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Post by hippa_potter_muss on Jun 3, 2008 21:48:12 GMT
??? Soooo anyone seen this, it's bloody thought provoking. If you have, do you reckon it's the truth and that the government did plant thermite throughout the world trade center and that a plane didn't actually hit the pentagon it was all a big set up, and that all religion is a huge fabrication on the Zodiac. An you will not see me having an RFID chip planting in me so the buggers can keep track of my every move. Their everywhere youy know WATCHING US!!! www.zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm ENJOY !!!
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Post by TheDee51 on Jun 3, 2008 21:51:21 GMT
You'd better hope Serpico doesn't see this thread
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Post by serpico on Jun 3, 2008 23:01:57 GMT
Here we go again... I don't believe the US government was behind 9/11, i believe Osama Bin Laden's group did it, i believe it was the blowback for 50 years of US intervention and meddling in the middle east, for US's unconditional support of Israel and it's occupation of Palestine, for the US helping prop up some of the most vicious tyrannies in the middle east (15 of the 19 hijackers from Saudi arabia). Do i think the people who died on 9/11 deserved it ? absolutely not, but i understand why it happened, and it didn't happen out of the clear blue sky like Bush and Blair would have you believe, i don't believe the hijackers were merely motiveless evil doers who attacked us because of a hatred of our freedoms and values, they attack us because of what we do, not who we are. this short video illustrates what i mean- video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2476452190633032034&hl=en
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Post by hippa_potter_muss on Jun 4, 2008 6:55:18 GMT
Here we go again... I don't believe the US government was behind 9/11, i believe Osama Bin Laden's group did it, i believe it was the blowback for 50 years of US intervention and meddling in the middle east, for US's unconditional support of Israel and it's occupation of Palestine, for the US helping prop up some of the most vicious tyrannies in the middle east (15 of the 19 hijackers from Saudi arabia). Do i think the people who died on 9/11 deserved it ? absolutely not, but i understand why it happened, and it didn't happen out of the clear blue sky like Bush and Blair would have you believe, i don't believe the hijackers were merely motiveless evil doers who attacked us because of a hatred of our freedoms and values, they attack us because of what we do, not who we are. Yeah, but have you seen Zeitgeist.
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Post by hippa_potter_muss on Jun 4, 2008 7:03:45 GMT
I see where your coming from Serpico but the amount of evidence that is shown to suggest it was the US government who set it up so they had an excuse to start "the war on terror", outweighs the other side of story really, I watched your video and it is obvious to see why Osama would lash back at the U.S. after all that they've done but, but Zeitgeist and many other 9/11 conspiracy's seem to show the evidence to prove it was the U.S. who planned it all so they could yet again go and invade the middle east.
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Post by monkfish90 on Jun 4, 2008 8:35:26 GMT
Well,im a vale fan and i sighned up today to take the piss. Then i noticed this thread,maybe some of you lot are not the brain damaged harplanders that i took you to be. Zeitgeist is indeed thought provoking,along with films such as 'Loose change' and 'Endgame' The more ive looked into this whole 9/11 thing,the more convinced i am that the whole thing was a set up,in fact,a 9 year old kid could take the official report on 9/11 apart...totall bollocks! Terrorisim my arse! And there was me expecting to see threads on yesterdays Dora the explorer
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Post by serpico on Jun 4, 2008 11:19:23 GMT
Here we go again... I don't believe the US government was behind 9/11, i believe Osama Bin Laden's group did it, i believe it was the blowback for 50 years of US intervention and meddling in the middle east, for US's unconditional support of Israel and it's occupation of Palestine, for the US helping prop up some of the most vicious tyrannies in the middle east (15 of the 19 hijackers from Saudi arabia). Do i think the people who died on 9/11 deserved it ? absolutely not, but i understand why it happened, and it didn't happen out of the clear blue sky like Bush and Blair would have you believe, i don't believe the hijackers were merely motiveless evil doers who attacked us because of a hatred of our freedoms and values, they attack us because of what we do, not who we are. Yeah, but have you seen Zeitgeist. I've seen the 9/11 part, it's speculation, not evidence. I think the 9/11 commission report was an absolute white wash, and i do believe they're covering something up, my guess is it's incompetence. The 9/11 attacks have certainly served the Bush admin well, particularly the neo-conservative clique that has shaped Bush's foreign policy since 9/11, we know they wanted to go after saddam and other countries in the middle east prior to 9/11 and the attacks gave them the green light. watch this- Hijacking catastrophe
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2008 11:22:01 GMT
It’s all a conspiracy.
Charlie Chaplin was the grassy knoll shooter, just ask serpico.
