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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 13:39:14 GMT
I think he did alright - certainly not as bad as Lindsey [or] our illustrious right full-back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 13:44:55 GMT
I don't see it? *Come on Sheikh, you're being slow today! Gotcha Your Tommy Smith rants are becoming a permanent fixture in my pre and post match routines. Give it until the end of the season they'll be stuff of legend. I don't know how or why you get so worked up about him. I just find him to be a typical, beige Championship player that I couldn't raise a fart for.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 13:49:41 GMT
Why did he even start though? We know he’s crap. Surely there must be someone at the club who can remind him that he looked the worst of the lot against Vale with the u23s and generally looked wank at every turn? Surely there must be someone who can figure out that the Vale match was enourmously important for Vale but had no importance for us beyond giving 11 kids a game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2020 13:54:54 GMT
Why did he even start though? We know he’s crap. Surely there must be someone at the club who can remind him that he looked the worst of the lot against Vale with the u23s and generally looked wank at every turn? Surely there must be someone who can figure out that the Vale match was enourmously important for Vale but had no importance for us beyond giving 11 kids a game. It was massively important for that though 🤦♂️
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 1, 2020 13:55:59 GMT
Gotcha Your Tommy Smith rants are becoming a permanent fixture in my pre and post match routines. Give it until the end of the season they'll be stuff of legend. I don't know how or why you get so worked up about him. I just find him to be a typical, beige Championship player that I couldn't raise a fart for. £4M worth of beige who defends like a daft schoolboy and attacks with the ferocity of a new born gerbil.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 13:59:08 GMT
Your Tommy Smith rants are becoming a permanent fixture in my pre and post match routines. Give it until the end of the season they'll be stuff of legend. I don't know how or why you get so worked up about him. I just find him to be a typical, beige Championship player that I couldn't raise a fart for. £4M worth of beige who defends like a daft schoolboy and attacks with the ferocity of a new born gerbil. <strains for a fart> Nothing. <shrugs shoulders>
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 14:00:20 GMT
I think he did alright - certainly not as bad as Lindsey our illustrious right full-back. Lindsay, our left footed Centre-Half do you mean?
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Post by silverdollar on Feb 1, 2020 14:19:25 GMT
Didn't anyone see Tymon get injured or tell the coaches that he was struggling? It was an enforced substitution and only those with a premeditated agenda against Tymon would be too critical of his performance. No agenda, I just happen to believe that he isn't good enough. So have you been abroad watching him play?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 14:32:08 GMT
I think he did alright - certainly not as bad as Lindsey our illustrious right full-back. Lindsay, our left footed Centre-Half do you mean? Ha! "Or our" certainly not as bad as Lindsey OR our illustrious right full-back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 19:34:28 GMT
I thought he was a little rash last night at times but that can be understandable as he looked like he wanted to catch the eye. I’d certainly give him another go and see if he can settle down in the role. He certainly didn’t shy from any tackles and tried out a few balls in the box. Right decision to sub him before he got sent off though
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 1, 2020 23:19:48 GMT
He went off with an injury didn’t he? He didn’t do anything wrong all game and spent much of it putting in some decent crosses. Not as physically present as Indi, but a decent first performance for us in a while. He was injured, but O'Neill had signalled the pending substitution just before that. Tymon, who has not played a league match for 4 months, had run out of steam, as O'Neill says in his post-match comments. He hadn't been subbed in his previous 5 matches for Famalicão. He may stay third choice just yet, but with both BMI and Ward injury prone, he could feature again. Who knows what he can do if his team mates actually decide to turn up too... He did not pick up the injury in the alleged foul when he went off but about five minutes earlier. He told O'Neill immediately he felt it. A combination of the ball not going out of play and a bit of lethargy on the bench which frustrated O'Neill (I couldn't see if it was Verlindern or the coaches taking their time) meant that he stayed on for that length of time which ultimately proved costly as whatever small chance we had of getting a point disappeared with Rooney's free kick. Tymon was obviously struggling in those extra minutes and could not run freely.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 2, 2020 8:35:48 GMT
No agenda, I just happen to believe that he isn't good enough. So have you been abroad watching him play? Considering he was rarely selected for the Portuguese side he was loaned to it would have been a wasted journey.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 2, 2020 9:09:09 GMT
I'd be tempted to play him against Charlton too!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 11:21:31 GMT
So have you been abroad watching him play? Considering he was rarely selected for the Portuguese side he was loaned to it would have been a wasted journey. He was selected as the cover for an injured international player for five consecutive games and was praised by the manager, so, no, it was not a wasted journey. The conditions that often apply for loan player applied here. He did what he could, but when said international star came back, of course Josh was out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 11:24:36 GMT
Considering he was rarely selected for the Portuguese side he was loaned to it would have been a wasted journey. He was selected as the cover for an injured international player for five consecutive games and was praised by the manager, so, no, it was not a wasted journey. The conditions that often apply for loan player applied here. He did what he could, but when said international star came back, of course Josh was out.
