole and I fucking love the place.
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Post by lordb on Sept 22, 2019 17:34:37 GMT
I have previously posted that Stoke on Trent should have a tram system. As a linear city with the bed of the old loop line providing a possible basis for this in the northern part of the city I would have thought this a feasible proposition. My thoughts were strengthened when one commentator said the it took longer to get from Longton to Tunstall one the bus than it took to get from Stoke to London on the train. The city was devastated in the 80's when mining, pots and steel were wiped out. There may have been perfectly valid economic reasons for this, e.g. the cost of mining coal in the U.K. was way above world prices but if this happens, Government also has a responsibility, in my view, to give as much support as possible to revive the economy in places like Stoke with infrastructure projects and incentives to attract businesses to the area given our geographical advantages within the U.K. A Garden Festival was not the answer. That would require investment, something which no government has shown interest in (in Stoke-On-Trent) literally for our entire history. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 22, 2019 17:35:31 GMT
All industry dissolved and we just accepted it. After the miners strike, yes we did Working Class was cowed by that defeat. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 22, 2019 21:05:13 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Sept 22, 2019 22:04:57 GMT
Knew about them but didn't know about Dot Griffiths, what a remarkable woman. |
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 23, 2019 4:05:11 GMT
Young talking about stoke link |
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 23, 2019 6:57:59 GMT
Stoke is the dumping ground to a majority of Asylum Seekers
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 23, 2019 7:06:18 GMT
Young talking about stoke link Nevermind tuna & apple! Cheese on a sausage & bean oatcake. That’s wrong! |
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Post by lordb on Sept 23, 2019 7:30:01 GMT
Stoke is the dumping ground to a majority of Asylum Seekers 'majority' Simply incorrect Dumping ground, yes. Asylum seekers, some but nowhere near a majority. All sorts of people. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 23, 2019 7:45:59 GMT
Maybe people should have remembered that the bulk of 'government' investment in Stoke-on-Trent and other similar areas where industry has vanished came from the EU's Structural and Investment Funds, including funding for the Stoke-on-Trent and Staffordshire Enterprise Partnership. This money may or may not have been spent sensibly, but at least it was provided. If you think a Tory government is going to spend similar funds as came from the EU, you must be as dumb as all the other Brexiteers. Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face. They will spend millions after the next election to show support for there two Tory MPs |
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 23, 2019 8:20:09 GMT
Stoke is the dumping ground to a majority of Asylum Seekers 40 years of gradual decline and people blame immigrants.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 8:30:11 GMT
Stoke is the dumping ground to a majority of Asylum Seekers 40 years of gradual decline and people blame immigrants. I'm not sure whether that was the aim of his post, but in a crude way he is absolutely right. Areas like Stoke-on-Trent get a disproportionate amount of Asylum Seekers due to the low cost of housing, which puts extra strain on public services/budgets. There should be a fair distribution over the UK including some of the more affluent areas to ensure that everyone takes their share of responsibility. That said I would hope people realise its not the fault of the refugee/asylum seeker either and treat them accordingly....... |
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 23, 2019 12:08:37 GMT
40 years of gradual decline and people blame immigrants. I'm not sure whether that was the aim of his post, but in a crude way he is absolutely right. Areas like Stoke-on-Trent get a disproportionate amount of Asylum Seekers due to the low cost of housing, which puts extra strain on public services/budgets. There should be a fair distribution over the UK including some of the more affluent areas to ensure that everyone takes their share of responsibility. That said I would hope people realise its not the fault of the refugee/asylum seeker either and treat them accordingly....... The belief that immigration has held down wages here is certainly a commonly-held view, especially among those who voted for Brexit. Stoke-on-Trent has low wages, when compared to other cities and the country as a whole. According to the Office for National Statistics, the average full-time weekly wage in the Potteries is £497, compared the UK average of £569. In similarly-sized Derby it is £671. But are Stoke-on-Trent’s poor wages due to high levels of immigration? This might be a valid explanation if Stoke-on-Trent did have high levels of immigration, but the figures demonstrate that this simply isn’t the case. Stoke-on-Trent’s non-UK born population makes up just 10.7 per cent of the total – a third lower than the UK’s 15.6 per cent. Derby, with its much higher wages, has a non-UK born population of 15.2 per cent. Workers in Stoke-on-Trent are typically less skilled, and have fewer qualifications, than the UK average. The city has a preponderance of low-skill, low-pay jobs, but a relative lack of skilled and professional jobs. While North Staffordshire has two big universities, graduates have a tendency to leave the area once they have completed their studies in order to find suitable work. This means that children growing up here have fewer positive role models to inspire them in their future careers. Stoke-on-Trent’s low wages has been a long-standing problem, predating the recent surge in European migration by several decades. The city’s population was actually shrinking for much of the 20th century – outward rather than inward migration was the problem – although it has now started to grow again. Like the rest of the country, Stoke-on-Trent has seen a rise in low-skill migration as a result of freedom of movement . But if this is a problem, it’s a symptom, not the cause of Stoke-on-Trent’s low-wage economy. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 23, 2019 12:49:53 GMT
