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Post by senojbor on Aug 31, 2019 17:30:40 GMT
I don’t think the board really know what to do. Nor really care.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 31, 2019 17:31:18 GMT
Has Jones got the bottle to resign? He's a Christian not an Idiot,(Money) "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 31, 2019 17:32:04 GMT
What’s all the fuss about!!! Pt.2,the sequal.
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Aug 31, 2019 17:32:10 GMT
Hughton would be the perfect replacement. Knows the league and has the previous on his CV of getting teams up out of this division.
Alas I think our stock has fallen so far now that we wouldn't even be on his radar currently!!! We need to go foreign, see Wolves and Norwich!
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Post by future100 on Aug 31, 2019 17:36:59 GMT
I don’t think the board really know what to do. Nor really care. I would imagine anyone running a multi million pound business that is in danger of losing a massive amount of it's value would care.
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Post by adamsson on Aug 31, 2019 18:04:47 GMT
I would imagine anyone running a multi million pound business that is in danger of losing a massive amount of it's value would care. When you are running a multi billion pound business stoke city are a rounding error.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 31, 2019 18:23:20 GMT
The club needs a new direction and has done for about 5 years. They're tried with Jones but it's way above his head where the changes need to be made.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 19:29:00 GMT
I have seen Jon Coates talking for the first time today - that vid posted on here re the Q&A thing.
How can JC hold the positions that he does, with Bet365 and SCFC? The man struggles to put a coherent sentence together. Whatever you think about Scholes, he can at least express his ideas/thoughts.
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Post by march4 on Aug 31, 2019 19:49:56 GMT
If we haven’t already sounded out Hughton, I would be very surprised. There is only one man for the job and his first name is Tony and his second name is Pulis.
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Post by 'i'mnaked' on Aug 31, 2019 20:01:33 GMT
If we haven’t already sounded out Hughton, I would be very surprised. There is only one man for the job and his first name is Tony and his second name is Pulis. I agree.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 31, 2019 20:27:12 GMT
Sacking him in the face of supporter dissatisfaction would be easy. Sticking by their manager would take more bottle.
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 31, 2019 21:51:06 GMT
I just can't see where our first win of the season is coming from, something needs to change. I desperately wanted Jones to succeed but it's fucking woeful football. Gouranga. Very worried given the next 2 months fixtures, seriously need to cut him off, just hope we can so done in who finally inspires a new manager bounce
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2019 21:55:08 GMT
Sacking him in the face of supporter dissatisfaction would be easy. Sticking by their manager would take more bottle. Oh dear. tHe only reason they won't sack him is to save their own sorry faces. Jones has to go. He's lost the fans, the players and, if they have any sense, the owners.
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 31, 2019 21:56:03 GMT
What’s all the fuss about!!! Pt.2,the sequal. Wonder how this one ends?
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 31, 2019 21:59:15 GMT
If our board were any cop, then they might well have backed NJ, but it would have only been prudent and sensible to be considering the very real possibility that this wouldn't work from Day 1 of this season. After all, what business these days wouldn't have a contingency plan or succession plan?
So, fear not folks, the board have got 5-6 names lined up all ready having carefully considered their credentials. (And updated the list regularly as the season goes on and people become more/less available - After all risk planning is a regular routine in well run businesses). We can therefore be sure that the board are all ready to pick the one that best matches the job in hand - which is to turnaround a club, motivate a demotivated squad, get results in the championship and be a positive public face. Thank goodness we are a well run club - with things like risk strategies, plans and due diligence all nicely in place for when these blips happen. Letting Jones go without a good option in hand is just not something we'd do at Stoke.
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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2019 22:02:40 GMT
It’s weird isn’t it, because on paper neither Jones nor Rowett seemed bad picks. They were a new direction, younger up and coming managers...and they’ve been awful. Reckon they’ll go back to their Sun Life Over 50s safety net again. People expecting Hughton are in cuckoo land. It will be one of: Pulis Megson ONeill Coleman You sure? Hughton strikes me very much as a Coates choice. Would he take the job? Yes I'd say so.
