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Post by franklin66 on Jul 28, 2019 19:34:27 GMT
Fo you have any recent examples of these "disgraceful comments."? I've neither the time or inclination to look but I'm sure you've seen them too. Anyway, I'm off for a curry. Post of the day top man criticising admin about time to moderate a massive forum then ending it with "I have no time or inclination" bravo.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2019 19:34:46 GMT
No ban though. I'll be honest with you Bayern. I find your posts tedious but there's a line that should never be crossed. There’s always two sides to every story, and unfortunately you have only heard one ! It was a ongoing thread about a Nathan Jones interview at about 02.26 am, and as usual we had the negative post by the angelic Bayernoatcake and having a quick look back at my posts it may have been the first time that I have responded to one of his positive posts ! Now if Bayernoatcake took offence to what was posted by myself then it was quickly taken down, but I can assure you that it was not a direction that he/she should take their own life ? If I had then I would be the first one to accept a ban. I don’t hide behind a keyboard and I can take criticism either being in jest or on a serious point, just as good as I can give it out ! Isn’t that we all accept when we post on this site ? I agree that there are lines that should not be crossed, but also if you are continually bleating on about your disenchantments of all things concerning Stoke City then you’re asking for the appropriate response to your negativity, that’s the nature of the beast . So you're saying Bayern is lying then? We've heard Bayern's version of what you said to him, what did you REALLY say to him?
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Post by gibby1409 on Jul 28, 2019 19:45:26 GMT
I've neither the time or inclination to look but I'm sure you've seen them too. Anyway, I'm off for a curry. So you've just posted a load of posts accusing Admin of not moderating the board effectively and when Admin then ask you to help them out by directing them to these "disgraceful comments" (your words), you reply by saying that you can't be arsed to do so? You really can't see what a complete and utter self entitled tit that makes you look? And you have the audacity to complain about the contributions from people on this messageboard? Paul/Dave I think you’re maybe missing the original point, and homing in on a comment about “Disgraceful” posts. The OP started this off about negativity, and the trolling of quite a few posters who put a positive comment on. This added to the general almost poisonous tone on the board as a whole, just discourages many people from joining the debate. This is what got my attention, and I did and still do, strongly agree with the OP. I mentioned about the moderators too, and how I think the board is poorly moderated, which is not helping in keeping a great forum going and growing. I also mentioned that it’s a thankless job, and I believe it’s almost a no win situation. But equally, the Mods, should be able to take constructive criticism where it’s justified. This kind of feedback, whilst it can annoy people, is generally a good thing, and should lead to changes/ improvements. I’ve seen very few comments from Admin during my time on the Oatie, which could be read as either good or bad. Interestingly there was one on this thread, but as I said earlier, rather than us focusing on disgraceful comments, then lets focus on the flooding of posts and general slagging off of posters who have the temerity to post something positive about the team, the manager, new signings etc etc. Anyway, win on Saturday, and all this bollocks is forgotten 😊
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Post by onefatcopper on Jul 28, 2019 19:47:52 GMT
There’s always two sides to every story, and unfortunately you have only heard one ! It was a ongoing thread about a Nathan Jones interview at about 02.26 am, and as usual we had the negative post by the angelic Bayernoatcake and having a quick look back at my posts it may have been the first time that I have responded to one of his positive posts ! Now if Bayernoatcake took offence to what was posted by myself then it was quickly taken down, but I can assure you that it was not a direction that he/she should take their own life ? If I had then I would be the first one to accept a ban. I don’t hide behind a keyboard and I can take criticism either being in jest or on a serious point, just as good as I can give it out ! Isn’t that we all accept when we post on this site ? I agree that there are lines that should not be crossed, but also if you are continually bleating on about your disenchantments of all things concerning Stoke City then you’re asking for the appropriate response to your negativity, that’s the nature of the beast . So you're saying Bayern is lying then? We've heard Bayern's version of what you said to him, what did you REALLY say to him? I questioned his state of mind!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 28, 2019 19:51:15 GMT