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Post by silverdollar on Feb 2, 2020 11:27:46 GMT
So have you been abroad watching him play? Considering he was rarely selected for the Portuguese side he was loaned to it would have been a wasted journey. So let's get this straight. How many times have you actually seen this young player play?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 2, 2020 11:40:25 GMT
Considering he was rarely selected for the Portuguese side he was loaned to it would have been a wasted journey. So let's get this straight. How many times have you actually seen this young player play? What’s the evidence that he’s got anything to offer? If the evidence is limited, what evidence there is is all heavily stacked in one direction isn’t it?
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 2, 2020 11:43:58 GMT
To true,the jury is still hearing the case for Tymon, not enough evidence at the moment to have the jury reach a decision. Having said that at the moment my initial view is that he is not strong enough physically or mentally.We shall see.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Feb 2, 2020 11:45:45 GMT
I’d persevere with Tymon and Edwards but they both new a lot of coaching and, in Edwards case especially, some maturing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 13:08:29 GMT
So let's get this straight. How many times have you actually seen this young player play? What’s the evidence that he’s got anything to offer? If the evidence is limited, what evidence there is is all heavily stacked in one direction isn’t it? Are you a politician ? You've totally avoided answering the question you've replied to. The evidence that he might have something to offer is . 1. The manager picked him. 2. He did ok
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 2, 2020 13:19:37 GMT
What’s the evidence that he’s got anything to offer? If the evidence is limited, what evidence there is is all heavily stacked in one direction isn’t it? Are you a politician ? You've totally avoided answering the question you've replied to. The evidence that he might have something to offer is . 1. The manager picked him. 2. He did ok The question was 'how many times has he seen him play'. If the answer is 'a handful, and he's been largely terrible every single time' and successive managers here and elsewhere have seen fit to not use him or send him back, what does that suggest to you? He wasn't our worst player on Friday and it was probably his best game for the club. He was still hit and miss and was lucky to avoid a red card. Again, Friday was one game. Apparently that's enough, variously, to bomb Powell out of the club for a teenager, ditch half the team and ignore Tymon's previous performances for the club. Someone is going to have to tell me what I've missed for Friday to wipe out the decent results and performances that preceded it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 13:44:55 GMT
Are you a politician ? You've totally avoided answering the question you've replied to. The evidence that he might have something to offer is . 1. The manager picked him. 2. He did ok The question was 'how many times has he seen him play'. If the answer is 'a handful, and he's been largely terrible every single time' and successive managers here and elsewhere have seen fit to not use him or send him back, what does that suggest to you? He wasn't our worst player on Friday and it was probably his best game for the club. He was still hit and miss and was lucky to avoid a red card. Again, Friday was one game. Apparently that's enough, variously, to bomb Powell out of the club for a teenager, ditch half the team and ignore Tymon's previous performances for the club. Someone is going to have to tell me what I've missed for Friday to wipe out the decent results and performances that preceded it? We're talking about Tymon here not Powell or other players. Whether he'll ever be good enough to become a regular we won't know unless he gets a chance.....1 game where he didn't really do much wrong and half a game in a Jones team isn't exactly long enough to make an informed decision. Plenty of others have been given a run ....even when performances haven't warranted it, I'm only suggesting Tymon is given the same opportunity
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 2, 2020 13:48:10 GMT
The question was 'how many times has he seen him play'. If the answer is 'a handful, and he's been largely terrible every single time' and successive managers here and elsewhere have seen fit to not use him or send him back, what does that suggest to you? He wasn't our worst player on Friday and it was probably his best game for the club. He was still hit and miss and was lucky to avoid a red card. Again, Friday was one game. Apparently that's enough, variously, to bomb Powell out of the club for a teenager, ditch half the team and ignore Tymon's previous performances for the club. Someone is going to have to tell me what I've missed for Friday to wipe out the decent results and performances that preceded it? We're talking about Tymon here not Powell or other players. Whether he'll ever be good enough to become a regular we won't know unless he gets a chance.....1 game where he didn't really do much wrong and half a game in a Jones team isn't exactly long enough to make an informed decision. Plenty of others have been given a run ....even when performances haven't warranted it, I'm only suggesting Tymon is given the same opportunity What's he done to be worth one? He's been sent back from his loan spell, he's been subbed in the first half by one manager and subbed at half time by another, and various managers have seen nothing in him. How much longer does 'the jury' need. He played on Friday out of necessity and the best thing we can say is it could've been worse.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 2, 2020 14:28:40 GMT
Considering he was rarely selected for the Portuguese side he was loaned to it would have been a wasted journey. So let's get this straight. How many times have you actually seen this young player play? I'm not really sure why you're so concerned that I don't particularly rate Tymon. I've just passed an opinion on a message board and you're querying why I haven't jumped on a plane to Portugal to watch him before being qualified to hold that opinion. I didn't catch the train to Milton Keynes when he was on loan there either, mainly because again he struggled to get game time as MK Dons got relegated from League 1.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 14:33:42 GMT
Considering he was rarely selected for the Portuguese side he was loaned to it would have been a wasted journey. So let's get this straight. How many times have you actually seen this young player play? Not many people have seen him play that many games full stop. Since 2016, he's only made 38 appearances including internationals at U17-U20 level. 38 appearances in 4 years, and only 24 of those in full time senior football!
