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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 27, 2019 21:04:12 GMT
Ok we almost blew it but that could be a big confidence boost.
I expected a thrashing so fair play to the team. lets see if we can score first and hold on for 3 points against Brum
p.s. when did the rules change to stop us trying to score 3 goals in a single game?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 27, 2019 21:05:14 GMT
Only if we win Saturday.
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Post by mattyd on Aug 27, 2019 21:07:35 GMT
This could be as big a win, as the loss in the semi away at Liverpool was.
I.E. Kickstart, as opposed to the beginning of a steep decline.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 27, 2019 21:08:50 GMT
Not for me, we still folded like a deck of cheap cards tonight. Still massive questions about our mentality.
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Post by FrankButcher on Aug 27, 2019 21:10:08 GMT
It'll all be for nothing if we don't beat Birmingham. We were all saying the wigan win was a turning point let's not get carried away.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 27, 2019 21:10:37 GMT
Not for me, we still folded like a deck of cheap cards tonight. Still massive questions about our mentality. True, but penalties are one of the biggest mental tests going, especially given our record in the past couple of years. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 27, 2019 21:10:59 GMT
Not for me, we still folded like a deck of cheap cards tonight. Still massive questions about our mentality. Spot on. It wasn't a win. Its impossible not to remember that we FAILED to hold a lead, and FAILED to get to three goals despite being on two goals before half time |
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Post by SCFC92 on Aug 27, 2019 21:11:24 GMT
Not for me, we still folded like a deck of cheap cards tonight. Still massive questions about our mentality. Correct after the blunder. However we had the mental strength to put 5 penalties in the net. Hopefully this sees us kick on. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 27, 2019 21:13:34 GMT
Not for me, we still folded like a deck of cheap cards tonight. Still massive questions about our mentality. to be honest it felt like a surprise win, followed by a depressing loss or inevitable loss on penalties. To win that shoot-out in the mickey mouse cup might just do some wonders for confidence. We havent won a game late on for years. We cant score 3 goals and we cant score penalties. So in a weird way we kind of broke all those hoodoos tonight by scoring 5 penalties in a row!! |
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Post by Absolution on Aug 27, 2019 21:14:29 GMT
Just winning a game seems massive to me, no matter what contortions we had to go through to get there.
Psychologically, another defeat after being two up would have been disastrous. At the very least, we now know we can come out on top even when everything seems to be going against us.
Only the next game will tell us if this is any kind of turning point or not, but tonight, just for once, it feels good.
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Post by philm87 on Aug 27, 2019 21:14:48 GMT
Not for me, we still folded like a deck of cheap cards tonight. Still massive questions about our mentality. Spot on. It wasn't a win. Its impossible not to remember that we FAILED to hold a lead, and FAILED to get to three goals despite being on two goals before half time So who goes through to the next round then? Fair enough to say we didn't win in normal time. But we did win the match in the end. That is simply a fact. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:15:27 GMT
It’s a huge win. And in a way doing it the way we did could give us a huge confidence boost. Every player ran to Jack at the end. That lads confidence will be booming. Hopefully the lads get in that dressing room and now believe that they can win games. If we can pinch a win Saturday then we may see a huge upturn in our fortunes
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Post by sealion100 on Aug 27, 2019 21:15:33 GMT
Mattyd ... think the same .... luck as finally changed from that Liverpool penalty defeat!! The ghost as been well and truly laid ...... ANY good manager would use this has a springboard to start the season... play the same side vs Brum!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 27, 2019 21:15:37 GMT
When's the last time we lost a shootout? Tbh, we've got a really good record. It means nothing in regards to the 90 minutes and our mental fragility for me.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 27, 2019 21:15:45 GMT
We're in the next round and we've come back from adversity to win a penalty shootout on their manor. Got to be worth something surely.
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Aug 27, 2019 21:17:09 GMT
I know we lost a 2 goal lead which is no surprise how many goaks we concede, but surely it still takes character and courage to win a shootout. I'm not saying everything is going be OK but we've come out with something tonight and hopefully will now put us a step in the right direction.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 27, 2019 21:18:48 GMT
Spot on. It wasn't a win. Its impossible not to remember that we FAILED to hold a lead, and FAILED to get to three goals despite being on two goals before half time So who goes through to the next round then? Fair enough to say we didn't win in normal time. But we did win the match in the end. That is simply a fact. We've seen countless false dawns over the last few years. We've just been battered there and chucked away a two goal lead against a weakened leeds team. It would be stupid to think we've turned a corner. We need to start actually winning games. I'm gutted we were two nil up and cruising and still fucked it. Why? Because I'm worried about the league. But if I was the manager, in that dressing room I'd be focusing minds on the fact we won the penalties and got over one mental barrier. Holding on to a lead is another one |
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Aug 27, 2019 21:20:05 GMT
We're in the next round and we've come back from adversity to win a penalty shootout on their manor. Got to be worth something surely. We should be taking anything resemblence of positivity right now, fuck knows the club and the fans need it. |
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Post by claytonscrubs on Aug 27, 2019 21:21:37 GMT
It wasn’t convincing, but who cares, we’re in the next round of the EFL Cup 👍
I’m pleased for Jones, he deserves some luck.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 27, 2019 21:24:00 GMT
Not for me, we still folded like a deck of cheap cards tonight. Still massive questions about our mentality. Spot on. It wasn't a win. Its impossible not to remember that we FAILED to hold a lead, and FAILED to get to three goals despite being on two goals before half time Going through to the next round means you won the game, bizarre comment, but its not great we folded, and failed to get a third so what plenty of teams do, I'm happy tonight, again plenty of positives its clear what the big problem is and we need a league win to start getting that right. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:24:00 GMT
It's often these fine margins that turn seasons around IF they are used correctly. Comparisons with the Wigan game are way off.