So you've just posted a load of posts accusing Admin of not moderating the board effectively and when Admin then ask you to help them out by directing them to these "disgraceful comments" (your words), you reply by saying that you can't be arsed to do so? You really can't see what a complete and utter self entitled tit that makes you look? And you have the audacity to complain about the contributions from people on this messageboard? Paul/Dave I think you’re maybe missing the original point, and homing in on a comment about “Disgraceful” posts. The OP started this off about negativity, and the trolling of quite a few posters who put a positive comment on. This added to the general almost poisonous tone on the board as a whole, just discourages many people from joining the debate. This is what got my attention, and I did and still do, strongly agree with the OP. I mentioned about the moderators too, and how I think the board is poorly moderated, which is not helping in keeping a great forum going and growing. I also mentioned that it’s a thankless job, and I believe it’s almost a no win situation. But equally, the Mods, should be able to take constructive criticism where it’s justified. This kind of feedback, whilst it can annoy people, is generally a good thing, and should lead to changes/ improvements. I’ve seen very few comments from Admin during my time on the Oatie, which could be read as either good or bad. Interestingly there was one on this thread, but as I said earlier, rather than us focusing on disgraceful comments, then lets focus on the flooding of posts and general slagging off of posters who have the temerity to post something positive about the team, the manager, new signings etc etc. Anyway, win on Saturday, and all this bollocks is forgotten 😊 What if people just say what they see? Happy clappers are just as bad as those who moan for sake of it. I think our new keeper is toss. I don't think there was any need to make our biggest transfer a player who effectively takes the place of an excellent youngster. I'm worried that Jones is the next coming of Alan ball. I'm delighted that the boys appear fitter and happier than previous seasons so the manager takes credit for that. I'm also pleased the clear out has started. We need to do whatever it takes to be rid of a host of players and we've done that. Fair play again. I'll praise where it is due, criticise where I feel it appropriate. I think most do that to be fair
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 19:52:23 GMT
So you've just posted a load of posts accusing Admin of not moderating the board effectively and when Admin then ask you to help them out by directing them to these "disgraceful comments" (your words), you reply by saying that you can't be arsed to do so? You really can't see what a complete and utter self entitled tit that makes you look? And you have the audacity to complain about the contributions from people on this messageboard? Paul/Dave I think you’re maybe missing the original point, and homing in on a comment about “Disgraceful” posts. The OP started this off about negativity, and the trolling of quite a few posters who put a positive comment on. This added to the general almost poisonous tone on the board as a whole, just discourages many people from joining the debate. This is what got my attention, and I did and still do, strongly agree with the OP. I mentioned about the moderators too, and how I think the board is poorly moderated, which is not helping in keeping a great forum going and growing. I also mentioned that it’s a thankless job, and I believe it’s almost a no win situation. But equally, the Mods, should be able to take constructive criticism where it’s justified. This kind of feedback, whilst it can annoy people, is generally a good thing, and should lead to changes/ improvements. I’ve seen very few comments from Admin during my time on the Oatie, which could be read as either good or bad. Interestingly there was one on this thread, but as I said earlier, rather than us focusing on disgraceful comments, then lets focus on the flooding of posts and general slagging off of posters who have the temerity to post something positive about the team, the manager, new signings etc etc. Anyway, win on Saturday, and all this bollocks is forgotten 😊 No it didn’t at all. The OP started with a comment on negative which then within 5 pages turned into a personal attack on one particular poster who is perceived to be “negative” by a number of posters who think they are “positive”. And fish’s original outburst was about the said negative poster apparently being told to “commit suicide”. Which admin did delete. Such personal attacks are clearly not on but you not liking someone one views is not the same. Challenge those views or ignore them. It’s nothing to do with admin. It’s not their job to moderate views you don’t like.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2019 19:52:41 GMT
So you're saying Bayern is lying then? We've heard Bayern's version of what you said to him, what did you REALLY say to him? I questioned his state of mind! So you're not going to tell us what you actually SAID then?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2019 19:58:24 GMT
