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Post by staffsvilla on Jul 28, 2019 10:57:50 GMT
Any real football fan regardless of who they support can only wish Ryan well in his recovery from a horrible injury, anyone who thinks, writes or posts otherwise in my opinion is a total weapon
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Post by thefarpost on Jul 28, 2019 11:08:05 GMT
I might be wrong but broken bones isn’t as bad as damaged ligaments? Obviously it is devastating and I am so gutted for him (and stoke) - and I’m by no means saying otherwise - but could it have been worse if ligaments had been torn? This is my understanding too. Loosely broken bones are bad, but you can recover completely from, but ligaments you never recover from and sometimes you don't return from.
Many years ago a friend had a collision with a motorbike. Typically when riders fall off motorbikes they trap one leg and stretch/damage ligaments, which happened in this case.
The motorcyclist still walks with the aid of a stick some thirty years later.
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Post by stokies on Jul 28, 2019 11:44:53 GMT
I have it on good authority from the hospital he’s broken his leg, described “a terrible break”.
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Post by robboleek on Jul 28, 2019 11:53:15 GMT
I have it on good authority from the hospital he’s broken his leg, described “a terrible break”. I have only seen the videos but this would add up, in my opinion it looked way too high to be an ankle injury.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 28, 2019 12:02:00 GMT
Balance of patient confidentiality and communication but stoke again lacking in PR if only to put out a holding statement which ends the speculation , ie “in relation to the considerable concern about our brilliant skipper , we Don’t know precise detail scans and examinations under way etc , surgery Sunday statement released monday , no further news until then , it’s odd because recently in the sad example of Gordon’s loss we were excellent , but just seem to have lost our way again recently , unless I’ve missed it of course
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Post by thefarpost on Jul 28, 2019 17:32:57 GMT
A physio friend has looked at the incident - his verdict is a bad break plus other serious damage. Could be career ending. Sad, sad day for the player and his family.
Might explain why there has been nothing much from the club.
I hope that this isn't an omen for the coming season.
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Post by Davef on Jul 28, 2019 17:43:32 GMT
Balance of patient confidentiality and communication but stoke again lacking in PR if only to put out a holding statement which ends the speculation , ie “in relation to the considerable concern about our brilliant skipper , we Don’t know precise detail scans and examinations under way etc , surgery Sunday statement released monday , no further news until then , it’s odd because recently in the sad example of Gordon’s loss we were excellent , but just seem to have lost our way again recently , unless I’ve missed it of course Why the need to know every minute detail? We all saw what happened. It's a bad injury that will likely keep Ryan out for most of next season at least. When the club have confirmation of the exact injury and the time he's likely to be out, they'll put it on the official site. It's pretty poor form to use Ryan's injury as a stick to beat the club with, even by your standards.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 28, 2019 17:53:32 GMT
Balance of patient confidentiality and communication but stoke again lacking in PR if only to put out a holding statement which ends the speculation , ie “in relation to the considerable concern about our brilliant skipper , we Don’t know precise detail scans and examinations under way etc , surgery Sunday statement released monday , no further news until then , it’s odd because recently in the sad example of Gordon’s loss we were excellent , but just seem to have lost our way again recently , unless I’ve missed it of course Why the need to know every minute detail? We all saw what happened. It's a bad injury that will likely keep Ryan out for most of next season at least. When the club have confirmation of the exact injury and the time he's likely to be out, they'll put it on the official site. It's pretty poor form to use Ryan's injury as a stick to beat the club with, even by your standards. Utterly pathetic post and to use Ryan’s injury as a battle ground with me is beneath even your contemptible low bar , you’ll see I have expressed only Concern for Ryan and praise for his contribution , equally my observation on the club was very balanced with praise for the way other issues were handled but pointing out proactive management of PR can prevent ill informed speculation which can cause distress for friends and family . I’m sure most executives would welcome fair balanced and constructive challenge .