40 years of gradual decline and people blame immigrants. I'm not sure whether that was the aim of his post, but in a crude way he is absolutely right. Areas like Stoke-on-Trent get a disproportionate amount of Asylum Seekers due to the low cost of housing, which puts extra strain on public services/budgets. There should be a fair distribution over the UK including some of the more affluent areas to ensure that everyone takes their share of responsibility. That said I would hope people realise its not the fault of the refugee/asylum seeker either and treat them accordingly....... Spot on mate |
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 23, 2019 12:51:47 GMT
I'm not sure whether that was the aim of his post, but in a crude way he is absolutely right. Areas like Stoke-on-Trent get a disproportionate amount of Asylum Seekers due to the low cost of housing, which puts extra strain on public services/budgets. There should be a fair distribution over the UK including some of the more affluent areas to ensure that everyone takes their share of responsibility. That said I would hope people realise its not the fault of the refugee/asylum seeker either and treat them accordingly....... The belief that immigration has held down wages here is certainly a commonly-held view, especially among those who voted for Brexit. Stoke-on-Trent has low wages, when compared to other cities and the country as a whole. According to the Office for National Statistics, the average full-time weekly wage in the Potteries is £497, compared the UK average of £569. In similarly-sized Derby it is £671. But are Stoke-on-Trent’s poor wages due to high levels of immigration? This might be a valid explanation if Stoke-on-Trent did have high levels of immigration, but the figures demonstrate that this simply isn’t the case. Stoke-on-Trent’s non-UK born population makes up just 10.7 per cent of the total – a third lower than the UK’s 15.6 per cent. Derby, with its much higher wages, has a non-UK born population of 15.2 per cent. Workers in Stoke-on-Trent are typically less skilled, and have fewer qualifications, than the UK average. The city has a preponderance of low-skill, low-pay jobs, but a relative lack of skilled and professional jobs. While North Staffordshire has two big universities, graduates have a tendency to leave the area once they have completed their studies in order to find suitable work. This means that children growing up here have fewer positive role models to inspire them in their future careers. Stoke-on-Trent’s low wages has been a long-standing problem, predating the recent surge in European migration by several decades. The city’s population was actually shrinking for much of the 20th century – outward rather than inward migration was the problem – although it has now started to grow again. Like the rest of the country, Stoke-on-Trent has seen a rise in low-skill migration as a result of freedom of movement . But if this is a problem, it’s a symptom, not the cause of Stoke-on-Trent’s low-wage economy. Think people are just fed up with it all , that’s why Stoke on Trent was the Brexit Capital , thousands of voters can’t be wrong |
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Post by shangamuzo on Sept 23, 2019 13:04:56 GMT
We're a shit hole with no focal point,a fake city really, 6 towns jumbled together. Who thought up Hanley as the City centre ? Perched on a hill, one and a half miles from the main Railway station and smack in the middle of a Victorian road network ? What a fucking useless disaster Stoke-on-Trent now is. |
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 23, 2019 13:09:43 GMT
We're a shit hole with no focal point,a fake city really, 6 towns jumbled together. Who thought up Hanley as the City centre ? Perched on a hill, one and a half miles from the main Railway station and smack in the middle of a Victorian road network ? What a fucking useless disaster Stoke-on-Trent now is. It has always been the commercial centre of the city but Stoke town was centre of government and authority. |
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Post by shangamuzo on Sept 23, 2019 13:21:48 GMT
Who thought up Hanley as the City centre ? Perched on a hill, one and a half miles from the main Railway station and smack in the middle of a Victorian road network ? What a fucking useless disaster Stoke-on-Trent now is. It has always been the commercial centre of the city but Stoke town was centre of government and authority. Stoke itself has the title of our City, not Hanley or any of the other Towns. It's flat it has our main Railway station and is the closest to the motorway. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 15:51:09 GMT
Simon McCoy from the BBC News Channel will be there with Becky on Thursday, he is a good laugh & has just said that anyone who wants to pop along and say Hello can do, he will be trying out Oatcakes too..
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Post by Boothen on Sept 23, 2019 22:53:08 GMT
Stoke is the dumping ground to a majority of Asylum Seekers 40 years of gradual decline and people blame immigrants. To be fair, up until they started dumping all these immigrants into my area the streets were clean. Now they resemble a rubbish dump with foreigners just fly tipping all manner of shit all over the place. It got so bad not long back that we even had visits from the council and numerous letters pushed through the door warning us of fines for fly-tipping, yet when the council were asked why they were only targeting the English speakers rather than going after the actual culprits people were accused of racism. So yeah, there's that... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 1:40:34 GMT
40 years of gradual decline and people blame immigrants. To be fair, up until they started dumping all these immigrants into my area the streets were clean. Now they resemble a rubbish dump with foreigners just fly tipping all manner of shit all over the place. It got so bad not long back that we even had visits from the council and numerous letters pushed through the door warning us of fines for fly-tipping, yet when the council were asked why they were only targeting the English speakers rather than going after the actual culprits people were accused of racism. So yeah, there's that... Be quiet you filthy nazi cunt. The BBC have spoken and they've instructed us that immigration is all amazing, so your first hand experiences that contradict the narrative are nothing but poison...I mean who the fuck do you even think you are? |
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Post by zerps on Sept 24, 2019 5:53:15 GMT
Some double agents in here for sure.
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