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Post by tomcmod on Jul 17, 2019 18:57:18 GMT
It wasn't a dig at Shotton he just said he wasn't a right midfielder, which is nicer than a lot of people on here say about Shotts! I do feel for him in that Everton game, Baines was kicking him to bits, 2 blatant fouls and the ref gave nothing. His head went and he wanted payback, any player, you saw it coming. Will always happen with more flair type players.
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Post by stokieoldboy on Jul 17, 2019 19:01:22 GMT
Anyone got highlights of that Everton game, because I can't remember Pennants behaviour,i think its something to do with my age, I'm not even sure if I was at the game, oh well time for my evening tablet,
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Post by scfconnor on Jul 17, 2019 19:46:40 GMT
Was unbelievable for a while under Pulis. Always managed to get his cross in, set pieces were dangerous, a true class act. I for one will remember him for that, rather than the Everton game. I wouldn't hear a bad word said about anybody from the XI that took to the field against Man City in the Cup Final. That remains that best Stoke XI in my lifetime, regardless of whatever happened to the players afterwards. I include Pennant, Jones and Wilson in that just as much as Shawcross, Delap and Sorensen. As great as that team was, the one from the season we thrashed Liverpool were the best recent team. Just before N'Zonzi left.
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Post by Godo on Jul 17, 2019 23:45:21 GMT
The whole thing felt VERY odd At the time Not sure if there were any Chinese betting syndicates who had bet on 1-1.....
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Post by melbournestokie21 on Jul 18, 2019 0:27:20 GMT
I can't believe the posters on here honestly. His career is nothing but a train wreck, Berahino but with skill. Thats the only difference. Yes he was a good player but fk me look how he acts and carries himself. Some of you really dont remember just how bad that everton cameo was. But he gets a free pass because hes a little bit of a maverick ay He cost us two points that game He gained us two points with his free kick earlier in the season. He tore Arsenal apart when we beat them 3-1, Finished with our most assists In the same season. One very bad game doesn’t mean that his time here was a complete failure. Walters managed to score two own goals and missed a penalty, does that mean we should slate him too? No because I think Walters is worth respecting for his efforts having never downed tools and getting everything out of his limited ability. Pennant on the other hand undermines himself both with his application and behaviour
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 18, 2019 1:11:33 GMT
I can't believe the posters on here honestly. His career is nothing but a train wreck, Berahino but with skill. Thats the only difference. Yes he was a good player but fk me look how he acts and carries himself. Some of you really dont remember just how bad that everton cameo was. But he gets a free pass because hes a little bit of a maverick ay I remember the Everton self destruction. But all I say is his time with us wasn't all bad. In fact he played his part in some great times. It wasn't all bad. I'd say there was a lot more good than bad from his time here
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Post by djduncanjames on Jul 18, 2019 8:01:53 GMT
I can't believe the posters on here honestly. His career is nothing but a train wreck, Berahino but with skill. Thats the only difference. Yes he was a good player but fk me look how he acts and carries himself. Some of you really dont remember just how bad that everton cameo was. But he gets a free pass because hes a little bit of a maverick ay Do you hold Fuller to the same standard?
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 18, 2019 8:24:45 GMT
so you are happy to put that one braindead incident above all the other positives he contributed to our club. He was an integral part of our journey to the one and only FA Cup Final Stoke City has experienced in its history, played a key role in one of the best Stoke performances of all time at Wembley in the Semi-final v. Bolton and one of the best crossers of the ball Ive ever seen at Stoke in 50 years, but eh fuck that! It wasn't just that one incident was it? He reverted to type in his second season. Fantastic for a brief spell in spring 2011 when we probably played our best football of the last 30 years but also a complete quim who did when he always does and pissed it all away. Can you identify these incidents clearly please?
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 18, 2019 8:28:29 GMT
It wasn't just that one incident was it? He reverted to type in his second season. Fantastic for a brief spell in spring 2011 when we probably played our best football of the last 30 years but also a complete quim who did when he always does and pissed it all away. Can you identify these incidents clearly please? The Everton thing has been totally overhyped imho, he was in the end of two really bad fouls that the ref ignored just before the incident in question where he lost his head.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 18, 2019 8:47:37 GMT
It wasn't just that one incident was it? He reverted to type in his second season. Fantastic for a brief spell in spring 2011 when we probably played our best football of the last 30 years but also a complete quim who did when he always does and pissed it all away. Can you identify these incidents clearly please? The ones where he broke team curfews in 2011-12 which led to Pulis dropping him? His Everton cameo hasn't been overstated, he was on the pitch about 15 minutes and in that time committed more fouls than anyone else in the game. He played like he was pissed.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 18, 2019 8:50:48 GMT
Anyone got highlights of that Everton game, because I can't remember Pennants behaviour,i think its something to do with my age, I'm not even sure if I was at the game, oh well time for my evening tablet, I mean he only has about 4 goes at Osman before finally taking him out.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jul 18, 2019 9:02:10 GMT
Anyone got highlights of that Everton game, because I can't remember Pennants behaviour,i think its something to do with my age, (question)  I'm not even sure if I was at the game, oh well time for my evening tablet, 8-| I mean he only has about 4 goes at Osman before finally taking him out. The final hack is as bad as I remember but the first bit actually isnt so bad.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 18, 2019 9:03:58 GMT
I mean he only has about 4 goes at Osman before finally taking him out. The final hack is as bad as I remember but the first bit actually isnt so bad. I think he'd been doing it since he came on if memory serves.
