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Post by Pugsley on Jun 6, 2019 21:29:01 GMT
England should definitely hoof it.. it's what brought them success in the past...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 21:29:09 GMT
Then why fucking try doing it?! A completely valid question and one I have no answer for. But that back 4 should never play together again. Arnold, Gomez and Rose are the 3 that have to play when possible. Fuck knows who the other centre back is. None are good enough. You know your country is in dire straits when Danny Rose becomes a must for the team...
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 6, 2019 21:29:30 GMT
A midfield of Rice Delph and Barkely, asking for it. I have to say it's not the most inspiring selection is it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 6, 2019 21:29:55 GMT
John Stones did not feature for Man City towards the end of the season in the big games and it’s time in my opinion he didn’t feature for England.Yes he played out well for our goal but like Neville said he was beaten every time in the air tonight also What fucks me off is that he does this shit regularly. He’s always been awful.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 6, 2019 21:30:20 GMT
A completely valid question and one I have no answer for. But that back 4 should never play together again. Arnold, Gomez and Rose are the 3 that have to play when possible. Fuck knows who the other centre back is. None are good enough. You know your country is in dire straits when Danny Rose becomes a must for the team... Danny Rose is a good player!?!?
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Post by Absolution on Jun 6, 2019 21:32:01 GMT
I wonder what Shawcross thinks when he sees how untouchable Stones is, no matter how many bollocks he drops in an England strip. Must be really frustrating when he thinks about how he was discarded for one poor performance against one of the world's greatest players. Unfortunately Ryan's top flight career was abrubtly shafted after that fateful match against Arsenal. Mentally he was never the same player. Such a shame. It was shafted after that game, but it was nowt to do with Ryan's mentality. He was every bit as good after as he was before, but was made into some sort of pantomime villain by Wenger, then used as a scapegoat by Hodgson.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 6, 2019 21:33:32 GMT
John Stones did not feature for Man City towards the end of the season in the big games and it’s time in my opinion he didn’t feature for England.Yes he played out well for our goal but like Neville said he was beaten every time in the air tonight also What fucks me off is that he does this shit regularly. He’s always been awful. Couldnt agree more but the media love in for him is pathetic
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 6, 2019 21:35:46 GMT
Gary Neville the ace pundit, telling it how it is and refusing to condemn Stones. Lilly livered tosser. And he's ugly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 21:35:51 GMT
You know your country is in dire straits when Danny Rose becomes a must for the team... Danny Rose is a good player!?!? He is crap, although no worse than those who were play today.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jun 6, 2019 21:36:24 GMT
This VAR thing is total shite. Simply total shite.
7 minutes added on due to asking a prick scrub through several camera angles to see if something might have occurred. It just gives players an excuse to moan and beg to overturn something they’re unhappy with.
Even if Lingard was onside there was no way were the dutch stopping that goal. The ref and liner had no objection but if we are going to have 5 mins added on to everything cos of moaners then thats crap.
Anything that looks fine to the naked eye can be overturned. Just shit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 6, 2019 21:36:42 GMT
Danny Rose is a good player!?!? He is crap, although no worse than those who were play today. He really isn’t.
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Post by funkydung on Jun 6, 2019 21:38:07 GMT
If the best players in the world fuck up playing out from the back then England are being a bit naive....never mind Stoke 😂
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Post by pottersrule on Jun 6, 2019 21:39:40 GMT
Great going forward,fast,defends well,good in the air and tactically aware.
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 6, 2019 21:40:10 GMT
Unfortunately Ryan's top flight career was abrubtly shafted after that fateful match against Arsenal. Mentally he was never the same player. Such a shame. It was shafted after that game, but it was nowt to do with Ryan's mentality. He was every bit as good after as he was before, but was made into some sort of pantomime villain by Wenger, then used as a scapegoat by Hodgson. That's what I mean. It's a lot to do with mentality though.
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Post by trainstobrazil on Jun 6, 2019 21:41:42 GMT
VAR is the death of football.
If it was being used in the semi final v Cardiff in the play-offs would we have celebrated in the same manner?
We probably would have half celebrated, worrying that it hit his arm and not his arse.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 6, 2019 21:44:37 GMT
Great going forward,fast,defends well,good in the air and tactically aware. Thank you.
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Post by funkydung on Jun 6, 2019 21:45:31 GMT
England should definitely hoof it.. it's what brought them success in the past... Might of been penalty heartbreak if they did instead of laughingstock humiliation 😊
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 6, 2019 21:45:49 GMT
Great going forward,fast,defends well,good in the air and tactically aware. In an hour when you're still debating this, you'll regret starting it.
