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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 27, 2019 12:37:42 GMT
I could imagine players like Bauer, Pieters, Woods, Bojan, McClean and Afobe could be of interest to other clubs?  |
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Post by 16quidachuck on Jun 27, 2019 12:42:10 GMT
yeah but most teams have seen our players play
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 27, 2019 12:43:49 GMT
McClean for Salah?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 27, 2019 12:45:50 GMT
Part-exchanges are rare in football for a wide variety of reasons. It's difficult to match the finances, it's difficult to find two teams that both have a player the other wants, it's difficult to bypass agents who would miss out on a massive transfer fee if their players was just swapped and above all it's difficult to find good players that are available especially if what you're sending the other way isn't the most appetising prospect.
How many pure part exchanges have we seen at Stoke in recent years? I can only really think of Jones and Odemwingie.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 27, 2019 12:46:26 GMT
Salah + cash I presume!  |
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Post by kelw on Jun 27, 2019 12:50:31 GMT
The McClean thing was boring months ago
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 27, 2019 13:06:37 GMT
The McClean thing was boring months ago Don’t call him a thing. So rude |
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Post by shrewspotter on Jun 27, 2019 13:37:19 GMT
We do swap players. We swap players for cash, in nearly all cases we swap players for far less cash than paid for said player. And in some cases we swap players for zero cash
Hope that answers your question Rob 👍
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 27, 2019 13:57:09 GMT
We do swap players. We swap players for cash, in nearly all cases we swap players for far less cash than paid for said player. And in some cases we swap players for zero cash Hope that answers your question Rob 👍 Not exactly! |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Jun 27, 2019 14:10:09 GMT
The truth is you would have problems giving some of them away.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 27, 2019 15:19:50 GMT
I don't know if it was a straight swap as such but the only one I can recall is the glamour deal of 2005 when we swapped Lewis Neal for Marlon Broomes.
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Post by Goonie on Jun 27, 2019 15:24:00 GMT
Which reminds of this classic telephone conversation:
Roy Evans (Liverpool):
Hi Alex, do you fancy swapping Collymore for Cole?
Alex Ferguson:
Yeah, how many bags?
(Hope that was true)
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Post by medwaypotter on Jun 27, 2019 15:26:46 GMT
I'd swap Wimmer for a KitKat.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 27, 2019 15:28:47 GMT
A bit off topic but I’d genuinely forgotten Woods existed.
We could swap him for an office plant in all honesty.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jun 27, 2019 15:32:58 GMT
A bit off topic but I’d genuinely forgotten Woods existed. We could swap him for an office plant in all honesty. or a crab |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 27, 2019 15:33:05 GMT
I'd swap Wimmer for a KitKat. He'd swap you for one as well. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Jun 27, 2019 15:35:05 GMT
I don't know if it was a straight swap as such but the only one I can recall is the glamour deal of 2005 when we swapped Lewis Neal for Marlon Broomes. there's the obvious Sheron for Scott. I do vaguely recall Buxton (or was it Antony Pulis) for Marc Wilson plus 5m, can't think of another |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 27, 2019 16:15:06 GMT
I don't know if it was a straight swap as such but the only one I can recall is the glamour deal of 2005 when we swapped Lewis Neal for Marlon Broomes. there's the obvious Sheron for Scott. I do vaguely recall Buxton (or was it Antony Pulis) for Marc Wilson plus 5m, can't think of another kenwyn and odimwengie.? |
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Post by Absolution on Jun 27, 2019 16:32:46 GMT
I don't know if it was a straight swap as such but the only one I can recall is the glamour deal of 2005 when we swapped Lewis Neal for Marlon Broomes. there's the obvious Sheron for Scott. I do vaguely recall Buxton (or was it Antony Pulis) for Marc Wilson plus 5m, can't think of another It was Kitson and Lawrence for Wilson, and Antony Pulis was part of some sort of swap deal with Andrew Davies. |
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Post by medwaypotter on Jun 27, 2019 16:47:26 GMT
I'd swap Wimmer for a KitKat. He'd swap you for one as well. I don't know why, he doesn't know me ………... |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jun 27, 2019 17:18:23 GMT
I saw Nathan Jones in Tesco last night and I asked him what he was doing and he said he was getting a bag of potatoes for James McLean. I told him that was a great swap and was there any chance of getting similar deals for Wimmer and Imbula. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 28, 2019 14:05:11 GMT