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Post by serpico on Jun 4, 2008 11:26:13 GMT
It’s all a conspiracy. Charlie Chaplin was the grassy knoll shooter, just ask serpico. Do you even read my posts ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2008 11:30:17 GMT
I’m only joshing mate.
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Post by TheDee51 on Jun 4, 2008 11:37:14 GMT
What about WMD's?? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2008 11:43:08 GMT
Dee, Iran’s got them hidden away mate.
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Post by TheDee51 on Jun 4, 2008 11:46:25 GMT
Thanks WD - if only there was somebody that could verify it ???
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Post by vestanpance on Jun 4, 2008 11:48:52 GMT
David Kelly knew they were hiding them in Iran, that's why the Shah shot him.
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Post by serpico on Jun 4, 2008 11:49:53 GMT
Thanks WD - if only there was somebody that could verify it ??? 16 of the US's own intelligence organizations have verified it, they don't have any., they halted whatever weapons program they had in 2003.
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Post by TheDee51 on Jun 4, 2008 11:50:57 GMT
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2008 11:50:58 GMT
US + Intelligence – is that a moron-oxy thingy?
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Post by serpico on Jun 4, 2008 11:53:09 GMT
US + Intelligence – is that a moron-oxy thingy? No, there are lots of intelligent Americans, what are you a America hater ?... are you in bed with the terrorists or something ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2008 11:55:52 GMT
All Americans are dumb, that is fact not opinion.
Iran has WMD’s, that is also fact.
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Post by serpico on Jun 4, 2008 12:05:16 GMT
All Americans are dumb, that is fact not opinion. Iran has WMD’s, that is also fact. Show me the evidence that they HAVE a nuclear weapon ?, even George Bush doesn't claim they HAVE a nuclear weapon, they haven't even been able to enrich uranium to 3% yet, and thats for a nuclear power program, not weapons, you have to enrich uranium to over 90% for a nuclear weapon, they're miles away from that, as the CIA has said, earliest is mid to late next decade. You conspiracy theorists crack me up, "Iran has a nuclear weapon" lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2008 12:06:44 GMT
George Bush lacks intelligence. He’s only just started using knives and forks.
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Post by TheDee51 on Jun 4, 2008 12:20:20 GMT
He's only just found out how to use a spork.
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Post by serpico on Jun 4, 2008 12:22:01 GMT
Bush is just a useful idiot for the neo-cons.
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Post by hippa_potter_muss on Jun 4, 2008 17:35:27 GMT
"I've seen the 9/11 part, it's speculation, not evidence."
Some of it may be speculation but you can't deny that some of the images shown such as the structural support beams being cut diagonally just like your suppose to when you want a building to fall down, and people in the basement witnessing explosions before the planes had even hit, and looking at the way building 7 fell especially when there was only fires on 2 or 3 floors of the 40 story building you can't say that was just luck.
I'd watch the other 2 parts of the film as well because the religion part just makes me laugh as if throughout history we've all been conned, and the 3rd part about the federal bank has links with the 9/11.
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Post by monkfish90 on Jun 4, 2008 17:40:09 GMT
Bush is a pawn for the illuminate (the real power). There were no wmd in iraq,9/11 was done to justify a invasion and to put the fear of terrorisim into people. CIA/MI5 Create the problem.. The public react.. The governments offer there solution.. Simple but effective,theyve been doing it for years. Sad,but very true
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Post by serpico on Jun 4, 2008 19:07:58 GMT
The US don't need casus belli's to get the US population motivated for war, they sure help, but if 9/11 hadn't happened they still would have made up some reason to attack Saddam, Bush had planned to hit Iraq before he took office, 9/11 was just an unbelievable gift for the neo-conservatives and war hawks in washington, they absolutely loved it, it gave them the justification to put there plans into motion.
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Post by starkiller on Jun 7, 2008 12:33:29 GMT
The most interesting part of the documentary is the financial bit at the end.
Surely, it's obvious to most the economy is fake and manipulated but this spells it out clearly and concisely.
Just look at the American economy and it's effects on other things (Northern rock, etc).
And the war agenda
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Post by scfcmatt on Jun 7, 2008 12:42:32 GMT
Serpico is it true that the plane that supposedly hit the pentagon had no wreckage whatsoever? I'm sure i saw somewhere that if that was the case it's the first ever in aviation history, i also heard that the hole in the penatgon was physically too small for it to have been a plane and that a few days previous all the important people from that side of the pentagon were transferred to another area
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Post by Funky on Jun 7, 2008 15:37:41 GMT
It's funny how the people who use the Oatcake forum know where the WMD are but not the governments.
I hope Bush and Brown don't read this board.
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Post by serpico on Jun 7, 2008 15:40:29 GMT
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