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Post by franklin66 on Jul 31, 2019 7:51:24 GMT
Mmm of course you are.... I believe you. Are that old chestnut. On the racist play ground which is this board, of which you are a leading protagonist, the racists start calling lifelong anti racists, racists. A familiar and disgusting right wing tactic. Playground who's the one making childish snide remarks to who to deflect? I made a promise to discuss a visit with my MP to talk Brexit. I gave that update and you make fun of that, I was asked and I replied. Point anywhere where I've taken a lead in any such thing now who's making shit up? Rather than say how disgusting that quote may have been you laughed at the thought. So make fun of me all you want but just a quick one it's not "from my mouth" it's via my finger tips typing. Now who's a thicko....... Edit, I'm a Labour voter.
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Post by Davef on Jul 31, 2019 8:01:44 GMT
It’s a good thing that picaninnies with watermelon smiles is such a beautiful term of endearment and not offensive at all isn’t it. The current Prime Minister is a proven racist and an unabashed liar but the media (and franklins local MP) don’t seem to care. Wonder why? Maybe my MP thinks her leader Grampa Racist is the worse of the two and maybe she suffers more from her own than from Boris. Ever thought of that sinario? has Boris Johnson ever called anyone a jew cum slut? This tiresome spat started because of this post. The vast majority of people reading it would assume that you were accusing Jeremy Corbyn of calling your local MP (Ruth Smeeth I presume?) a "jew cum slut", especially when you've already called him "Grampa Racist" earlier in the post and it's clear you're comparing him to Boris Johnson. Absolutely ridiculous, but par for the course on this board lately.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 31, 2019 8:03:58 GMT
Maybe my MP thinks her leader Grampa Racist is the worse of the two and maybe she suffers more from her own than from Boris. Ever thought of that sinario? has Boris Johnson ever called anyone a jew cum slut? This tiresome spat started because of this post. The vast majority of people reading it would assume that you were accusing Jeremy Corbyn of calling your local MP (Ruth Smeeth I presume?) a "jew cum slut", especially when you've already called him "Grampa Racist" earlier in the post and it's clear you're comparing him to Boris Johnson. Absolutely ridiculous, but par for the course on this board lately. Ah here we go I feel a delete coming on....
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 31, 2019 8:12:25 GMT
Maybe my MP thinks her leader Grampa Racist is the worse of the two and maybe she suffers more from her own than from Boris. Ever thought of that sinario? has Boris Johnson ever called anyone a jew cum slut? This tiresome spat started because of this post. The vast majority of people reading it would assume that you were accusing Jeremy Corbyn of calling your local MP (Ruth Smeeth I presume?) a "jew cum slut", especially when you've already called him "Grampa Racist" earlier in the post and it's clear you're comparing him to Boris Johnson. Absolutely ridiculous, but par for the course on this board lately. Ok Dave, Grampa Racist is not my invention it's been used numerous time before. I'm not comparing Corbyn to Boris at all I'm making a point that there is worse things said and done within the Labour party but to clarify Corbyn does know about this and more and has done nothing to stop it. One of his own MP'S called him a racist and that the Labour party are institutionally racist. There are issues with both parties in highlighting that. A member of MY party said that and it's funny....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 31, 2019 8:46:01 GMT
This tiresome spat started because of this post. The vast majority of people reading it would assume that you were accusing Jeremy Corbyn of calling your local MP (Ruth Smeeth I presume?) a "jew cum slut", especially when you've already called him "Grampa Racist" earlier in the post and it's clear you're comparing him to Boris Johnson. Absolutely ridiculous, but par for the course on this board lately. Ok Dave, Grampa Racist is not my invention it's been used numerous time before. I'm not comparing Corbyn to Boris at all I'm making a point that there is worse things said and done within the Labour party but to clarify Corbyn does know about this and more and has done nothing to stop it. One of his own MP'S called him a racist and that the Labour party are institutionally racist. There are issues with both parties in highlighting that. A member of MY party said that and it's funny.... Did Ruth or whoever your MP is report the member concerned? If so he will be expelled. What stage is it at in the complaints process. Who told Jeremy Corbyn about it?