So you've just posted a load of posts accusing Admin of not moderating the board effectively and when Admin then ask you to help them out by directing them to these "disgraceful comments" (your words), you reply by saying that you can't be arsed to do so? You really can't see what a complete and utter self entitled tit that makes you look? And you have the audacity to complain about the contributions from people on this messageboard? Paul/Dave I think you’re maybe missing the original point, and homing in on a comment about “Disgraceful” posts. The OP started this off about negativity, and the trolling of quite a few posters who put a positive comment on. This added to the general almost poisonous tone on the board as a whole, just discourages many people from joining the debate. This is what got my attention, and I did and still do, strongly agree with the OP. I mentioned about the moderators too, and how I think the board is poorly moderated, which is not helping in keeping a great forum going and growing. I also mentioned that it’s a thankless job, and I believe it’s almost a no win situation. But equally, the Mods, should be able to take constructive criticism where it’s justified. This kind of feedback, whilst it can annoy people, is generally a good thing, and should lead to changes/ improvements. I’ve seen very few comments from Admin during my time on the Oatie, which could be read as either good or bad. Interestingly there was one on this thread, but as I said earlier, rather than us focusing on disgraceful comments, then lets focus on the flooding of posts and general slagging off of posters who have the temerity to post something positive about the team, the manager, new signings etc etc. Anyway, win on Saturday, and all this bollocks is forgotten 😊 No I'm focussing on the comments of a specific poster who slagged admin for not (in his opinion) doing their job properly, who, when admin appealed for help in identifying what he had an actual issue with, said he couldn't be arsed to help them. Absolutely appalling attitude from somebody complaining about the attitude of others on here.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 28, 2019 19:58:49 GMT
So you've just posted a load of posts accusing Admin of not moderating the board effectively and when Admin then ask you to help them out by directing them to these "disgraceful comments" (your words), you reply by saying that you can't be arsed to do so? You really can't see what a complete and utter self entitled tit that makes you look? And you have the audacity to complain about the contributions from people on this messageboard? Paul/Dave I think you’re maybe missing the original point, and homing in on a comment about “Disgraceful” posts. The OP started this off about negativity, and the trolling of quite a few posters who put a positive comment on. This added to the general almost poisonous tone on the board as a whole, just discourages many people from joining the debate. This is what got my attention, and I did and still do, strongly agree with the OP. I mentioned about the moderators too, and how I think the board is poorly moderated, which is not helping in keeping a great forum going and growing. I also mentioned that it’s a thankless job, and I believe it’s almost a no win situation. But equally, the Mods, should be able to take constructive criticism where it’s justified. This kind of feedback, whilst it can annoy people, is generally a good thing, and should lead to changes/ improvements. I’ve seen very few comments from Admin during my time on the Oatie, which could be read as either good or bad. Interestingly there was one on this thread, but as I said earlier, rather than us focusing on disgraceful comments, then lets focus on the flooding of posts and general slagging off of posters who have the temerity to post something positive about the team, the manager, new signings etc etc. Anyway, win on Saturday, and all this bollocks is forgotten 😊 On a serious note from somebody who ran/owned a website forum for many years it's very difficult to see everything. I had several moderators fellow admin but they all had lives outside of the site. We caught up when we were online, but this is where this site gets interesting it's massive with thousands of threads thousands of posts pages move on very quickly and it's impossible to monitor. It takes some "self" moderating by bringing inappropriate posts to the attention of admin/ moderators. I had several hundred members this has tens of thousands it becomes a victim of it's own success. There are word filters that could be used to stop abusive words etc but that is a decision for the owners to decide where to draw the line between censorship and allowing debate be that heated and passionate. I have enormous admiration for then even though I've had run ins with them before. Their site their rules you agree to those when you register. As shite as some things are it will be a massive miss once it's gone, shame it can't be taken over and continued. I would be interested but it would be a massive task it would need a small army to work it.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 28, 2019 19:59:36 GMT