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 28, 2019 20:56:14 GMT
A physio friend has looked at the incident - his verdict is a bad break plus other serious damage. Could be career ending. Sad, sad day for the player and his family. Might explain why there has been nothing much from the club. I hope that this isn't an omen for the coming season. I dont think at this moment anyone can say that injury is career ending g, far too early. When you look at some of the breaks that players have recovered from such as Luke shaw. I dont think such decisions will be made until further down the line of recovery. Probably nothing from the club as they will be waiting for results from xrays, scans etc. Consultants will be looking as to wether he needs surgery, pinning, plating etc. He may have a break that is hampered with severe ligament damage/ rupture. The swelling will be horrendous and if ankle is dislocated as well as broken then there will be alot more investigating to do. Dont be surprised if Ryan underwent surgery at some point today and the club havent said anything yet. The most important thing is that Ryan is a patient with an injury that will have detriment on his family life. It wont be until months down the line as to wether we get to see a successful rehabilitation or not
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Post by baystokie on Jul 28, 2019 22:04:01 GMT
Why the need to know every minute detail? We all saw what happened. It's a bad injury that will likely keep Ryan out for most of next season at least. When the club have confirmation of the exact injury and the time he's likely to be out, they'll put it on the official site. It's pretty poor form to use Ryan's injury as a stick to beat the club with, even by your standards. Utterly pathetic post and to use Ryan’s injury as a battle ground with me is beneath even your contemptible low bar , you’ll see I have expressed only Concern for Ryan and praise for his contribution , equally my observation on the club was very balanced with praise for the way other issues were handled but pointing out proactive management of PR can prevent ill informed speculation which can cause distress for friends and family . I’m sure most executives would welcome fair balanced and constructive challenge . No amount of PR will prevent 'ill-informed' speculation on here. It could be that there needs to be more medical investigation before ANY opinion can be expressed. Family and friends are already, and will continue to be, under stress until the medics are prepared to offer their opinion/diagnosis/prognosis (and family should be the first to be so informed). It may be wisest to say nothing until there is factual information available?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 22:06:24 GMT
Utterly pathetic post and to use Ryan’s injury as a battle ground with me is beneath even your contemptible low bar , you’ll see I have expressed only Concern for Ryan and praise for his contribution , equally my observation on the club was very balanced with praise for the way other issues were handled but pointing out proactive management of PR can prevent ill informed speculation which can cause distress for friends and family . I’m sure most executives would welcome fair balanced and constructive challenge . No amount of PR will prevent 'ill-informed' speculation on here. It could be that there needs to be more medical investigation before ANY opinion can be expressed. Family and friends are already, and will continue to be, under stress until the medics are prepared to offer their opinion/diagnosis/prognosis (and family should be the first to be so informed). It may be wisest to say nothing until there is factual information available? Say “we will not know more until further tests are not then”? Just a thought?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 28, 2019 22:14:58 GMT
No amount of PR will prevent 'ill-informed' speculation on here. It could be that there needs to be more medical investigation before ANY opinion can be expressed. Family and friends are already, and will continue to be, under stress until the medics are prepared to offer their opinion/diagnosis/prognosis (and family should be the first to be so informed). It may be wisest to say nothing until there is factual information available? Say “we will not know more until further tests are not then”? Just a thought? Spot on as we’ve Seen today vacuums leave space for speculation to fill , what NJ actually said was spot on but club need to endorse it formally
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 7:51:24 GMT
A physio friend has looked at the incident - his verdict is a bad break plus other serious damage. Could be career ending. Sad, sad day for the player and his family. Might explain why there has been nothing much from the club. I hope that this isn't an omen for the coming season. Looked at it as in A) he’s seen the pictures or B) he’s been part of the assessment team? If it’s A) he has no better idea than anyone else and if it’s B) he needs sacking for breaching patient confidentiality.
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Post by themistocles on Jul 29, 2019 8:08:31 GMT
Fractured his Fibula and dislocated his Ankle.
Probably out for 6 months plus
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Post by walrus on Jul 29, 2019 8:16:00 GMT
Fractured his Fibula and dislocated his Ankle. Probably out for 6 months plus Is that official?
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Post by metalhead on Jul 29, 2019 8:16:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 8:17:16 GMT
Fractured his Fibula and dislocated his Ankle. Probably out for 6 months plus Wait for official confirmation.
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Post by themistocles on Jul 29, 2019 8:25:42 GMT
Fractured his Fibula and dislocated his Ankle. Probably out for 6 months plus Wait for official confirmation. It's just what I've heard.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jul 29, 2019 11:45:02 GMT
He'll be back - it's in his character.....
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 29, 2019 11:48:08 GMT
Fractured his Fibula and dislocated his Ankle. Probably out for 6 months plus Wait for official confirmation. My brother did exactly the same, had it plated. He was out for 6 months and that's without a fitness team behind him like Ryan will have. Least it's his fibula and not tibia or worse both
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Post by derbypotter2 on Jul 29, 2019 12:35:13 GMT
I had a similar break playing football when I was 19. Unfortunately, when the ankle goes beyond 90 degress like that then it's typically accompanied by a break/fracture of the tibia or fibula - or in my case both - as well as the ankle joint dislocating. I ended up with the fibula being plated as well. Although I was back playing football after a year, the joint never had the same movement ever again - which is fine for a third rate hoofer like myself, but a big worry for me where Ryan is concerned. Really hoping that it just looked worse than it actually was. Hoping for the best but sadly fearing the worst. Either way, get well soon Ryan.
