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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 26, 2019 15:05:39 GMT
As an overseas supporter, Signal 2 Has been my mainstay since we have gone down and I don't want to jinx anything but how are they getting away with broadcasting both internationally and domestically when the club are telling us you have to pay them to listen (or watch if you calll that stream even watchable). Just been pleased I have access to the matches as I am sure others have. Supporters can listen to Stoke City’s Carabao Cup second round meeting with Leeds United at Elland Road tomorrow (kick-off 7.45pm) via Stoke City +. Due to EFL and FA broadcasting regulations, fans can only listen to Carabao and FA Cup games on club channels. Stoke City + audio packages are priced at £4.50 per month or £45 for the season. www.stokecityfc.com/news/2019/august/Carabao-Cup-tie-listen-live-1/ |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 15:11:51 GMT
they were broadcasting even in the prem so cant be an issue
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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 26, 2019 15:15:35 GMT
they were broadcasting even in the prem so cant be an issue So are the club blatantly lying ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 15:17:03 GMT
they were broadcasting even in the prem so cant be an issue So are the club blatantly lying ? Radio Stoke is a BBC station, perhaps its something do with that? Signal may be tied to different rules |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 15:17:16 GMT
I think it means you can only listen to it on club channels rather than watch.
Not that you can only listen to it on club channels and not on any other channel.
If that’s makes sense? I had to read it a few times the other week myself.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 26, 2019 15:27:14 GMT
I think it means you can only listen to it on club channels rather than watch. Not that you can only listen to it on club channels and not on any other channel. If that’s makes sense? I had to read it a few times the other week myself. Right, so it's "on club channels you can only listen" rather than "the only way you can listen is on club channels" Still, related to what Rob says above, I've never understood why BBC Radio Stoke has always cut out right at the time a game starts but Signal 2 broadcasts it freely, no matter what the competition - Prem, EFL, cup, whatever. |
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Post by potter25 on Aug 26, 2019 15:28:26 GMT
I think it means you can only listen to it on club channels rather than watch. Not that you can only listen to it on club channels and not on any other channel. If that’s makes sense? I had to read it a few times the other week myself. Right, so it's "on club channels you can only listen" rather than "the only way you can listen is on club channels" Still, related to what Rob says above, I've never understood why BBC Radio Stoke has always cut out right at the time a game starts but Signal 2 broadcasts it freely, no matter what the competition - Prem, EFL, cup, whatever. BBC policy maybe? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 15:29:39 GMT
I think it means you can only listen to it on club channels rather than watch. Not that you can only listen to it on club channels and not on any other channel. If that’s makes sense? I had to read it a few times the other week myself. Right, so it's "on club channels you can only listen" rather than "the only way you can listen is on club channels" Still, related to what Rob says above, I've never understood why BBC Radio Stoke has always cut out right at the time a game starts but Signal 2 broadcasts it freely, no matter what the competition - Prem, EFL, cup, whatever. Yes that’s what I concluded after reading it a few times the other week! I think it’s BBC radio stoke you can’t listen to on internet radio. I’m not sure as I listen on Signal 2 as I’m normally commuting home on the train so I’m on my phone but I’ve seen people say that on here. But radio stoke should work on a real radio maybe? |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 26, 2019 15:33:15 GMT
Right, so it's "on club channels you can only listen" rather than "the only way you can listen is on club channels" Still, related to what Rob says above, I've never understood why BBC Radio Stoke has always cut out right at the time a game starts but Signal 2 broadcasts it freely, no matter what the competition - Prem, EFL, cup, whatever. BBC policy maybe? I've wondered but I can't possibly see why they'd do that out of choice. Literally just giving their listeners to the commercial competition. Maybe it's just that Signal have negotiated online broadcasting rights and the beeb haven't? But then how come we end up paying the club for the BBC feed, which they then broadcast internationally? All rather confusing. |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 26, 2019 15:34:46 GMT
Right, so it's "on club channels you can only listen" rather than "the only way you can listen is on club channels" Still, related to what Rob says above, I've never understood why BBC Radio Stoke has always cut out right at the time a game starts but Signal 2 broadcasts it freely, no matter what the competition - Prem, EFL, cup, whatever. Yes that’s what I concluded after reading it a few times the other week! I think it’s BBC radio stoke you can’t listen to on internet radio. I’m not sure as I listen on Signal 2 as I’m normally commuting home on the train so I’m on my phone but I’ve seen people say that on here. But radio stoke should work on a real radio maybe? Yeah there's no problem with the actual radio broadcast, it's the online feed that cuts out. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 26, 2019 16:40:29 GMT
The last 2 seasons you have been able to listen to BBC Radio Stoke match commentary broadcast free through the Stoke+ match Centre by simply registering free of charge. So now they are charging you to listen to a broadcast that you already pay for if you have a BBC licence which helps to fund BBC local radio. Robbing bastards.
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Post by theoptimist on Aug 26, 2019 17:13:59 GMT
Not sure what's going on ... BBC London seem to broadcast their commentaries via BBC main sport website, no problem .... 2nd class service for the regions I guess?
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 26, 2019 18:43:33 GMT
Five-year-old link below. Very vague but confirms it's about "broadcast rights"... has to be something to do with a public network not being allowed to compete with commercial stations in this way. Still don't understand why we're free to pay the club for the same content though. "The BBC regrets that it is unable to stream football match commentaries on its websites.