I think the line ultimately starts at personal abuse. I saw the late JohnButlersHair horrifically abused on here about his illness and I’m fairly certain the poster was banned instantly, I’ve not seen him back since anyway. Posts contrary to your opinion don’t constitute moderation imo, however much they may lack in thought or sense.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2019 20:03:13 GMT
Paul/Dave I think you’re maybe missing the original point, and homing in on a comment about “Disgraceful” posts. The OP started this off about negativity, and the trolling of quite a few posters who put a positive comment on. This added to the general almost poisonous tone on the board as a whole, just discourages many people from joining the debate. This is what got my attention, and I did and still do, strongly agree with the OP. I mentioned about the moderators too, and how I think the board is poorly moderated, which is not helping in keeping a great forum going and growing. I also mentioned that it’s a thankless job, and I believe it’s almost a no win situation. But equally, the Mods, should be able to take constructive criticism where it’s justified. This kind of feedback, whilst it can annoy people, is generally a good thing, and should lead to changes/ improvements. I’ve seen very few comments from Admin during my time on the Oatie, which could be read as either good or bad. Interestingly there was one on this thread, but as I said earlier, rather than us focusing on disgraceful comments, then lets focus on the flooding of posts and general slagging off of posters who have the temerity to post something positive about the team, the manager, new signings etc etc. Anyway, win on Saturday, and all this bollocks is forgotten 😊 On a serious note from somebody who ran/owned a website forum for many years it's very difficult to see everything. I have several moderators fellow admin but they all had lives outside of the site. We caught up when we were online, but this is where this site gets interesting it's massive with thousands of threads thousands or posts pages move on very quickly and it's impossible to monitor. It takes some "self" moderating by bringing inappropriate posts to the attention of admin/ moderators. I had several hundred members this has tens of thousands it becomes a victim of it's own success. There are word filters that could be used to stop abusive words etc but that is a decision for the owners to decide where to draw the line between censorship and allowing debate be that heated and passionate. I have enormous admiration for then even though I've had run one with them before. Their site their rules you agree to those when you register. As shite as some things are it will be a massive miss once it's gone, shame it can't be taken over and continued. I would be interested but it would be a massive task it would need a small army to work it. I think this forum is moderated brilliantly on the whole.
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Post by gibby1409 on Jul 28, 2019 20:04:48 GMT
Paul/Dave I think you’re maybe missing the original point, and homing in on a comment about “Disgraceful” posts. The OP started this off about negativity, and the trolling of quite a few posters who put a positive comment on. This added to the general almost poisonous tone on the board as a whole, just discourages many people from joining the debate. This is what got my attention, and I did and still do, strongly agree with the OP. I mentioned about the moderators too, and how I think the board is poorly moderated, which is not helping in keeping a great forum going and growing. I also mentioned that it’s a thankless job, and I believe it’s almost a no win situation. But equally, the Mods, should be able to take constructive criticism where it’s justified. This kind of feedback, whilst it can annoy people, is generally a good thing, and should lead to changes/ improvements. I’ve seen very few comments from Admin during my time on the Oatie, which could be read as either good or bad. Interestingly there was one on this thread, but as I said earlier, rather than us focusing on disgraceful comments, then lets focus on the flooding of posts and general slagging off of posters who have the temerity to post something positive about the team, the manager, new signings etc etc. Anyway, win on Saturday, and all this bollocks is forgotten 😊 No it didn’t at all. The OP started with a comment on negative which then within 5 pages turned into a personal attack on one particular poster who is perceived to be “negative” by a number of posters who think they are “positive”. br] And fish’s original outburst was about the said negative poster apparently being told to “commit suicide”. Which admin did delete. Such personal attacks are clearly not on but you not liking someone one views is not the same. Challenge those views or ignore them. It’s nothing to do with admin. It’s not their job to moderate views you don’t like. So you’re agreeing with me that the OP started with a comment about negativity? And then the trolling started after a few pages? Not liking is not the issue. It’s the general negativity, and people wanting to be proved right rather than wanting the team to win that sticks in many people’s throats. I, not asking them to moderate views I don’t like, that’s just nonsense which if you’ve read my previous comments is clearly not true. I’m asking for them to moderate how middle of the road posters get mobbed and then don’t bother posting again. If you can’t see that this will be the end of this message board then it’s a shame. Any good message board needs strong Admin, and whether you agree or not, I don’t think we have.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 28, 2019 20:06:25 GMT