Going to Elland Road with the form they're in is tough, even more tough after what we've been through.
To then overcome another mistake by the keeper and to go on and win a shootout where we haven't scored a penalty since god knows when is potentially huge.
We have to use it now and kick on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:25:04 GMT
When's the last time we lost a shootout? Tbh, we've got a really good record. It means nothing in regards to the 90 minutes and our mental fragility for me. Liverpool semi probably, how many do we actually have though? Not to mention the fact our club is synonymous with failing to score penalties right now, you can't fail to acknowledge that unless you're wanting to see things a certain way. That shootout is a credit to the lad's mental strength, not that they have much credit in that regard. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 27, 2019 21:27:15 GMT
its a win and we need whatever confidence we can take.
Its a nice surprise so lets make the most of it and try to win on saturday to turn the corner
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 27, 2019 21:27:31 GMT
Spot on. It wasn't a win. Its impossible not to remember that we FAILED to hold a lead, and FAILED to get to three goals despite being on two goals before half time Going through to the next round means you won the game, bizarre comment, but its not great we folded, and failed to get a third so what plenty of teams do, I'm happy tonight, again plenty of positives its clear what the big problem is and we need a league win to start getting that right. Yes the manager has to focus on the positives but also learn from it. We fucked it up from 2-0 up though didn't we? We didn't win the game, we drew. We went through to the next round after a penalty shoot out because we drew the game. We've all suffered enough and it's nice to just try to enjoy the positives for a change. I understand that. |
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Post by lordb on Aug 27, 2019 21:28:56 GMT
Going through to the next round means you won the game, bizarre comment, but its not great we folded, and failed to get a third so what plenty of teams do, I'm happy tonight, again plenty of positives its clear what the big problem is and we need a league win to start getting that right. Yes the manager has to focus on the positives but also learn from it. We fucked it up from 2-0 up though didn't we? We didn't win the game, we drew. We went through to the next round after a penalty shoot out because we drew the game. We've all suffered enough and it's nice to just try to enjoy the positives for a change. I understand that. First twenty minutes if sect half we were reasonably steady. Butland clanger and then it's the Alamo. That's not tactical is it, purely down to Butland. |
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Post by sportsman on Aug 27, 2019 21:29:09 GMT
Why do I get the impression some on here are a touch unhappy with the win?
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Post by elystokie on Aug 27, 2019 21:29:46 GMT
When's the last time we lost a shootout? Tbh, we've got a really good record. It means nothing in regards to the 90 minutes and our mental fragility for me. True, but a lot of them showed tremendous mental fortitude to score a penalty in front of their main stand, should do the whole squad the world of good. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 27, 2019 21:30:15 GMT
Going through to the next round means you won the game, bizarre comment, but its not great we folded, and failed to get a third so what plenty of teams do, I'm happy tonight, again plenty of positives its clear what the big problem is and we need a league win to start getting that right. Yes the manager has to focus on the positives but also learn from it. We fucked it up from 2-0 up though didn't we? We didn't win the game, we drew. We went through to the next round after a penalty shoot out because we drew the game. We've all suffered enough and it's nice to just try to enjoy the positives for a change. I understand that. Won on penalties  We did fuck up and as I say its pretty clear what the problem is and I can't see anything other than winning games being the way to fix it, hopefully we start that against Brum. |
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Post by philm87 on Aug 27, 2019 21:33:01 GMT
So who goes through to the next round then? Fair enough to say we didn't win in normal time. But we did win the match in the end. That is simply a fact. We've seen countless false dawns over the last few years. We've just been battered there and chucked away a two goal lead against a weakened leeds team. It would be stupid to think we've turned a corner. We need to start actually winning games. I'm gutted we were two nil up and cruising and still fucked it. Why? Because I'm worried about the league. But if I was the manager, in that dressing room I'd be focusing minds on the fact we won the penalties and got over one mental barrier. Holding on to a lead is another one Regardless of any of the other points you are making, we won tonight. That's not my interpretation of the game - that is what actually happened. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 27, 2019 21:34:03 GMT
It is for me.
A clean sheet (even if a 0-0) draw at the weekend would be OK.
We then get it together, stick with the 5-3-2 and start grinding it out. People like Duffy and CCV get to the fitness we want and add to the competition and the players just do their jobs. Forget the moaning and groaning and just get on with it.
This squad has enough quality to beat anyone in this league - lets get the good times going again, it's been a while.
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