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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 26, 2019 19:03:16 GMT
Might be worth buying this seasons shirt, it may go up in value if they go under.
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Post by leicspotter on Aug 26, 2019 19:10:08 GMT
Football has been rotten from top to bottom for some time now, coinciding with the influx of money from TV and sponsorship.
FIFA is riddled with corruption scandals, the PFA are condemned over their response to the brain injury evidence and clubs can be taken over by people who do not appear to meet the "fit and proper" criteria.
Players wages are now at obscene levels
When TV audiences start to drop off the whole mess will implode
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 26, 2019 19:24:35 GMT
Might be worth buying this seasons shirt, it may go up in value if they go under. Glory hunter 😎
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 26, 2019 19:27:57 GMT
Football is going the same way as the High Street shops , Bury , Bolton and more will follow
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 26, 2019 19:29:51 GMT
Might be worth buying this seasons shirt, it may go up in value if they go under. Glory hunter 😎 To be fair you would expect a group of ex prem players to step in and save them. I can't see the bury shirt going up much.
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 26, 2019 19:30:19 GMT
The synchronicity between Bolton and Stoke is getting quite frightening ? Both founders of the football league, Lofthouse and Matthews both legends of the game, the Burden Park disaster, both left their spiritual home for pastures new, Burden for the Reebok and the Victoria for the Britannia, we began our premier league journey at Bolton, our victory over Bolton at Wembley was perhaps the beginning of Bolton’s demise, both were part of the premier league mainstays and regarded as a template for smaller clubs to succeed in such esteemed company and now both have dropped like lead balloons !
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 26, 2019 19:30:21 GMT
Football is going the same way as the High Street shops , Bury , Bolton and more will follow Arsenal?
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 26, 2019 19:30:57 GMT
Not sure what happened. Apparently a deal was ready to be signed on Saturday morning, then for whatever reason one of the former directors (Ken Anderson) backed out. Anyone know why? Seems wrong that the fate of a 145 year-old club with such a rich history can lie in the hands of one man.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 26, 2019 19:36:14 GMT
To think that 8 years ago we played them in a Wembley semi final and 7 years ago they lost their premiership status.Just goes to show what happens when a rich owner (Eddie Davies) passes away and some utter moron takes over the club.God help us if Coates Snr goes anytime soon and the family say they’ve had enough😮Doesn’t bare thinking about
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Post by zerps on Aug 26, 2019 19:39:40 GMT
When this happens to stoke will we still blame the manager? No, that's just for things like winning 3 games in 26, which is the responsibility of the manager, Brainiac Your avatar speaks volumes
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 26, 2019 20:08:51 GMT
Football is going the same way as the High Street shops , Bury , Bolton and more will follow We will end up with a dozen teams . 6 super rich teams plus a handful for them to thrash every week. If the top 6 clubs donated 1% of their revenue for the next week, that would be probably enough to sort Bolton's financial problem
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 26, 2019 20:14:02 GMT
Football is going the same way as the High Street shops , Bury , Bolton and more will follow Mike Ashley will buy them up...🤣
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 26, 2019 20:16:47 GMT
To think that 8 years ago we played them in a Wembley semi final and 7 years ago they lost their premiership status.Just goes to show what happens when a rich owner (Eddie Davies) passes away and some utter moron takes over the club.God help us if Coates Snr goes anytime soon and the family say they’ve had enough😮Doesn’t bare thinking about And then you have some idiots on here saying they should sell up (F off a few said) idiots the lot of them to want the family out
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 26, 2019 20:27:29 GMT
Football is going the same way as the High Street shops , Bury , Bolton and more will follow Arsenal? Please god make it happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 20:34:40 GMT
To think that 8 years ago we played them in a Wembley semi final and 7 years ago they lost their premiership status.Just goes to show what happens when a rich owner (Eddie Davies) passes away and some utter moron takes over the club.God help us if Coates Snr goes anytime soon and the family say they’ve had enough😮Doesn’t bare thinking about You should do more research. I work with two Bolton fans who said the decline happened well within Eddie Davies' reign as he refused to put any more money into the club. 2 + 2 does not equal 4 in this case.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 26, 2019 20:41:58 GMT
To think that 8 years ago we played them in a Wembley semi final and 7 years ago they lost their premiership status.Just goes to show what happens when a rich owner (Eddie Davies) passes away and some utter moron takes over the club.God help us if Coates Snr goes anytime soon and the family say they’ve had enough😮Doesn’t bare thinking about You should do more research. I work with two Bolton fans who said the decline happened well within Eddie Davies' reign as he refused to put any more money into the club. 2 + 2 does not equal 4 in this case. Yes but didn’t he bankroll the club up to the sum of £180 million?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 20:49:19 GMT
You should do more research. I work with two Bolton fans who said the decline happened well within Eddie Davies' reign as he refused to put any more money into the club. 2 + 2 does not equal 4 in this case. Yes but didn’t he bankroll the club up to the sum of £180 million? Yes he did. I've had some very interesting conversations with both of them over the last few years, some of which are ringing alarm bells now.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 26, 2019 20:52:18 GMT
Yes but didn’t he bankroll the club up to the sum of £180 million? Yes he did. I've had some very interesting conversations with both of them over the last few years, some of which are ringing alarm bells now. Yes I share the same worries also mate
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 26, 2019 21:28:56 GMT
You should do more research. I work with two Bolton fans who said the decline happened well within Eddie Davies' reign as he refused to put any more money into the club. 2 + 2 does not equal 4 in this case. Yes but didn’t he bankroll the club up to the sum of £180 million? There it is again... the arrogance that chucking a few quid in = a good owner.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 26, 2019 21:31:24 GMT
Yes but didn’t he bankroll the club up to the sum of £180 million? There it is again... the arrogance that chucking a few quid in = a good owner. It certainly helps
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Post by march4 on Aug 26, 2019 21:36:51 GMT
Terrible situation.