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 31, 2019 8:57:21 GMT
Ok Dave, Grampa Racist is not my invention it's been used numerous time before. I'm not comparing Corbyn to Boris at all I'm making a point that there is worse things said and done within the Labour party but to clarify Corbyn does know about this and more and has done nothing to stop it. One of his own MP'S called him a racist and that the Labour party are institutionally racist. There are issues with both parties in highlighting that. A member of MY party said that and it's funny.... Did Ruth or whoever your MP is report the member concerned? If so he will be expelled. What stage is it at in the complaints process. Who told Jeremy Corbyn about it? I don't know the answers to those I had a limited time and talked over many things but I can't see why I would have been lied to, in fact it's documented within the Labour party and the issues are widely publicised. Everything I've said is 100% a true reflection of what was said. He is/ has done nothing to challenge this within the party, others have already been seen to be accepted "back" for similar although less abusive thoughts.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 31, 2019 10:16:08 GMT
It’s a good thing that picaninnies with watermelon smiles is such a beautiful term of endearment and not offensive at all isn’t it. The current Prime Minister is a proven racist and an unabashed liar but the media (and franklins local MP) don’t seem to care. Wonder why? .....because most sensible people don't consider the odd socially inappropriate comment to be evidence enough to tar a person as 'a proven racist' for the rest of their life....? Mo loves labelling people racist or a c*nt if they disagree with his Marxist doctrine.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 31, 2019 10:50:15 GMT
.....because most sensible people don't consider the odd socially inappropriate comment to be evidence enough to tar a person as 'a proven racist' for the rest of their life....? Mo loves labelling people racist or a c*nt if they disagree with his Marxist doctrine. To be fair it was me calling him one this morning 😉
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 31, 2019 12:32:16 GMT
Guys - take 5.
Otherwise we'll be on take 3 "Knives out for Corbyn..." thread!
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 31, 2019 13:07:04 GMT
It would be impossible for any Government to be as incompetent as Theresa May's Government It would be impossible for any Government to be as extreme as Boris Johnson's Government And that is that. I agree it would be impossible for any Government to be as incompetent as May's. Corbyn's (heaven forbid) would be even more incompetent. Same thing for extreme. If you think things are bad now, you ain't seen nothing yet. Have you ever lived under a socialist government?
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Post by yeokel on Jul 31, 2019 13:19:18 GMT
I agree it would be impossible for any Government to be as incompetent as May's. Corbyn's (heaven forbid) would be even more incompetent. Same thing for extreme. If you think things are bad now, you ain't seen nothing yet. Have you ever lived under a socialist government? He probably hasn’t, although Scotland does tend towards socialism a little more than England. What he probably can remember though is how dilapidated the likes of Poland, E.Germany, Russia, Georgia, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia etc were until their eventual breakups happened.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 31, 2019 14:09:24 GMT
I agree it would be impossible for any Government to be as incompetent as May's. Corbyn's (heaven forbid) would be even more incompetent. Same thing for extreme. If you think things are bad now, you ain't seen nothing yet. Have you ever lived under a socialist government? Do the Wilson and Callaghan governments qualify as being socialist? If so - then the answer is yes.
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 31, 2019 14:12:56 GMT
Have you ever lived under a socialist government? He probably hasn’t, although Scotland does tend towards socialism a little more than England. What he probably can remember though is how dilapidated the likes of Poland, E.Germany, Russia, Georgia, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia etc were until their eventual breakups happened. That was communism fella.And no they are not the same thing.
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 31, 2019 14:22:26 GMT
Have you ever lived under a socialist government? Do the Wilson and Callaghan governments qualify as being socialist? If so - then the answer is yes. I assume you mean Wilsons second term.Both of them had no majority in government ,there was a hung parliament so like now nothing gets done and the people suffer.They were even stranger and more unstable times than we have now tbh. So not really a fair reflection on socialism.