I don't know if it was a straight swap as such but the only one I can recall is the glamour deal of 2005 when we swapped Lewis Neal for Marlon Broomes. there's the obvious Sheron for Scott. I do vaguely recall Buxton (or was it Antony Pulis) for Marc Wilson plus 5m, can't think of another It was Lawrence and Kitson for Marc Wilson + x million. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2019 17:22:28 GMT
Part-exchanges are rare in football for a wide variety of reasons. It's difficult to match the finances, it's difficult to find two teams that both have a player the other wants, it's difficult to bypass agents who would miss out on a massive transfer fee if their players was just swapped and above all it's difficult to find good players that are available especially if what you're sending the other way isn't the most appetising prospect. How many pure part exchanges have we seen at Stoke in recent years? I can only really think of Jones and Odemwingie. They are rare but we’ve done 2 in the last 10 years which seems about 2 more than anyone else bar the clubs we dealt with! |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 30, 2019 6:33:01 GMT
Part-exchanges are rare in football for a wide variety of reasons. It's difficult to match the finances, it's difficult to find two teams that both have a player the other wants, it's difficult to bypass agents who would miss out on a massive transfer fee if their players was just swapped and above all it's difficult to find good players that are available especially if what you're sending the other way isn't the most appetising prospect. How many pure part exchanges have we seen at Stoke in recent years? I can only really think of Jones and Odemwingie. They are rare but we’ve done 2 in the last 10 years which seems about 2 more than anyone else bar the clubs we dealt with! Was crouch part of the Vokes deal? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2019 8:33:43 GMT
They are rare but we’ve done 2 in the last 10 years which seems about 2 more than anyone else bar the clubs we dealt with! Was crouch part of the Vokes deal? No idea but I think that’s all more to do with the Beswicks link. See Ward too. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 30, 2019 8:38:04 GMT
Was crouch part of the Vokes deal? No idea but I think that’s all more to do with the Beswicks link. See Ward too. If he was then it might be a change in approach - problem being that we were actually using Crouch last season as opposed to the others who are clearly no value to us. We can only effectively only part exchange players we see some value in. Which means we're screwed. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2019 8:41:47 GMT
No idea but I think that’s all more to do with the Beswicks link. See Ward too. If he was then it might be a change in approach - problem being that we were actually using Crouch last season as opposed to the others who are clearly no value to us. We can only effectively only part exchange players we see some value in. Which means we're screwed. We were using but much like most of his career he was more hindrance than help. We didn’t see value in Kitson and Lawrence at the time particularly and swapped them. I do think it’s rare but the one club that do do it, is us. And if it means some of these lot leave then go for it. Can’t see it happening bar maybe a player to Castle? |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 30, 2019 8:45:48 GMT
I saw Nathan Jones in Tesco last night and I asked him what he was doing and he said he was getting a bag of potatoes for James McLean. I told him that was a great swap and was there any chance of getting similar deals for Wimmer and Imbula. Are you sure it wasn't the cigarette counter looking for 10 Players? |
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Post by kelw on Jun 30, 2019 11:08:59 GMT
I saw Nathan Jones in Tesco last night and I asked him what he was doing and he said he was getting a bag of potatoes for James McLean. I told him that was a great swap and was there any chance of getting similar deals for Wimmer and Imbula. Then what happened? |
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Post by kelw on Jun 30, 2019 11:16:45 GMT
I don't know if it was a straight swap as such but the only one I can recall is the glamour deal of 2005 when we swapped Lewis Neal for Marlon Broomes. That was an odd one. I remember talking to Ben who worked at Stoke at the time re this. MON made an offer for Keith Scott on the Friday think it was as he knew him from his Wycombe days...we basically said we had to find a replacement over the weekend and MON asked if we fancied Sheron who was desperate to move back home. Apparently Sheron couldn't get out of Norwich fast enough and took a huge drop to join us . I think we paid something like £325 k on top of the Keith Scott fee. Apparently Sheron was so unfit when he joined us and was still commuting from the NW to Norwich . Right place, right time. |
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