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Post by march4 on Aug 31, 2019 22:03:56 GMT
If our board were any cop, then they might well have backed NJ, but it would have only been prudent and sensible to be considering the very real possibility that this wouldn't work from Day 1 of this season. After all, what business these days wouldn't have a contingency plan or succession plan? So, fear not folks, the board have got 5-6 names lined up all ready having carefully considered their credentials. (And updated the list regularly as the season goes on and people become more/less available - after risk planning is a regular routine in well run businesses). They are all ready to pick the one that best matches the job in hand - which is to turnaround a club, motivate a demotivated squad, get results in the championship and be a positive public face. Thank goodness we are a well run club - with things like risk strategies, plans and due diligence all nicely in place for when these blips happen. Letting Jones go without a good option in hand is just not something we'd do at Stoke. Blimey, where are they going to find 5 or 6 names to get us out of this mess. Between us we are struggling to agree on one or two.
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Post by adamsson on Aug 31, 2019 22:07:56 GMT
Sacking him in the face of supporter dissatisfaction would be easy. Sticking by their manager would take more bottle. Yes it would be a brave move to stick with Jones, brave and stupid.
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 31, 2019 22:19:19 GMT
If our board were any cop, then they might well have backed NJ, but it would have only been prudent and sensible to be considering the very real possibility that this wouldn't work from Day 1 of this season. After all, what business these days wouldn't have a contingency plan or succession plan? So, fear not folks, the board have got 5-6 names lined up all ready having carefully considered their credentials. (And updated the list regularly as the season goes on and people become more/less available - after risk planning is a regular routine in well run businesses). They are all ready to pick the one that best matches the job in hand - which is to turnaround a club, motivate a demotivated squad, get results in the championship and be a positive public face. Thank goodness we are a well run club - with things like risk strategies, plans and due diligence all nicely in place for when these blips happen. Letting Jones go without a good option in hand is just not something we'd do at Stoke. Blimey, where are they going to find 5 or 6 names to get us out of this mess. Between us we are struggling to agree on one or two. Sorry, I was being sarcastic. They won't have a plan. They won't have a clue. They won't have a name. If true to form and they do sack Jones, they'll have conversations with one or two promising candidates perhaps. But those candidates - with any ambition - won't want to enter the swamp we've become, being able to quickly gauge the deficiencies and problems and the support needed to fix things. Rather than disrupt too much, they'll lurch desparately to either an internal appointment or (if true to form) some sort of dinosaur. There is talk of whether Hughton might come or not. Well, as 'just a manager', absolutely not i'd guess. The only thing that might tempt him is "the project" - the chance of running the whole football side for 2-3 years. Sometimes that gets a manager to work at a lower level and Allardyce spoke of wanting. I don't think it would count against the Board to sack NJ now - while the intention was that he was here for the long term, noone gets infinite grace and surely noone would think them wrong to act, given how badly wrong this has gone under Jones. But will our board realise they have to design a job to attract a strong candidate? You can bet they won't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 22:22:10 GMT
If Jon Coates represents the board, I can't see him reacting to 5,000 volts being put through him.
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Post by Goonie on Aug 31, 2019 22:22:30 GMT
Has Jones got the bottle to resign? And walk away from the inevitable payout? If he did he'd go up in my estimation
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Post by Goonie on Aug 31, 2019 22:28:36 GMT
He's a Christian not an Idiot,(Money) "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." It is easier for a Stoke player to hit the frame than it is to find the net
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 22:39:33 GMT
I don’t think the board really know what to do. Nor really care. You know what. That is exactly how I feel. It has taken 56 years, but on the bus home today I sat there quietly and thought that was a really shit experience, but it has cured me of my obsession. I have had false dawns in the past but I think this one is for real. Nobody gives a fuck about Stoke City FC apart from us, the supporters.
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Post by mermaidsal on Aug 31, 2019 22:40:31 GMT
Have the Board even got a search committee on this??
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