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Post by yeokel on Jul 31, 2019 14:33:58 GMT
He probably hasn’t, although Scotland does tend towards socialism a little more than England. What he probably can remember though is how dilapidated the likes of Poland, E.Germany, Russia, Georgia, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia etc were until their eventual breakups happened. That was communism fella.And no they are not the same thing. Ah, ok.... I've been mistakenly thinking for 59 years that USSR stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and that it is generally agreed that the USSR never achieved 'true communism' but was actually a diluted version of it (ie, a Socialist version of it). However, I don't really know (or care) enough about it to go in to all the whys and wherefores.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 31, 2019 16:15:31 GMT
Do the Wilson and Callaghan governments qualify as being socialist? If so - then the answer is yes. I assume you mean Wilsons second term.Both of them had no majority in government ,there was a hung parliament so like now nothing gets done and the people suffer.They were even stranger and more unstable times than we have now tbh. So not really a fair reflection on socialism. Wrong. The Oct 74 GE gave Wilson a majority.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 31, 2019 16:41:35 GMT
Socialism's going well in Venezuela 🤔
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Post by Davef on Jul 31, 2019 17:07:32 GMT
Socialism's going well in Venezuela 🤔 I suppose Venezuela's problems have nothing to do with the USA trying to get their grubby hands on their oil, attempting to impose a puppet president, inflicting crippling sanctions or the UK withholding over a billion pounds worth of their gold? There's more to Venezuela than meets the eye and certainly more than what the mainstream media tell you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 17:56:29 GMT
Socialism's going well in Venezuela 🤔 I suppose Venezuela's problems have nothing to do with the USA trying to get their grubby hands on their oil, attempting to impose a puppet president, inflicting crippling sanctions or the UK withholding over a billion pounds worth of their gold? There's more to Venezuela than meets the eye and certainly more than what the mainstream media tell you. It’s pointless Dave, you’re talking about people here who think that Corbyn is a Marxist, Communist AND Trotskyite rolled into one. They’re never going to understand that despite The Venezuelan people being crippled by US sanctions they’re still unwilling to accept a puppet leader that the Yanks and the likes of the UK were desperate to airlift in. That’s why it’s not the news anymore, they haven’t seen the desired result so they’ve stopped reporting on it. Amazing how there’s a revolution happening against the centrist Macron literally a short train ride away on the streets of France yet they don’t seem to be able to pay for a Eurostar ticket to go and report on that. Some people will literally swallow any old shit the main stream media feed them, it’s scary.....
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Post by yeokel on Jul 31, 2019 18:22:30 GMT
Socialism's going well in Venezuela 🤔 I suppose Venezuela's problems have nothing to do with the USA trying to get their grubby hands on their oil, attempting to impose a puppet president, inflicting crippling sanctions or the UK withholding over a billion pounds worth of their gold? There's more to Venezuela than meets the eye and certainly more than what the mainstream media tell you.Not unlike the EU eh?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 31, 2019 20:50:12 GMT
I suppose Venezuela's problems have nothing to do with the USA trying to get their grubby hands on their oil, attempting to impose a puppet president, inflicting crippling sanctions or the UK withholding over a billion pounds worth of their gold? There's more to Venezuela than meets the eye and certainly more than what the mainstream media tell you. It’s pointless Dave, you’re talking about people here who think that Corbyn is a Marxist, Communist AND Trotskyite rolled into one. They’re never going to understand that despite The Venezuelan people being crippled by US sanctions they’re still unwilling to accept a puppet leader that the Yanks and the likes of the UK were desperate to airlift in. That’s why it’s not the news anymore, they haven’t seen the desired result so they’ve stopped reporting on it. Amazing how there’s a revolution happening against the centrist Macron literally a short train ride away on the streets of France yet they don’t seem to be able to pay for a Eurostar ticket to go and report on that. Some people will literally swallow any old shit the main stream media feed them, it’s scary..... I thought that, Prestwich, but I saw Ken Livingstone on This Week a few months ago, and Portillo and Alan Johnson both said that Venezuela had massive problems way before the sanctions. Can't do links, but they (and Andrew Neil) basically tore him to shreds on it. Not denying the US has done this before (many times!), or saying that you are wrong, just putting it out there!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 20:56:02 GMT
It’s pointless Dave, you’re talking about people here who think that Corbyn is a Marxist, Communist AND Trotskyite rolled into one. They’re never going to understand that despite The Venezuelan people being crippled by US sanctions they’re still unwilling to accept a puppet leader that the Yanks and the likes of the UK were desperate to airlift in. That’s why it’s not the news anymore, they haven’t seen the desired result so they’ve stopped reporting on it. Amazing how there’s a revolution happening against the centrist Macron literally a short train ride away on the streets of France yet they don’t seem to be able to pay for a Eurostar ticket to go and report on that. Some people will literally swallow any old shit the main stream media feed them, it’s scary..... I thought that, Prestwich, but I saw Ken Livingstone on This Week a few months ago, and Portillo and Alan Johnson both said that Venezuela had massive problems way before the sanctions. Can't do links, but they (and Andrew Neil) basically tore him to shreds on it. Not denying the US has done this before (many times!), or saying that you are wrong, just putting it out there! I saw that interview as well, Livingston embarrassed himself to be honest he was just waffling I thought he was pissed. I’m no expert on Venezuela mate that’s for sure, it seems to be a combination of a leader that has made plenty of mistakes on the back of the death of Hugo Chavez and the crippling sanctions put in place by the USA who are desperate to bring in a puppet president and rob the country of its resources. But I find it interesting that despite the media narrative of a population eating their pets to survive, and a man waiting in the wings to overthrow a leader that is on his knees, it still hasn’t happened. And I’ve seen various reports of people on the coal face who paint a different picture than that of the main stream media....