On a serious note from somebody who ran/owned a website forum for many years it's very difficult to see everything. I have several moderators fellow admin but they all had lives outside of the site. We caught up when we were online, but this is where this site gets interesting it's massive with thousands of threads thousands or posts pages move on very quickly and it's impossible to monitor. It takes some "self" moderating by bringing inappropriate posts to the attention of admin/ moderators. I had several hundred members this has tens of thousands it becomes a victim of it's own success. There are word filters that could be used to stop abusive words etc but that is a decision for the owners to decide where to draw the line between censorship and allowing debate be that heated and passionate. I have enormous admiration for then even though I've had run one with them before. Their site their rules you agree to those when you register. As shite as some things are it will be a massive miss once it's gone, shame it can't be taken over and continued. I would be interested but it would be a massive task it would need a small army to work it. I think this forum is moderated brilliantly on the whole. Paul given it's size it's very well run, if they do close it I have a genuine interest to help or to save/reinvent but it would need plenty of help.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 28, 2019 20:07:27 GMT
On a serious note from somebody who ran/owned a website forum for many years it's very difficult to see everything. I have several moderators fellow admin but they all had lives outside of the site. We caught up when we were online, but this is where this site gets interesting it's massive with thousands of threads thousands or posts pages move on very quickly and it's impossible to monitor. It takes some "self" moderating by bringing inappropriate posts to the attention of admin/ moderators. I had several hundred members this has tens of thousands it becomes a victim of it's own success. There are word filters that could be used to stop abusive words etc but that is a decision for the owners to decide where to draw the line between censorship and allowing debate be that heated and passionate. I have enormous admiration for then even though I've had run one with them before. Their site their rules you agree to those when you register. As shite as some things are it will be a massive miss once it's gone, shame it can't be taken over and continued. I would be interested but it would be a massive task it would need a small army to work it. I think this forum is moderated brilliantly on the whole. If you ever visit opposition boards, I think that this forum is brilliant on the whole, including moderators. There are some superb people who post as well. The written word, especially the tone, can often be misconstrued, but to.a man, every poster I've ever met from this forum, be it by design or accident, has been a top person.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:08:16 GMT
I have to say i'm amazed that we have got to 10 pages and there are no threats of a little 'dance' around the statue on Saturday. Times are a changing! In the old days there would be about 6 meet ups already arranged with another half a dozen on the way.
Kids these days!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2019 20:09:14 GMT
No it didn’t at all. The OP started with a comment on negative which then within 5 pages turned into a personal attack on one particular poster who is perceived to be “negative” by a number of posters who think they are “positive”. br] And fish’s original outburst was about the said negative poster apparently being told to “commit suicide”. Which admin did delete. Such personal attacks are clearly not on but you not liking someone one views is not the same. Challenge those views or ignore them. It’s nothing to do with admin. It’s not their job to moderate views you don’t like. So you’re agreeing with me that the OP started with a comment about negativity? And then the trolling started after a few pages? Not liking is not the issue. It’s the general negativity, and people wanting to be proved right rather than wanting the team to win that sticks in many people’s throats. I, not asking them to moderate views I don’t like, that’s just nonsense which if you’ve read my previous comments is clearly not true. I’m asking for them to moderate how middle of the road posters get mobbed and then don’t bother posting again. If you can’t see that this will be the end of this message board then it’s a shame. Any good message board needs strong Admin, and whether you agree or not, I don’t think we have. Out of interest Gibby, have you ever contacted Admin directly and pointed them in the direction of specific issues you've had with the forum?
