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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 24, 2019 17:32:16 GMT
Worse than Edwards? Not a chance. Yes. No chance. Cousins started ok and did a few things right for 15 minutes. Edwards couldn't even manage that. Thank God it wasnt Smith turning in that performance
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Post by onepara on Aug 24, 2019 17:33:28 GMT
The club are trying to play football on the cheap, & this player is the result. They brought Jones in, a cheap Manager, to get players that he knew, i.e. cheap ones. This is the result. Those of us old enough to remember will know that this is the result of Coates reverting to type & shying away from keeping us in the Prem, which would have been the costlier option. This Manager can't motivate players that have played at a higher level than the one that he has been used to. He can't tell them anything, because they will be thinking "Who has he played for, what has he done in football. Had modest success with Luton, that's all. He needs to go & to be replaced by someone who these players can look up to. Someone who has achieved something in the game. My suggestion would be David Moyes. But then again, that would cost a lot more money than the Board are perhaps willing to spend. As I say, they wnat to do it on the cheap.
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Post by fraybentos on Aug 24, 2019 17:34:09 GMT
I was going put some missing person posters up around the ground, vanished-terrible signing, naths to blame for this one.
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Post by eebygum on Aug 24, 2019 17:34:57 GMT
He's an "Athlete" apparently? What for the paralympics 😉 Cum on felleur. thas betta than dis.
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Post by dreamtheater on Aug 24, 2019 17:49:55 GMT
Ahh towd thee... told I was being 'negative' when I reported on here when he signed i.e. he offered QPR absolutely nothing for 3 years, as told by a close friend who is hoops through and through. Its now taken us a handful.of games to confirm the diagnosis ...... hes absolutely gash.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 24, 2019 17:54:53 GMT
No chance. Cousins started ok and did a few things right for 15 minutes. Edwards couldn't even manage that. Thank God it wasnt Smith turning in that performance To be fair, the formation he played today doesn't make it easy for any full back, especially one still young and learning his trade.
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Post by zerps on Aug 24, 2019 17:55:45 GMT
Jones thought he was the answer for DM and that McClean was the answer for LB, that's all the evidence you need to know he's clueless. Yet mcclean looks decent
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2019 17:56:13 GMT
Jones thought he was the answer for DM and that McClean was the answer for LB, that's all the evidence you need to know he's clueless. Yet mcclean looks decent He was fucking bollocks today.
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Post by zerps on Aug 24, 2019 17:57:05 GMT
What for the paralympics 😉 Cum on felleur. thas betta than dis. Are you from brixton?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 24, 2019 17:57:09 GMT
Jones thought he was the answer for DM and that McClean was the answer for LB, that's all the evidence you need to know he's clueless. Yet mcclean looks decent He can't defend, it's an absolutely crucial position in his formation and Jones has fucked it.
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Post by zerps on Aug 24, 2019 17:57:38 GMT
He was fucking bollocks today. One mistake I’d say. Decent going forward. Far worse performers
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2019 17:59:15 GMT
He was fucking bollocks today. One mistake I’d say. Decent going forward. Far worse performers Decent going forward? He beat his man tbf then as per usual found no one.
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Post by eebygum on Aug 24, 2019 18:02:11 GMT
Cum on felleur. thas betta than dis. Are you from brixton? Eur theur eur goblin?
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Post by zerps on Aug 24, 2019 18:02:14 GMT
One mistake I’d say. Decent going forward. Far worse performers Decent going forward? He beat his man tbf then as per usual found no one. He’s one of our better performers
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Post by zerps on Aug 24, 2019 18:02:37 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 24, 2019 18:04:27 GMT
No chance. Cousins started ok and did a few things right for 15 minutes. Edwards couldn't even manage that. Thank God it wasnt Smith turning in that performance To be fair, the formation he played today doesn't make it easy for any full back, especially one still young and learning his trade. Always an excuse for a favoured player. He isnt quick enough to be a full back, defensively he isnt brave enough to block shots and crosses and offensively he hasn't a single trick to make him effective. Compare and contrast with Collins who is a proper player.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Aug 24, 2019 18:06:59 GMT
Beyond dreadful.
