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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 16:01:39 GMT
What a shambles ! 9-2 after 5 overs ! Bloody useless Series over after 2 tests. Pathetic.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 17, 2019 16:01:47 GMT
What a shambles our "batsmen" are. We have good reason to fear we are entering one of those all out in a single session sessions.
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 17, 2019 16:02:31 GMT
Just seen that Archer delivery that hit Smith. Ouch! That was a hell of a delivery ! He'd been battered by Archer at high speed around 94 mph. Gives them something to think about for the rest of the series. Did you see the one that hit his arm and the size of the egg that came up ? Pure Filth
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 17, 2019 16:07:30 GMT
What a shambles our "batsmen" are. We have good reason to fear we are entering one of those all out in a single session sessions. Nah, not with Joe "am I really James Vince?" Denly at the crease. He'll see us to the close with no problems.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 17, 2019 17:12:24 GMT
71-4
And it could have been worse.
Our batting is simply awful. The top order blown away. Now it’s down to Stokes and Buttler. Maybe they could pretend they are wearing coloured kit.
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Post by ersaurebot 1, 000, 000 views on Aug 17, 2019 17:51:19 GMT
Reckon we need a 220 lead here to be certain of not losing
Just under 200 and the Aussies will go for it
It’s incredibly well poised!
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 17, 2019 18:19:28 GMT
Our batting may be shit, but the Aussies are in the same boat - well apart from having Smith.
But we've got Joffra.
And that may be the difference.
His bowling this afternoon with an old ball against the best batsman in the world who was well established was sensational.
This is a cracking test.
Can't wait for 11 tomorrow!
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Post by lordb on Aug 17, 2019 20:52:26 GMT
Reckon we need a 220 lead here to be certain of not losing Just under 200 and the Aussies will go for it It’s incredibly well poised! 210 then?
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 17, 2019 21:28:36 GMT
We’ve somehow managed to go from a position this morning where only we could win the match to being in a position now where only the Aussies can realistically win the match.
The spell Archer bowled to Smith should have been bowled this morning, instead we let him score another easy half century and bat Australia into pretty much a no lose situation.
Nothing new to say about our batting, it was painfully obvious we were going to lose wickets and let the Aussies get on top in that last session.
If we’re still batting at lunch tomorrow then it will be a draw. If we’re bowled out in the morning session then it’s curtains.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 10:01:34 GMT
Raining.
Ruins any chance of an England win, yet a collapse could still see us lose.
Need to really dig in for a couple of hours once we eventually get going.....
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2019 10:04:18 GMT
Raining. Ruins any chance of an England win, yet a collapse could still see us lose. Need to really dig in for a couple of hours once we eventually get going..... Agreed. I reckon a draw and an Aussie win are about equal odds. An England win would need Australia to produce an “Ireland” in their second innings. Which is possible but pretty unlikely.
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Post by mattyd on Aug 18, 2019 11:03:23 GMT
Get to a lead of about 250 and just see if we could scuttle them out. Though TBH I cant see us having time to get that far ahead.
100% DRAW.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 11:06:09 GMT
Get to a lead of about 250 and just see if we could scuttle them out. Though TBH I cant see us having time to get that far ahead. 100% DRAW. Not if we are bowled out for 150.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2019 11:29:38 GMT
Get to a lead of about 250 and just see if we could scuttle them out. Though TBH I cant see us having time to get that far ahead. 100% DRAW. Not if we are bowled out for 150. And with Steve Smith now officially ruled out, it ain’t going to be a cake walk for Australia on this wicket. This could still be a very interesting day. Personally, I’d be quite happy for Buttler and Stokes to bat most of the day and have the match peter out in a tame draw. The third test is coming up and, thanks to Archer, there is a different dynamic at play in the series. A bit of renewed confidence in our engine room would be a nice bonus.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 18, 2019 12:28:14 GMT
Personally think England have been brilliant this morning. Australia are a Steve Smith from being as bad as us at batting, this series is well and truly alive and if Smith is ruled out for concussion at Headingley we have a massive chance, even excluding the slight chance for anything happening today.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 18, 2019 12:32:24 GMT
Raining. Ruins any chance of an England win, yet a collapse could still see us lose. Need to really dig in for a couple of hours once we eventually get going..... Agreed. I reckon a draw and an Aussie win are about equal odds. An England win would need Australia to produce an “Ireland” in their second innings. Which is possible but pretty unlikely. There was a test when we were at our best when we skittled Sri Lanka at Cardiff in about 25 overs. even with Jayawardene and Sangakkara. That side could really do anything and I always forget how good it was.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 18, 2019 12:42:17 GMT
We’re pretty much at the stage now where we can start taking a few more risks. We only need half an hour of Buttler and Stokes going into T20 mode and the lead will be at 250.