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Post by cdlstoke on Jul 28, 2019 20:09:37 GMT
It’s a message board. I couldn’t give a fuck if people agree or not. I don’t post a great lot and I don’t always read what’s been said in great detail. I reply to some then realise I’ve fucked up.lol I have a proper life so not going lose sleep over it. But some on here think they can call people names just because they don’t agree. Sorrerson or whatever his name is and a few more, can’t be bothered keep track who they are.? I just laugh at them. If they really disagree that much, why don’t they have the bollocks say it to there face on match day. Do you really think anyone gives a fuck if they like them or not. I piss myself on here how defensive people are. It’s a bit of fun and banter. Do you really think all of the posters on here are writing genuine things? Anyway enjoy your shit weather as I’m in Alanya red hot and 24hr all inclusive.😎 I know I shouldn’t have put emoji as I’m 48 according to someone on here.🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:10:47 GMT
No it didn’t at all. The OP started with a comment on negative which then within 5 pages turned into a personal attack on one particular poster who is perceived to be “negative” by a number of posters who think they are “positive”. br] And fish’s original outburst was about the said negative poster apparently being told to “commit suicide”. Which admin did delete. Such personal attacks are clearly not on but you not liking someone one views is not the same. Challenge those views or ignore them. It’s nothing to do with admin. It’s not their job to moderate views you don’t like. So you’re agreeing with me that the OP started with a comment about negativity? And then the trolling started after a few pages? Not liking is not the issue. It’s the general negativity, and people wanting to be proved right rather than wanting the team to win that sticks in many people’s throats. I, not asking them to moderate views I don’t like, that’s just nonsense which if you’ve read my previous comments is clearly not true. I’m asking for them to moderate how middle of the road posters get mobbed and then don’t bother posting again. If you can’t see that this will be the end of this message board then it’s a shame. Any good message board needs strong Admin, and whether you agree or not, I don’t think we have. Admin do a great job. Where were you when everyone was slagging off Bayern? Did you step in and say - hang on a minute personal abuse isn’t on or did you just carry on moaning about people being negative? It’s pathetic coming on whinging about admin. The very people complaining about people being negative were the ones attacking Bayern. Posts like yours will be the end of the message board because Admin might well turn round and think well we won’t bother then. Its pathetic. You think someone gone to far personally. You call them out on it. They can’t be expected to read every single post. Your original posts weren’t even about personal abuse you were just moaning about other people being negative. Which is hypocrisy at its finest.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 28, 2019 20:11:53 GMT
I think this forum is moderated brilliantly on the whole. If you ever visit opposition boards, I think that this forum is brilliant on the whole, including moderators. There are some superb people who post as well. The written word, especially the tone, can often be misconstrued, but to.a man, every poster I've ever met from this forum, be it by design or accident, has been a top person. That's true mate it's difficult sometimes to convey a point in type. I often post short blunt posts and don't make it clear what I fully meant. That causes debate 😁
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Post by onefatcopper on Jul 28, 2019 20:12:04 GMT
Paul/Dave I think you’re maybe missing the original point, and homing in on a comment about “Disgraceful” posts. The OP started this off about negativity, and the trolling of quite a few posters who put a positive comment on. This added to the general almost poisonous tone on the board as a whole, just discourages many people from joining the debate. This is what got my attention, and I did and still do, strongly agree with the OP. I mentioned about the moderators too, and how I think the board is poorly moderated, which is not helping in keeping a great forum going and growing. I also mentioned that it’s a thankless job, and I believe it’s almost a no win situation. But equally, the Mods, should be able to take constructive criticism where it’s justified. This kind of feedback, whilst it can annoy people, is generally a good thing, and should lead to changes/ improvements. I’ve seen very few comments from Admin during my time on the Oatie, which could be read as either good or bad. Interestingly there was one on this thread, but as I said earlier, rather than us focusing on disgraceful comments, then lets focus on the flooding of posts and general slagging off of posters who have the temerity to post something positive about the team, the manager, new signings etc etc. Anyway, win on Saturday, and all this bollocks is forgotten 😊 No it didn’t at all. The OP started with a comment on negative which then within 5 pages turned into a personal attack on one particular poster who is perceived to be “negative” by a number of posters who think they are “positive”. And fish’s original outburst was about the said negative poster apparently being told to “commit suicide”. Which admin did delete. Such personal attacks are clearly not on but you not liking someone one views is not the same. Challenge those views or ignore them. It’s nothing to do with admin. It’s not their job to moderate views you don’t like. Like you have just put “APPARENTLY being told to commit suicide” where’s the victim in this story ?perhaps they have the definitive proof of this misdemeanour, if I’m guilty then I am willing to accept any punishment that Admin pass. So come on Bayernoatcake let’s get this story out and put some perspective on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:13:39 GMT