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Post by melbournestokie21 on Jul 18, 2019 9:40:41 GMT
The final hack is as bad as I remember but the first bit actually isnt so bad. I think he'd been doing it since he came on if memory serves. Absoluetly right, there was one I think 5 minutes before this which was the worst of the lot but he missed and went sliding
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 18, 2019 9:55:32 GMT
Pennant and Etherington, what a bloody pair they were. Magnificent wingers. Agreed. Pennant was the best crosser in english football for a good few years imo
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 18, 2019 10:19:01 GMT
Can you identify these incidents clearly please? The ones where he broke team curfews in 2011-12 which led to Pulis dropping him? His Everton cameo hasn't been overstated, he was on the pitch about 15 minutes and in that time committed more fouls than anyone else in the game. He played like he was pissed. So 2 incidents. Let's forget the incidents where he helped to get us to an FA Cup Final, and made Kenwyne Jones look like a decent CF with inch perfect crosses then.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 18, 2019 10:28:33 GMT
The ones where he broke team curfews in 2011-12 which led to Pulis dropping him? His Everton cameo hasn't been overstated, he was on the pitch about 15 minutes and in that time committed more fouls than anyone else in the game. He played like he was pissed. So 2 incidents. Let's forget the incidents where he helped to get us to an FA Cup Final, and made Kenwyne Jones look like a decent CF with inch perfect crosses then. It happened more than once, hence him being bombed out. And nobody's saying 'let's forget' the good stuff. Let's remember both. Did some good stuff, then reverted to type and pissed it away. What's the problem, should we pretend something wasn't as it was?
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 18, 2019 10:46:53 GMT
So 2 incidents. Let's forget the incidents where he helped to get us to an FA Cup Final, and made Kenwyne Jones look like a decent CF with inch perfect crosses then. It happened more than once, hence him being bombed out. And nobody's saying 'let's forget' the good stuff. Let's remember both. Did some good stuff, then reverted to type and pissed it away. What's the problem, should we pretend something wasn't as it was? Fair point....... 2 sides to every story.... Pennant has been very underrated by our fans imho as a very good player and contributor to some our greatest successes imho There will always be bad boys in football. Peter Dobing was a bad boy at times (refusing to play, discipline etc) and led us to our most famous victory. We've had loads of them.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 18, 2019 11:03:31 GMT
It happened more than once, hence him being bombed out. And nobody's saying 'let's forget' the good stuff. Let's remember both. Did some good stuff, then reverted to type and pissed it away. What's the problem, should we pretend something wasn't as it was? Fair point....... 2 sides to every story.... Pennant has been very underrated by our fans imho as a very good player and contributor to some our greatest successes imho There will always be bad boys in football. Peter Dobing was a bad boy at times (refusing to play, discipline etc) and led us to our most famous victory. We've had loads of them. Absolutely. You have to draw the line somewhere though and I don't believe in whitewashing the bad and only remembering the good or vice versa.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jul 18, 2019 11:47:28 GMT
Really! 2 pages of a Pennant thread and no one has even mentions his Mrs, let alone put a picture up. disgraceful, shame on you all
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 18, 2019 11:56:02 GMT
File under Glenn Johnson and Charlie Adam.
Never their fault.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 18, 2019 12:03:34 GMT
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jul 18, 2019 12:11:20 GMT
One of Mark Hughes first games? Could fully see the change in our play, absolutely battered them but couldn’t score then Pennant popped up with that. Good times
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Post by larstoke on Jul 18, 2019 13:37:33 GMT
Pennant on the right and Etherington on the left. best pair of wingers we ever had imo. both had their struggles but both found some excellent form for us!
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Post by Veritas on Jul 18, 2019 14:40:39 GMT
Pennant on the right and Etherington on the left. best pair of wingers we ever had imo. both had their struggles but both found some excellent form for us! Stan Matthews & Joe Johnson? Or Terry Conroy & Harry Burrows?
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Post by kelw on Jul 18, 2019 14:52:26 GMT
IF Hughes did treat him that way then I've lost some respect for LMH, I'm always of the opinion that you take people how you find them. Some will always dislike regardless based on what they heard I'm not and it's a poor way to operate in life. Easy to blame someone else when you screw your own career up more than once
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 18, 2019 15:00:17 GMT
IF Hughes did treat him that way then I've lost some respect for LMH, I'm always of the opinion that you take people how you find them. Some will always dislike regardless based on what they heard I'm not and it's a poor way to operate in life. Easy to blame someone else when you screw your own career up more than once He clearly has but what's that to do with anything he said or I said.
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Post by adi on Jul 18, 2019 16:39:11 GMT
24:00-27ish Seems to be conveying a message a few players have said. However I still remember Pennants last game for us vs everton. That game I swear he deliberately went out there to get sent off, cant remember the result but remember he fkd us at the end from memory with a stupid challenge. Soured any good will I had for him we drew 1 all, he hacked away at Baines was it,until he gave a way a penalty in the last couple of minutes, fookin brain dead I thought it was Leon osman he chopped down?
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Post by Northy on Jul 18, 2019 16:46:55 GMT
we drew 1 all, he hacked away at Baines was it,until he gave a way a penalty in the last couple of minutes, fookin brain dead I thought it was Leon osman he chopped down? may have been, wasn't sure thats why i asked was it. looks like it was. Butland and Stones made tehir debuts in the match www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25513272
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Post by larstoke on Jul 18, 2019 17:51:24 GMT
Pennant on the right and Etherington on the left. best pair of wingers we ever had imo. both had their struggles but both found some excellent form for us! Stan Matthews & Joe Johnson? Or Terry Conroy & Harry Burrows? Fair enough!
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