Unfortunately, even with the fragile Aussie batting line up and minus Smith, the pitch doesn’t look like the kind of pitch you could bowl a side out in a session and a half.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2019 13:11:37 GMT
We’re pretty much at the stage now where we can start taking a few more risks. We only need half an hour of Buttler and Stokes going into T20 mode and the lead will be at 250. Unfortunately, even with the fragile Aussie batting line up and minus Smith, the pitch doesn’t look like the kind of pitch you could bowl a side out in a session and a half. It’s quite interesting isn’t it. I think we’ll carry on as we have been for the first 30 mins after lunch, assuming we don’t lose any more wickets. Then we press on to post a score that means Australia can’t win the test (250 lead would do that nicely) and declare before tea so we can see what the Aussies are like under a bit of pressure; particularly the sort of pressure Archer can put you under.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2019 13:16:32 GMT
A thought.
I don’t think it was a coincidence that Archer started to ramp his speed up when Cummins cam out to bat. Before that he was quick, he then become explosively quick: 96mph with a ball more than 70 overs old and in a 4th spell.
I wonder if Archer surprised himself. In part at how angry he was as well as how well he channeled that anger. Shades of Devon Malcolm possibly.
Whatever it was, if he can hit those speeds with the new ball from the off, he is going to win us a lot of games.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 18, 2019 13:19:25 GMT
We’re pretty much at the stage now where we can start taking a few more risks. We only need half an hour of Buttler and Stokes going into T20 mode and the lead will be at 250. Unfortunately, even with the fragile Aussie batting line up and minus Smith, the pitch doesn’t look like the kind of pitch you could bowl a side out in a session and a half. It’s quite interesting isn’t it. I think we’ll carry on as we have been for the first 30 mins after lunch, assuming we don’t lose any more wickets. Then we press on to post a score that means Australia can’t win the test (250 lead would do that nicely) and declare before tea so we can see what the Aussies are like under a bit of pressure; particularly the sort of pressure Archer can put you under. Even if we don’t bowl them out we can hopefully inflict a few mental scars. If we can get them 5 or 6 down in the last session with more failures for their top 3 we’ll be going into the next test with a bit of momentum. And if Archer can get them jumping around with another fiery spell all the better.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 18, 2019 13:22:53 GMT
A thought. I don’t think it was a coincidence that Archer started to ramp his speed up when Cummins cam out to bat. Before that he was quick, he then become explosively quick: 96mph with a ball more than 70 overs old and in a 4th spell. I wonder if Archer surprised himself. In part at how angry he was as well as how well he channeled that anger. Shades of Devon Malcolm possibly. Whatever it was, if he can hit those speeds with the new ball from the off, he is going to win us a lot of games. Definitely in retort to Langer’s comments about him fatiguing later on in the day, he’s a young passionate ld and I’m sure he’ll only get better. He legit tonked one of the best post war batsmen I’ve ever seen on the head in his first test match. When he gets the nous he has the potential to be incredible. Australia respected him too, how often do we see them go after our debutants?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 18, 2019 14:13:40 GMT
Ben Stokes is some cricket player.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2019 14:14:42 GMT
Shame Buttler got out because he missed out on the opportunity to have some fun this afternoon as we press the accelerator.
He still hasn’t nailed down his place in the side, but means he can move onto the next test with some more confidence.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2019 14:29:14 GMT
Ben Stokes is some cricket player. Superb knock from Stokes. He toughed it out and then pressed on. A brilliant test match innings. Now it gets interesting!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 14:34:24 GMT
Ben Stokes is some cricket player. Superb knock from Stokes. He toughed it out and then pressed on. A brilliant test match innings. Now it gets interesting! Feels like the momentum has swung in this series with the whole Archer v Smith dynamic. A win would be great, but even after a draw we should be buzzing for Headingley......
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 18, 2019 14:35:03 GMT
Ben Stokes is some cricket player. Superb knock from Stokes. He toughed it out and then pressed on. A brilliant test match innings. Now it gets interesting! Should have batted on for another 10 minutes till he got his 150
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 14:36:04 GMT
A thought. I don’t think it was a coincidence that Archer started to ramp his speed up when Cummins cam out to bat. Before that he was quick, he then become explosively quick: 96mph with a ball more than 70 overs old and in a 4th spell. I wonder if Archer surprised himself. In part at how angry he was as well as how well he channeled that anger. Shades of Devon Malcolm possibly. Whatever it was, if he can hit those speeds with the new ball from the off, he is going to win us a lot of games. Definitely in retort to Langer’s comments about him fatiguing later on in the day, he’s a young passionate ld and I’m sure he’ll only get better. He legit tonked one of the best post war batsmen I’ve ever seen on the head in his first test match. When he gets the nous he has the potential to be incredible. Australia respected him too, how often do we see them go after our debutants? The beauty of Archer is that for a quickie his action is very slick and almost effortless, it means his body should stand up to the rigours of test match cricket fast more easily than some.....
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 18, 2019 14:39:17 GMT
Even Lord’s might go off if Broad picks up Warner here.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 18, 2019 15:06:18 GMT
Archer’s been spot on, brilliant bowling.
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Post by zerps on Aug 18, 2019 15:08:12 GMT
Archer is the man
How many concussion subs have they got?
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