No it didn’t at all. The OP started with a comment on negative which then within 5 pages turned into a personal attack on one particular poster who is perceived to be “negative” by a number of posters who think they are “positive”. And fish’s original outburst was about the said negative poster apparently being told to “commit suicide”. Which admin did delete. Such personal attacks are clearly not on but you not liking someone one views is not the same. Challenge those views or ignore them. It’s nothing to do with admin. It’s not their job to moderate views you don’t like. Like you have just put “APPARENTLY being told to commit suicide” where’s the victim in this story ?perhaps they have the definitive proof of this misdemeanour, if I’m guilty then I am willing to accept any punishment that Admin pass. So come on Bayernoatcake let’s get this story out and put some perspective on it. You literally said earlier that you did say it but it was ok because admin blocked it. Now you’re saying you didn’t say it but won’t say what you did say. I’d just stop digging to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:15:48 GMT
It’s a message board. I couldn’t give a fuck if people agree or not. I don’t post a great lot and I don’t always read what’s been said in great detail. I reply to some then realise I’ve fucked up.lol I have a proper life so not going lose sleep over it. But some on here think they can call people names just because they don’t agree. Sorrerson or whatever his name is and a few more, can’t be bothered keep track who they are.? I just laugh at them. If they really disagree that much, why don’t they have the bollocks say it to there face on match day. Do you really think anyone gives a fuck if they like them or not. I piss myself on here how defensive people are. It’s a bit of fun and banter. Do you really think all of the posters on here are writing genuine things? Anyway enjoy your shit weather as I’m in Alanya red hot and 24hr all inclusive.😎 I know I shouldn’t have put emoji as I’m 48 according to someone on here.🤣🤣🤣 You want to back them statements up with some evidence?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2019 20:15:53 GMT
No it didn’t at all. The OP started with a comment on negative which then within 5 pages turned into a personal attack on one particular poster who is perceived to be “negative” by a number of posters who think they are “positive”. And fish’s original outburst was about the said negative poster apparently being told to “commit suicide”. Which admin did delete. Such personal attacks are clearly not on but you not liking someone one views is not the same. Challenge those views or ignore them. It’s nothing to do with admin. It’s not their job to moderate views you don’t like. Like you have just put “APPARENTLY being told to commit suicide” where’s the victim in this story ?perhaps they have the definitive proof of this misdemeanour, if I’m guilty then I am willing to accept any punishment that Admin pass. So come on Bayernoatcake let’s get this story out and put some perspective on it. You’ve already admitted it back in this thread. I reported the post and it was deleted immediately.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 28, 2019 20:16:03 GMT
If there is mainly negativity on here then you are a fool if you are offended by that.
Any negativity is because the club has been an embarrassing shambles for several seasons, churning out awful awful football.
I really hope Jones sorts it out and have backed him so far, but on the face of it this looks like another really bad transfer window, and if we don't start well he will deserve to be under the cosh
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2019 20:16:05 GMT
No it didn’t at all. The OP started with a comment on negative which then within 5 pages turned into a personal attack on one particular poster who is perceived to be “negative” by a number of posters who think they are “positive”. And fish’s original outburst was about the said negative poster apparently being told to “commit suicide”. Which admin did delete. Such personal attacks are clearly not on but you not liking someone one views is not the same. Challenge those views or ignore them. It’s nothing to do with admin. It’s not their job to moderate views you don’t like. Like you have just put “APPARENTLY being told to commit suicide” where’s the victim in this story ?perhaps they have the definitive proof of this misdemeanour, if I’m guilty then I am willing to accept any punishment that Admin pass. So come on Bayernoatcake let’s get this story out and put some perspective on it. To be fair Bayern has already made it perfectly clear what he claims you actually said. But you haven't made it clear at all what you claim you ACTUALLY said.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 28, 2019 20:17:36 GMT
If you ever visit opposition boards, I think that this forum is brilliant on the whole, including moderators. There are some superb people who post as well. The written word, especially the tone, can often be misconstrued, but to.a man, every poster I've ever met from this forum, be it by design or accident, has been a top person. That's true mate it's difficult sometimes to convey a point in type. I often post short blunt posts and don't make it clear what I fully meant. That causes debate 😁 I went on a course for work recently and the way you interpret someones tone, be it through email or conversation is often determined by your own mood/thoughts rather than the person saying/typing the words. It was really quite interesting...and enlightening
