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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 19, 2019 18:03:20 GMT
Amazing what you can do with these online language translators nowadays. Listen pal, someone fahn' t' translator ages agoa. bur ah'm not goan let 'a' ruin uz fun sa eitha shurrup or enjoy it for wha' it is. "Enjoy it for what it is" - one hell of a paradox for us all to think about.
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 19, 2019 18:05:13 GMT
Amazing what you can do with these online language translators nowadays. .... in conjunction with a simple mind Jim Kerr or Charlie Burchill?
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Post by rawli on Aug 19, 2019 18:06:05 GMT
Whether they were crap is irrelevant in the abstract sense. The likely reason that they are crap is because of underfunding, which comes from tax. So, in the abstract sense - divorced from your experience in this context - do you believe that the police should exist in situations like this to intervene or to dispense justice after the fact where that's not possible? And if you think they shouldn't exist, why did you contact them in the first place? It absolutely is not crap, it's crucial to what we're discussing. Like any other body, if they are unable to provide the service they are charging you for (under threat of violence by the way), they should not be charging you. Having already paid for their protection, I have every right to use them. Just because I don't agree with income tax or council tax doesn't stop me from being able to use the service. There is always room for the police, it is a legitimate role of government to provide this. It should be paid for via a voluntary subscription though. Do only subscribers get to use the service?
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Post by eebygum on Aug 19, 2019 18:09:17 GMT
Listen pal, someone fahn' t' translator ages agoa. bur ah'm not goan let 'a' ruin uz fun sa eitha shurrup or enjoy it for wha' it is. "Enjoy it for what it is" - one hell of a paradox for us all to think about. Felleur, ah'm operatin on orl t' levels
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 19, 2019 18:18:16 GMT
Hope it hasn't acted as a deterrent and you carry on your usual match day routine.
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Post by loosestools on Aug 19, 2019 18:25:59 GMT
Fuck theesen off, theetonna rightin thed.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Aug 19, 2019 18:34:21 GMT
Can you use them for goalposts?...
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 19, 2019 19:39:17 GMT
Whether they were crap is irrelevant in the abstract sense. The likely reason that they are crap is because of underfunding, which comes from tax. So, in the abstract sense - divorced from your experience in this context - do you believe that the police should exist in situations like this to intervene or to dispense justice after the fact where that's not possible? And if you think they shouldn't exist, why did you contact them in the first place? It absolutely is not crap, it's crucial to what we're discussing. Like any other body, if they are unable to provide the service they are charging you for (under threat of violence by the way), they should not be charging you. Having already paid for their protection, I have every right to use them. Just because I don't agree with income tax or council tax doesn't stop me from being able to use the service. There is always room for the police, it is a legitimate role of government to provide this. It should be paid for via a voluntary subscription though. Appreciate you've had a tough time mate. Glad you're safe and would love to give these shithouses a fucking good kicking on behalf of all decent Stokies. But this concept of a subscription police confuses me I must say. Wouldn't any non-subscribers simply get left to die - in many cases literally - until there came a point where everyone would be either terrified into paying the sub or dead, and then we'd just be back to where we are now except with more dead/injured people?
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Post by salopstick on Aug 19, 2019 22:11:23 GMT
I was queuing up for the bus back into Stoke. Two lads and a girl decided they'd just disregard everyone else and cut in. Normally I would ignore it but some bloke behind me shouted "Queue's back there". For once in my life I decided to stick up for myself and walked around and stood in front of them. He decided to call me a cunt, ask me what my problem was, and generally act aggressively. On the bus, I had to stand downstairs while the "lady" shrieked at me that I was a "wanker". I was really glad when the bus called into Stoke and we parted ways. My mates had prior engagements so went off, and i an unprecedented move, I decided to have a meal by myself in Spoons. I was minding my own business, eating my tea, when they all decided to mob up on me and tell me I was a dead man, they were going to cut me, as soon as I stepped out of the pub they were going to kick the shit out of me, etc. Spoons staff were shit. The police were worse. In my 30 years on Earth, this was the only time in which I was honestly scared for my life. They were staring at me as I ate, they moved when I moved, they were mouthing "cunt" at me etc. I rang the police and they couldn't care less. The manager at Spoons wanted me out when I complained. The bird was shrieking lies that I threatened her with a knife and put a fag out on her cheek. Just... What? There's some vile bloody scum out there. Edit, I'm home now. The Police have just rung me back. I first contacted them an hour ago. Shit. Grass
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Post by kustokie on Aug 20, 2019 0:51:58 GMT
It absolutely is not crap, it's crucial to what we're discussing. Like any other body, if they are unable to provide the service they are charging you for (under threat of violence by the way), they should not be charging you. Having already paid for their protection, I have every right to use them. Just because I don't agree with income tax or council tax doesn't stop me from being able to use the service. There is always room for the police, it is a legitimate role of government to provide this. It should be paid for via a voluntary subscription though. Do only subscribers get to use the service? This is pretty straightforward. You dial 999 (or 911 in the US), they check that your subscription is up to date. If it is, they dispatch the police, fire or ambulance. If not, you’re on your own.