(The only exceptions are FA Cup matches, and non-league matches.)
Broadcast rights restrict the BBC to transmissions on radio and DAB (digital) radio only... which is why you'll hear that annoying announcement on Saturday afternoons telling you that you can't hear BBC output at that time. Sorry..."www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/radiopages/streaming/faq.shtml#football |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 18:47:42 GMT
Five-year-old link below. Very vague but confirms it's about "broadcast rights"... has to be something to do with a public network not being allowed to compete with commercial stations in this way. Still don't understand why we're free to pay the club for the same content though. "The BBC regrets that it is unable to stream football match commentaries on its websites.
(The only exceptions are FA Cup matches, and non-league matches.)
Broadcast rights restrict the BBC to transmissions on radio and DAB (digital) radio only... which is why you'll hear that annoying announcement on Saturday afternoons telling you that you can't hear BBC output at that time. Sorry..."www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/radiopages/streaming/faq.shtml#footballMaybe if the BBC sell it to the clubs who broadcast if online then the BBC also can’t do it online (otherwise the clubs wouldn’t buy it) |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 26, 2019 18:56:41 GMT
Five-year-old link below. Very vague but confirms it's about "broadcast rights"... has to be something to do with a public network not being allowed to compete with commercial stations in this way. Still don't understand why we're free to pay the club for the same content though. "The BBC regrets that it is unable to stream football match commentaries on its websites.
(The only exceptions are FA Cup matches, and non-league matches.)
Broadcast rights restrict the BBC to transmissions on radio and DAB (digital) radio only... which is why you'll hear that annoying announcement on Saturday afternoons telling you that you can't hear BBC output at that time. Sorry..."www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/radiopages/streaming/faq.shtml#footballMaybe if the BBC sell it to the clubs who broadcast if online then the BBC also can’t do it online (otherwise the clubs wouldn’t buy it) This has been the case for at least ten years though.. I remember the days of listening on a dodgy pirate stream (where you could hear all the commentators' off-air chat at half time) for the same reason. The club have only been broadcasting officially this last couple of years I think? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 19:00:58 GMT
Maybe if the BBC sell it to the clubs who broadcast if online then the BBC also can’t do it online (otherwise the clubs wouldn’t buy it) This has been the case for at least ten years though.. I remember the days of listening on a dodgy pirate stream (where you could hear all the commentators' off-air chat at half time) for the same reason. The club have only been broadcasting officially this last couple of years I think? Oh maybe not then! I just wouldn’t past any money grabbing past the BBC! |
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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 26, 2019 21:38:24 GMT
The club should support a local Stoke on Trent radio station not the BBC. This smells of Scholes all over.... The club have obviously signed something with the BBC why have they never given Signal 2 any recognition ? They are there every week and literally the only way some of us can listen to the matches. To not even offer Signal 2 as an alternative to being charged 45 quid a season is robbery and pretty shifty.... As I said this smells like Scholes
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 27, 2019 6:06:12 GMT
The club should support a local Stoke on Trent radio station not the BBC. This smells of Scholes all over.... The club have obviously signed something with the BBC why have they never given Signal 2 any recognition ? They are there every week and literally the only way some of us can listen to the matches. To not even offer Signal 2 as an alternative to being charged 45 quid a season is robbery and pretty shifty.... As I said this smells like Scholes As I said in my previous post, relegation and last season the club provided match commentary free through the match centre on Stoke+. Suddenly this season it’s £45. They can fuck right off! I prefer to listen to Signal 2 free and support a local radio station. |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 27, 2019 19:16:40 GMT
So is the game actually on Signal 2?? Online? I’ve just got music atm
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 19:18:27 GMT
So is the game actually on Signal 2?? Online? I’ve just got music atm No only on the real radio! But I swear Preston I listened on the phone. |
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Post by Stokieson on Aug 27, 2019 19:43:09 GMT
So is the game actually on Signal 2?? Online? I’ve just got music atm No only on the real radio! But I swear Preston I listened on the phone. As an exile I've had to listen to away games online on Signal 2 for a while and it's never been an issue (apart form the commentary being slightly shit), and suddenly they're claiming they don't have the rights...  |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 27, 2019 19:50:25 GMT
Different rights for the cup then 🙄
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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 27, 2019 21:01:22 GMT
Different rights for the cup then 🙄 Never used to be, wonder if something happened when I mentioned this .... |
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Post by BuzzB on Aug 27, 2019 21:05:28 GMT
Different rights for the cup then 🙄 Never used to be, wonder if something happened when I mentioned this .... They covered the Wigan game so whats changed? |
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Post by musik on Aug 27, 2019 23:28:08 GMT
Never used to be, wonder if something happened when I mentioned this .... They covered the Wigan game so whats changed? I have been able to listen to all the games on Saturdays. But not the midweek game in the championship against Preston or today in the cup vs Leeds Utd. |
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Post by raythesailor on Aug 28, 2019 8:46:10 GMT
There is some kind of contractual difficulties between the Beeb and the FA,PL,EFL., etc...
I spend a lot of time in Greece. Exactly the same thing happens when the GrandPrix is on. You can listen to it on BBC in the UK but not abroad.
Stupid and very frustrating.
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