Thank goodness for the Coates family.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 21:43:07 GMT
There it is again... the arrogance that chucking a few quid in = a good owner. It certainly helps Not if you're chucking a fair percentage of those millions at the likes of Gary Megson, Owen Coyle, Dougie Freedman and Neil Lennon though surely? What's the difference between that and chucking it at Mark Hughes, Paul Lambert and Gary Rowett?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 26, 2019 21:56:05 GMT
Not if you're chucking a fair percentage of those millions at the likes of Gary Megson, Owen Coyle, Dougie Freedman and Neil Lennon though surely? What's the difference between that and chucking it at Mark Hughes, Paul Lambert and Gary Rowett? Very true but I suppose it’s called backing your manager
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 4:33:10 GMT
Not if you're chucking a fair percentage of those millions at the likes of Gary Megson, Owen Coyle, Dougie Freedman and Neil Lennon though surely? What's the difference between that and chucking it at Mark Hughes, Paul Lambert and Gary Rowett? Very true but I suppose it’s called backing your manager Indeed it is. It's also called repeatedly picking the wrong manager for the job at hand.
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Post by thestatusquo on Aug 27, 2019 5:03:39 GMT
I do have sympathy for the fans but little for the club. Lest we forget, when the premier league was formed the then chairman of Bolton (Gartside?) advocated creating a league with no relegation if I recall correctly. Had that taken place we would not have had the 10 years that we had there.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 27, 2019 6:25:36 GMT
No, that's just for things like winning 3 games in 26, which is the responsibility of the manager, Brainiac Your avatar speaks volumes As does you calling other people retards on the matchday thread the other day you silly little moron. And also the fact that you never actually go to Stoke games. Nothing about the point I raised then? Just your usual meaningless white noise. You're the worst poster on here.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 27, 2019 6:30:10 GMT
The common theme I’s that both benefactors legacy has been squandered by those they paid and trusted to run the clubs
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Post by zerps on Aug 27, 2019 7:25:08 GMT
Your avatar speaks volumes As does you calling other people retards on the matchday thread the other day you silly little moron. And also the fact that you never actually go to Stoke games. Nothing about the point I raised then? Just your usual meaningless white noise. You're the worst poster on here. If I called you a retard then I was right. Also, have you been going through my bins? The worlds biggest Greg Wallace fan is on my case 😆
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Post by thevoid on Aug 27, 2019 7:45:49 GMT
As does you calling other people retards on the matchday thread the other day you silly little moron. And also the fact that you never actually go to Stoke games. Nothing about the point I raised then? Just your usual meaningless white noise. You're the worst poster on here. If I called you a retard then I was right. Also, have you been going through my bins? The worlds biggest Greg Wallace fan is on my case 😆 Actually it was someone else you called a retard, you thick fuck. What the hell are zerps anyway? They sound like something that make your bell-end itch
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 27, 2019 8:07:47 GMT
Two points I'd like to make. 1. We are not going the same way as Bolton because our owners refuse to let us spend more money than safe but despite this we have five players who refuse to be transferred out of the club because they can't match the wages they get here. I think Stoke have learned their lesson here but I do feel that players like them have far too much power thanks to Bosman. I have no idea how to change it but the players who were supposed to benefit at lower league clubs are the ones who suffer with wages not paid.
2. What annoys me most about the situation is that clubs in the North and Midlands where the true football supporters live are going out of business while clubs in the rich environs of London with no real fan base such as Brighton, Southampton, Watford and Bournemouth have become some of the biggest spenders. Can you imagine that a Bolton or Bury will rise like a Phoenix from their demise like Bournemouth did? Yet because of their success in rising through the league clubs like Bury massively overspend to try to get promotion. Let's not forget that whilst the club have been in financial trouble for years Bury still spent more than any club in their division to gain promotion last season.
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