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 1, 2019 8:12:20 GMT
I assume you mean Wilsons second term.Both of them had no majority in government ,there was a hung parliament so like now nothing gets done and the people suffer.They were even stranger and more unstable times than we have now tbh. So not really a fair reflection on socialism. Wrong. The Oct 74 GE gave Wilson a majority. Wrong there was a hung parliament.He was forced to have another election later on in the year. Whats wrong with people, all they have to do is check before posting.
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 1, 2019 8:13:29 GMT
That was communism fella.And no they are not the same thing. Ah, ok.... I've been mistakenly thinking for 59 years that USSR stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and that it is generally agreed that the USSR never achieved 'true communism' but was actually a diluted version of it (ie, a Socialist version of it). However, I don't really know (or care) enough about it to go in to all the whys and wherefores. Is this like the Nazis were socialists thread.
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 1, 2019 8:16:07 GMT
Socialism's going well in Venezuela 🤔 Socialism was/is the right way to go and did an awful lot of good in this country.It will be missed in this Im alright jack society.Which in itself is a contradiction.No-one can be alright when the society is collapsing all around you.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 1, 2019 8:24:35 GMT
Wrong. The Oct 74 GE gave Wilson a majority. Wrong there was a hung parliament.He was forced to have another election later on in the year. Whats wrong with people, all they have to do is check before posting. Correct Eggy 1975.
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Post by yeokel on Aug 1, 2019 8:29:28 GMT
Wrong. The Oct 74 GE gave Wilson a majority. Wrong there was a hung parliament.He was forced to have another election later on in the year. Whats wrong with people, all they have to do is check before posting. NO – You’re the one who is wrong. You said “I assume you mean Wilsons second term.Both of them had no majority in government ,there was a hung parliament….” which is incorrect. And Partick said “The Oct 74 GE gave Wilson a majority” which is correct. You’ve now come back and said “Wrong there was a hung parliament.He was forced to have another election later on in the year.” Which is complete bollocks. What’s wrong with you, all you have to do is check before posting.
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Post by yeokel on Aug 1, 2019 8:30:54 GMT
Ah, ok.... I've been mistakenly thinking for 59 years that USSR stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and that it is generally agreed that the USSR never achieved 'true communism' but was actually a diluted version of it (ie, a Socialist version of it). However, I don't really know (or care) enough about it to go in to all the whys and wherefores. Is this like the Nazis were socialists thread. Why, were you wrong about nearly everything in that thread too?
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 1, 2019 8:45:45 GMT
Wrong there was a hung parliament.He was forced to have another election later on in the year. Whats wrong with people, all they have to do is check before posting. NO – You’re the one who is wrong. You said “I assume you mean Wilsons second term.Both of them had no majority in government ,there was a hung parliament….” which is incorrect. And Partick said “The Oct 74 GE gave Wilson a majority” which is correct. You’ve now come back and said “Wrong there was a hung parliament.He was forced to have another election later on in the year.” Which is complete bollocks. What’s wrong with you, all you have to do is check before posting. You can have that one.Im on my holidays today attempting to get my work done as well as debate on here.Maybe I need a lie down The original issue was with socialism and people thinking its like the plague.
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 1, 2019 9:02:27 GMT
Is this like the Nazis were socialists thread. Why, were you wrong about nearly everything in that thread too? I dont think I even posted about that one,just smiled from the sidelines.
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