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Post by ash on Jul 29, 2019 12:41:07 GMT
Fractured his Fibula and dislocated his Ankle. Probably out for 6 months plus Do you know this or is this an educated guess from seeing the injury? I can understand why the club haven't given any information as yet as somethings are difficult to immediately diagnose due to swelling etc. So I'm happy that the right communication is made in the fullness of time. If that is the case, I am recovering the same thing at the moment. Broke it on 6th April, when it dislocated it also ruptured the ligament holding the ankle together. I had to have the Fibula plated and the Tibia held in place with a large screw for two months to allow the ligament to heal. After that the large screw was removed and a further four weeks non weight bearing followed by partial weight bearing. That said he's in considerably better physical shape than I am so he would hopefully heal quicker than I have. He's got a long road ahead but he's at one of the very best clubs for supporting players "injured in the line of duty". I am sure he will get looked after supremely well and supported every step of the way!
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 29, 2019 12:56:10 GMT
Fractured his Fibula and dislocated his Ankle. Probably out for 6 months plus Do you know this or is this an educated guess from seeing the injury? I can understand why the club haven't given any information as yet as somethings are difficult to immediately diagnose due to swelling etc. So I'm happy that the right communication is made in the fullness of time. If that is the case, I am recovering the same thing at the moment. Broke it on 6th April, when it dislocated it also ruptured the ligament holding the ankle together. I had to have the Fibula plated and the Tibia held in place with a large screw for two months to allow the ligament to heal. After that the large screw was removed and a further four weeks non weight bearing followed by partial weight bearing. That said he's in considerably better physical shape than I am so he would hopefully heal quicker than I have. He's got a long road ahead but he's at one of the very best clubs for supporting players "injured in the line of duty". I am sure he will get looked after supremely well and supported every step of the way! That will teach you going with my wife , I didn’t mean to push you out of the bedroom window , but been serious hope you have a quick recovery 👍
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Post by ash on Jul 29, 2019 12:59:06 GMT
Do you know this or is this an educated guess from seeing the injury? I can understand why the club haven't given any information as yet as somethings are difficult to immediately diagnose due to swelling etc. So I'm happy that the right communication is made in the fullness of time. If that is the case, I am recovering the same thing at the moment. Broke it on 6th April, when it dislocated it also ruptured the ligament holding the ankle together. I had to have the Fibula plated and the Tibia held in place with a large screw for two months to allow the ligament to heal. After that the large screw was removed and a further four weeks non weight bearing followed by partial weight bearing. That said he's in considerably better physical shape than I am so he would hopefully heal quicker than I have. He's got a long road ahead but he's at one of the very best clubs for supporting players "injured in the line of duty". I am sure he will get looked after supremely well and supported every step of the way! That will teach you going with my wife , I didn’t mean to push you out of the bedroom window , but been serious hope you have a quick recovery 👍 Thanks for the best wishes. Due back to the hospital on Thursday, hoping for the all clear so I can get to the game on Saturday! It's a bit of a mission coming up from Oxford but made even more difficult with crutches and this big boot thing I have to wear! BTW, sorry about your wife!
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 29, 2019 13:06:24 GMT
That will teach you going with my wife , I didn’t mean to push you out of the bedroom window , but been serious hope you have a quick recovery 👍 Thanks for the best wishes. Due back to the hospital on Thursday, hoping for the all clear so I can get to the game on Saturday! It's a bit of a mission coming up from Oxford but made even more difficult with crutches and this big boot thing I have to wear! BTW, sorry about your wife! We’ll bring your boots just in case Nath wants to throw you on for the last 20 mins to defend our lead 😎
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 29, 2019 13:33:08 GMT
I think people who are saying it's career threatening really are going over the top.
I did a very similar thing breaking the Tib AND Fib where my foot pointed 90 degrees and I was walking after 14 weeks and running after 20 weeks. I was 36.
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Post by greyman on Jul 29, 2019 13:34:48 GMT
Say “we will not know more until further tests are not then”? Just a thought? Spot on as we’ve Seen today vacuums leave space for speculation to fill , what NJ actually said was spot on but club need to endorse it formally It's only idiots like you doing the speculating though. We all know it's bad and that it will take time for those treating him to know exactly what the details and consequences are. The club are perfectly right not to be matching this messageboard for wild guesses and bullshit.
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Post by kelw on Jul 29, 2019 13:43:31 GMT
I have it on good authority from the hospital he’s broken his leg, described “a terrible break”. Was his ankle Let's see what the club say before we start posting wild speculation
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 14:01:19 GMT
I have it on good authority from the hospital he’s broken his leg, described “a terrible break”. Was his ankle Let's see what the club say before we start posting wild speculation Your fibula is in your shin to ankle
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Post by kelw on Jul 29, 2019 14:11:04 GMT
Wait for official confirmation. It's just what I've heard. Have broken my fibula myself, not pleasant but depending on the injury doesn't necessarily need surgery. The bone itself can heal quickly, is the tendons that take longer to heal. If his ankle/fibula , whatever no-one has a clue let's be honest.
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