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Post by franklin66 on Jun 10, 2019 18:09:26 GMT
Of course, he may have decided to plead not guilty because he's errr not guilty. Would an off the cuff sentencing remark by a District Judge make you plead guilty if you weren't? I've won many a fail provide trial because the police messed up somewhere. Perfectly fair comment. Apparently his reason for refusing to give the breath test was due to asthma (although the police say he didn't disclose that as a reason for him to not take it at the time, and the bodycam CCTV also doesn't indicate he did..i believe if you have a reasonable reason behind not taking the test, then you have to declare it at the time?). He also refused to give a sample at the station (which i'd guess asthma isn't really an excuse for)... Now, while both of those seem fairly clear cut (either he did or didn't do the breath test and sample) yes, police errors/screw ups of technicalities are of course possible. If he gets off on a technicality however, that wouldn't alter him being a fucking idiot....he'd simply be a fucking idiot that got off due to bigger fucking idiots Spot on mate it's quite a simple procedure to follow.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jun 10, 2019 18:13:03 GMT
The judge also advised Saunders that if he pleads guilty it could make a "significant difference" to the sentence he received, but Saunders has still chosen to deny the charges instead. In other words, he's been told specifically by the judge that it will be custodial and then given a chance by the judge to possibly avoid that, but has now waived that opportunity by choosing to plead not guilty. In short...he's been a fucking idiot by drink driving, a fucking idiot by refusing to give a breath test, a fucking idiot by then refusing to give a sample at the station and then compounded it all by being a fucking idiot by not taking the judge's advice. Thus proving beyond all doubt what we all knew about him anyway i.e. he's a fucking idiot! FYI, the dangerous driving charge (which had been added to the charge of failing to provide a roadside test and a breathalyser test at the station), was discontinued by the CPS on Friday
Better than poetry that. There's an almost Hemmingwayesque repetitive lilt to it....👍
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Jun 10, 2019 18:33:07 GMT
It's not an automatic jail term Shirley? There must be aggravating features. Deliberate refusal with higher culpability (no reason to not provide a sample) and great harm (driving impaired or like a knob irrespective of drink) makes it a Class 1 Failure to Provide a Specimen of breath (which he allegedly did twice) which carries a mandatory 12 week custodial sentence. A kid not that long ago ran over and killed two people, fled the scene and was then found out to be driving under the influence of drugs. He only got 100 hours community service and a fine
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 10, 2019 19:06:48 GMT
Wondered why he hasn’t been on talk sport.
Garbage listening to him and Brazil on a morning. And yet I still listen.....
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Post by kevan45 on Jun 10, 2019 19:34:28 GMT
He tells a great story - him, Jim White and Simon Jordan make Talksport a great listen.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 10, 2019 20:06:12 GMT
Deliberate refusal with higher culpability (no reason to not provide a sample) and great harm (driving impaired or like a knob irrespective of drink) makes it a Class 1 Failure to Provide a Specimen of breath (which he allegedly did twice) which carries a mandatory 12 week custodial sentence. A kid not that long ago ran over and killed two people, fled the scene and was then found out to be driving under the influence of drugs. He only got 100 hours community service and a fine That’s because (somehow) he wasn’t charged with causing death by dangerous driving. He was only charge for Driving under the influence which he pleaded guilty to.
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