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 28, 2019 20:27:44 GMT
I questioned his state of mind! So you're not going to tell us what you actually SAID then? It would only get deleted again 😁
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Post by gibby1409 on Jul 28, 2019 20:28:41 GMT
So you’re agreeing with me that the OP started with a comment about negativity? And then the trolling started after a few pages? Not liking is not the issue. It’s the general negativity, and people wanting to be proved right rather than wanting the team to win that sticks in many people’s throats. I, not asking them to moderate views I don’t like, that’s just nonsense which if you’ve read my previous comments is clearly not true. I’m asking for them to moderate how middle of the road posters get mobbed and then don’t bother posting again. If you can’t see that this will be the end of this message board then it’s a shame. Any good message board needs strong Admin, and whether you agree or not, I don’t think we have. Admin do a great job. Where were you when everyone was slagging off Bayern? Did you step in and say - hang on a minute personal abuse isn’t on or did you just carry on moaning about people being negative? It’s pathetic coming on whinging about admin. The very people complaining about people being negative were the ones attacking Bayern. Posts like yours will be the end of the message board because Admin might well turn round and think well we won’t bother then. Its pathetic. You think someone gone to far personally. You call them out on it. They can’t be expected to read every single post. Your original posts weren’t even about personal abuse you were just moaning about other people being negative. Which is hypocrisy at its finest. If you think me making comments about the level of negativity will be the death of this message board, then I'm sorry mate, you're deluded? Also I think you're missing the distinction between being negative towards the club, manager, players & other posters, and me pointing out the level of negativity on here? Completely different pal! In the same way that I don't need anyone to defend me, then I'm pretty sure Bayern can fight his own battles, heaven knows he starts enough And as you say about Admin, "They Can't Be Expected to Read Every Post" is probably the reason I've never read posts slagging off Bayern. If you truly think that Admin do a great job, then fine, that's your opinion, but don't expect me to agree with you. And if Admin are above constructive criticism, then yes, the board will disappear, but if you think this board is improving rather than regressing, then again, we'll have to disagree.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 28, 2019 20:32:46 GMT
The board certainly does seem like a microcosm of the modern world in the sense that increasingly large numbers of people seem incapable of understanding that their personal offence or irritation about somebody’s opinion does not entitle them to demand censorship, abuse or generally expect some special attention to be paid to their outrage.
If you don’t like “negativity”, challenge the points and we can have a discussion. Or ignore it. That’s what the board is for. The self-important complaining and tone-policing of everything is tedious and adds nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:34:32 GMT
Admin do a great job. Where were you when everyone was slagging off Bayern? Did you step in and say - hang on a minute personal abuse isn’t on or did you just carry on moaning about people being negative? It’s pathetic coming on whinging about admin. The very people complaining about people being negative were the ones attacking Bayern. Posts like yours will be the end of the message board because Admin might well turn round and think well we won’t bother then. Its pathetic. You think someone gone to far personally. You call them out on it. They can’t be expected to read every single post. Your original posts weren’t even about personal abuse you were just moaning about other people being negative. Which is hypocrisy at its finest. If you think me making comments about the level of negativity will be the death of this message board, then I'm sorry mate, you're deluded? Also I think you're missing the distinction between being negative towards the club, manager, players & other posters, and me pointing out the level of negativity on here? Completely different pal! In the same way that I don't need anyone to defend me, then I'm pretty sure Bayern can fight his own battles, heaven knows he starts enough And as you say about Admin, "They Can't Be Expected to Read Every Post" is probably the reason I've never read posts slagging off Bayern. If you truly think that Admin do a great job, then fine, that's your opinion, but don't expect me to agree with you. And if Admin are above constructive criticism, then yes, the board will disappear, but if you think this board is improving rather than regressing, then again, we'll have to disagree. No I think you moaning about admin could mean they don’t bother and it shuts down as a result. If Bayern can fight his own battles then admin don’t need to do anything do they. Absolutely classic that you’ve called me deluded too. At least practice what you preach.
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