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Post by felonious on Aug 20, 2019 7:10:33 GMT
.... in conjunction with a simple mind Jim Kerr or Charlie Burchill? The two of them were sitting side by side on a BBC programme discussing longevity in bands. Jim Kerr "It's like a marriage although I haven't slept with him and he won't be walking away with my house"
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Post by felonious on Aug 20, 2019 7:11:58 GMT
Fuck theesen off, theetonna rightin thed. Bit harsh on Boother mate.
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Post by felonious on Aug 20, 2019 7:13:13 GMT
I was queuing up for the bus back into Stoke. Two lads and a girl decided they'd just disregard everyone else and cut in. Normally I would ignore it but some bloke behind me shouted "Queue's back there". For once in my life I decided to stick up for myself and walked around and stood in front of them. He decided to call me a cunt, ask me what my problem was, and generally act aggressively. On the bus, I had to stand downstairs while the "lady" shrieked at me that I was a "wanker". I was really glad when the bus called into Stoke and we parted ways. My mates had prior engagements so went off, and i an unprecedented move, I decided to have a meal by myself in Spoons. I was minding my own business, eating my tea, when they all decided to mob up on me and tell me I was a dead man, they were going to cut me, as soon as I stepped out of the pub they were going to kick the shit out of me, etc. Spoons staff were shit. The police were worse. In my 30 years on Earth, this was the only time in which I was honestly scared for my life. They were staring at me as I ate, they moved when I moved, they were mouthing "cunt" at me etc. I rang the police and they couldn't care less. The manager at Spoons wanted me out when I complained. The bird was shrieking lies that I threatened her with a knife and put a fag out on her cheek. Just... What? There's some vile bloody scum out there. Edit, I'm home now. The Police have just rung me back. I first contacted them an hour ago. Shit. Grass Weed?
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Post by daveandeddy on Aug 20, 2019 12:21:53 GMT
It’s not right but that isn’t the bobby on the streets fault it’s the system. Had similar when someone was roaming Stoke town centre with a bow and arrow. They said until he shots someone with it they can do nowt. I thought it was bollocks because for centuries a bow and arrow was a lethal weapon. You're claiming the decision not to act was no reflection on those heroic cops who were desperate to keep us safe and although they very much wanted to leave the station and walk 50 yds down the road, their superiors were holding them back reminding them "the system" does not allow any action until someone has been hurt/killed. Not sure I buy that. I certainly wouldn't have relished the prospect being a bit of a coward myself but I think the urge to make sure someone didn't suffer life changing injuries or death would have made me do something irrespective of "the system". Sadly I fear it is more sinister than that because had this guy been wandering the streets of Windsor with a bow and arrow there would have be a squadron of helicopters and a battalion of SAS there not to mention the local cops. They could be arsed because people in Stoke town centre or the girl trapped in McDs are simply not worth bothering with and they simply don't give a shit. Out of interest where was the girl from, white, posh? The cops are like Jeremy Kyle, they love to have scum out there or entertainment, occasionally getting bored and hacked off and so come down on some nice soft targets like the sad old pissed twat fighting with traffic cones needing 8 cops, or like when that cop beat up the newsagent trying to find a way through some crowd trouble and killed him. The recent tragic killing by those scumbags does remind us how the police do often put their lives on the line and we're thankful for it. It's their selectivity that is the problem and why one of their guys is found to have done something wrong they move heaven and earth to get the charges dropped. Sometimes you have to be proactive with our Police force and I do think the bad press is more to do with the rules restricting them.... A few Years ago now I was working away in Nottingham and got back home about 8.00 ish... Went to sat goodnight to my little lad ( bigger than me now! ) when all of a sudden his bedroom started bouncing to music... Some lads had moved into a house behind me and after sticking 2 speakers into their bedroom windows were belting out music. Clearly just to piss off others... My ex wife told me they did it the night before as well when I stayed over in Notts. I went downstairs and rang the police whose response was that it was not a police matter... I said don't matter then because I am going round to the house to sort it myself. They were round in 5 minutes because I had threatened to breach the peace. They were ok with me though and went round and closed the scrotes down and read them the riot act. When they went I shouted over that the next time they acted like pricks then I would miss out the phone call and pop around. Never heard a peep after that. As a previous poster pointed out its the system that's at fault rather than the bobbies in a lot of cases .
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