Quite clear this was Jones clutching at straws as the club wouldn't finance his first choices.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 24, 2019 18:08:03 GMT
To be fair, the formation he played today doesn't make it easy for any full back, especially one still young and learning his trade. Always an excuse for a favoured player. He isnt quick enough to be a full back, defensively he isnt brave enough to block shots and crosses and offensively he hasn't a single trick to make him effective. Compare and contrast with Collins who is a proper player. Tom Edwards was poor today but is so much better than Smith it makes my eyes bleed.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 24, 2019 18:08:50 GMT
To be honest, any delight experienced from.seeing Jack and Joe dropped from the team was replaced with incredulity when I saw his name on the teamsheet. Woods had a bad game against Preston but had looked back to his best against Derby and Wigan. He didn't deserve to be dropped. To be honest I think Jordan might have been better on the left of midfield, replacing Clucas instead. He's known more (at least from his Charlton days) for power and driving runs. Jordan's atrocious performance today leaves me wondering what the fuck NJ's been doing with him all summer! Woods was injured.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 18:08:51 GMT
Beyond dreadful. Quite clear this was Jones clutching at straws as the club wouldn't finance his first choices. Is it heck. He worked with him at Charlton and was one of the first in. It was Jones decision.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 24, 2019 18:11:44 GMT
The club are trying to play football on the cheap, & this player is the result. They brought Jones in, a cheap Manager, to get players that he knew, i.e. cheap ones. This is the result. Those of us old enough to remember will know that this is the result of Coates reverting to type & shying away from keeping us in the Prem, which would have been the costlier option. This Manager can't motivate players that have played at a higher level than the one that he has been used to. He can't tell them anything, because they will be thinking "Who has he played for, what has he done in football. Had modest success with Luton, that's all. He needs to go & to be replaced by someone who these players can look up to. Someone who has achieved something in the game. My suggestion would be David Moyes. But then again, that would cost a lot more money than the Board are perhaps willing to spend. As I say, they wnat to do it on the cheap. Spot on
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 18:11:53 GMT
He makes David oldfield look like the signing of the century!! He’s absolutely wank.
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Post by eebygum on Aug 24, 2019 18:15:02 GMT
Is dis wha' t' kids call dog whistle racism these days?
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Post by march4 on Aug 24, 2019 18:17:54 GMT
A third division player signed by a third division manager.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 24, 2019 18:20:53 GMT
Always an excuse for a favoured player. He isnt quick enough to be a full back, defensively he isnt brave enough to block shots and crosses and offensively he hasn't a single trick to make him effective. Compare and contrast with Collins who is a proper player. Tom Edwards was poor today but is so much better than Smith it makes my eyes bleed. Both are hopeless. Let's be brutally honest about it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 24, 2019 18:25:05 GMT
Tom Edwards was poor today but is so much better than Smith it makes my eyes bleed. Both are hopeless. Let's be brutally honest about it. Maybe but what another fucking horrendous signing Smith is. 4M on absolutely unneeded shit. Just fuck off Jones.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 24, 2019 18:45:03 GMT
Both are hopeless. Let's be brutally honest about it. Maybe but what another fucking horrendous signing Smith is. 4M on absolutely unneeded shit. Just fuck off Jones. Add another to a long list. Hogan, lyndsey, Davies, cousins are all equally shit. I dont care what anyone says, and I don't say this to defend Jones, no one will ever convince me that he was happy to go into the season with McLean at left back. Players were identified. Once again, we didn't get them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 18:52:20 GMT
Maybe but what another fucking horrendous signing Smith is. 4M on absolutely unneeded shit. Just fuck off Jones. Add another to a long list. Hogan, lyndsey, Davies, cousins are all equally shit. I dont care what anyone says, and I don't say this to defend Jones, no one will ever convince me that he was happy to go into the season with McLean at left back. Players were identified. Once again, we didn't get them. We couldn’t have got James Justin because he went to Orem club. That wasn’t anyone’s fault but Jones has admitted they looked at the other options avaliable and he didn’t want them. That’s fair enough but what is totally unacceptable was letting Pieters go without a replacement. That was criminal. He’s a fucking idiot for that and it was totally his fault.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 24, 2019 18:55:27 GMT
He falls into that special category of watching Stoke players who you genuinely, and deep down sincerely believe that you could actually do a better job.
They're rare and far apart but we were (un)lucky enough to have 2 in the starting 11 today.
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Post by stokie223 on Aug 24, 2019 18:57:41 GMT
I SO want to like Jones. I SO want to believe in the process... but this isn't good enough.
I certainly think it takes time to try & change the whole soul of a club, but he said himself that we can judge him when he has his own team. Cousins is a terrible footballer - and it concerns me that we signed him on the basis that Jones thought he was a good CDM at youth level, despite never actually playing there at senior level (or it certainly wasn't his natural position). Similarly with the diamond; this is a system that's almost entirely reliant on having flying wing backs as one of your main attacking threats. We have ZERO wing backs at the club. This is, for me, a catastrophic error on Jones' part. He's either very stubborn, or very stupid.
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