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 2, 2020 14:35:50 GMT
The question was 'how many times has he seen him play'. If the answer is 'a handful, and he's been largely terrible every single time' and successive managers here and elsewhere have seen fit to not use him or send him back, what does that suggest to you? He wasn't our worst player on Friday and it was probably his best game for the club. He was still hit and miss and was lucky to avoid a red card. Again, Friday was one game. Apparently that's enough, variously, to bomb Powell out of the club for a teenager, ditch half the team and ignore Tymon's previous performances for the club. Someone is going to have to tell me what I've missed for Friday to wipe out the decent results and performances that preceded it? We're talking about Tymon here not Powell or other players. Whether he'll ever be good enough to become a regular we won't know unless he gets a chance.....1 game where he didn't really do much wrong and half a game in a Jones team isn't exactly long enough to make an informed decision. Plenty of others have been given a run ....even when performances haven't warranted it, I'm only suggesting Tymon is given the same opportunity We had a settled defence and had three clean sheets on the trot. Tymon comes in out of necessity and we lost 4-0. I thought Tymon did ok but the defence as a unit looked far more vulnerable than when BMI was playing. In particular Lyndsay appeared to get sucked over to the left to cover Tymon leaving a bigger gap between him and Batth which Derby exploited. The calls to give Tymon (and Edwards) game time while we're in a relegation go fight is borderline insane sentimental bollocks - it's not fair on the team, the club, the supporters or the young players. If we were safe in a dead season then fine. As it is - no way. And thankfully I don't think O'Neil looks like he has much time for sentiment.
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Post by DC1863 on Feb 2, 2020 14:37:44 GMT
I'd like to see him given another chance at Charlton almost purely on the basis of him being the only natural left back in the first team who isn't approaching retirement age.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 14:46:39 GMT
We're talking about Tymon here not Powell or other players. Whether he'll ever be good enough to become a regular we won't know unless he gets a chance.....1 game where he didn't really do much wrong and half a game in a Jones team isn't exactly long enough to make an informed decision. Plenty of others have been given a run ....even when performances haven't warranted it, I'm only suggesting Tymon is given the same opportunity We had a settled defence and had three clean sheets on the trot. Tymon comes in out of necessity and we lost 4-0. I thought Tymon did ok but the defence as a unit looked far more vulnerable than when BMI was playing. In particular Lyndsay appeared to get sucked over to the left to cover Tymon leaving a bigger gap between him and Batth which Derby exploited. The calls to give Tymon (and Edwards) game time while we're in a relegation go fight is borderline insane sentimental bollocks - it's not fair on the team, the club, the supporters or the young players. If we were safe in a dead season then fine. As it is - no way. And thankfully I don't think O'Neil looks like he has much time for sentiment. BMI rarely goes forward,Tymon did. Don't you think it's conceivable that was the manager's instruction ? The conclusion that we lost 4 nil because Tymon played when he hadn't played in the previous 3 clean sheets is a case of 2+2 =5. The whole 11 players were under par.....and the manager ! Anyway the defence will be changed in the next match anyway,Chester will be starting
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Post by thehoof on Feb 2, 2020 14:51:26 GMT
I think he did alright - certainly not as bad as Lindsey our illustrious right full-back. Lindsay, our left footed Centre-Half do you mean? I think you’ve missed the “or our” before the illustrious?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 2, 2020 16:29:39 GMT
We had a settled defence and had three clean sheets on the trot. Tymon comes in out of necessity and we lost 4-0. I thought Tymon did ok but the defence as a unit looked far more vulnerable than when BMI was playing. In particular Lyndsay appeared to get sucked over to the left to cover Tymon leaving a bigger gap between him and Batth which Derby exploited. The calls to give Tymon (and Edwards) game time while we're in a relegation go fight is borderline insane sentimental bollocks - it's not fair on the team, the club, the supporters or the young players. If we were safe in a dead season then fine. As it is - no way. And thankfully I don't think O'Neil looks like he has much time for sentiment. BMI rarely goes forward,Tymon did. Don't you think it's conceivable that was the manager's instruction ? The conclusion that we lost 4 nil because Tymon played when he hadn't played in the previous 3 clean sheets is a case of 2+2 =5. The whole 11 players were under par.....and the manager ! Anyway the defence will be changed in the next match anyway,Chester will be starting Actually in this case 2 + 2 = 4. Quite literally, Good defences work as a unit. We had a decent working unit and Tymon coming in disrupted it. Not his fault - but it did, BMI does very little going forward but I'd take 0-0 rather than 4-0 any day in our situation. I suspect Chester will come in sooner rather than later - neither Lindsay or Batth are that great with the ball at their feet. However I'd rather see him come in when he's been prperly integrated into the defence - otherwise it just disrupts things.
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