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Post by Boothen on Jun 6, 2019 22:28:59 GMT
Two things, 1.) VAR is ruining football and 2.) how much were Stones and Barkley paid to throw the game?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 6, 2019 22:38:15 GMT
The predictability of England semi-finals is amusing if nothing else.
First time I've allowed myself an ultimately doomed full-on mental since Sol Campbell's goal against Argentina in France '98. Not sure how VAR gets around this emotion-killing element. I suppose the short answer is it doesn't
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 6, 2019 22:38:49 GMT
I think Southgate has slipped down the greasy pole tonight and has to examine his errors and not repeat them.
Picked Sterling as captain and he was anonymous for much of the match.
Put on Kane who is clearly not match fit as was demonstrated for Spurs.
Far too much playing backwards and sideways and eventually sloppiness led to goals.
Lack of width, except when FBs went forward, and too many balls through the middle. Netherlands gave us a passing lesson by the end of the match.
Picked Stones who has not played regularly recently.
Whilst there were the odd flash of good football from England, on balance, it was their worst performance for years. The team were just not prepared thoroughly; flying in 2 days before a match was a serious error.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 6, 2019 22:42:31 GMT
What fucks me off is that he does this shit regularly. He’s always been awful. Couldnt agree more but the media love in for him is pathetic He's always had a fuck up in him but it keeps getting said and it keeps getting ignored, I don't get it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 6, 2019 22:44:59 GMT
Couldnt agree more but the media love in for him is pathetic He's always had a fuck up in him but it keeps getting said and it keeps getting ignored, I don't get it. It’s just odd. Is it because there’s sod all else behind him? Maguire isn’t much better. Gomez is the only English CB who is actually ok.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 6, 2019 22:59:06 GMT
Couldnt agree more but the media love in for him is pathetic He's always had a fuck up in him but it keeps getting said and it keeps getting ignored, I don't get it. Neither do I, and it's happened right from the start of his career. Weirdest thing ever.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jun 6, 2019 23:21:18 GMT
England should definitely hoof it.. it's what brought them success in the past... Pugs. I haven’t read the previous posts. On an assumption my reply would be; We have witnessed two awful goals tonight due to a “flawed fashion” of playing out from the back “at all cost”. We witnessed it first hand under MH. The ideology is flawless where you don’t have quick thinking, extremely fit players willing to press high up the pitch and/or poor movement from those in front of the ball. Unfortunately we over complicate what is a relatively simple game. Is it a case of “hoof it” or completing perfectly a “long pass” as long as we don’t put ourselves (players) under unnecessary pressure
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Post by Gods on Jun 6, 2019 23:38:33 GMT
VAR is the death of football. If it was being used in the semi final v Cardiff in the play-offs would we have celebrated in the same manner? We probably would have half celebrated, worrying that it hit his arm and not his arse. I think the ultimate upshot of VAR will be the laws of the game will have to change. We have the off-side law to prevent goal hanging not to create a cat and mouse game of infinitesimal margins between attackers and defenders 40 yards from goal. We have the penalty for hand ball rule to stop defenders acting as goalkeepers not so if a defender slides in and the ball strikes some tiny part of the back of his arm quite accidentally. Oh, and it's killed the 'mental' stone dead. A goal now consists of 2 mini celebrations. The first being the thought of the possibility of shortly celebrating a goal when the ball goes in. And the second is carried out watching a referee in a head set award it.
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 7, 2019 3:22:38 GMT
VAR is the death of football. If it was being used in the semi final v Cardiff in the play-offs would we have celebrated in the same manner? We probably would have half celebrated, worrying that it hit his arm and not his arse. I think the ultimate upshot of VAR will be the laws of the game will have to change. We have the off-side law to prevent goal hanging not to create a cat and mouse game of infinitesimal margins between attackers and defenders 40 yards from goal. We have the penalty for hand ball rule to stop defenders acting as goalkeepers not so if a defender slides in and the ball strikes some tiny part of the back of his arm quite accidentally. Oh, and it's killed the 'mental' stone dead. A goal now consists of 2 mini celebrations. The first being the thought of the possibility of shortly celebrating a goal when the ball goes in. And the second is carried out watching a referee in a head set award it. Good concise summary of the problem with it for offsides. I can’t bear these toenail-length decisions overturning massive moments in games, however correct they might be by the letter of the law. The disallowed Sterling goal against Tottenham was absolutely absurd.. Aguero, the assisting “build-up” player, found to be offside from a suicidal backwards ball by Eriksen, which happened to deflect off a ManC player on the way through, while Aguero was on his way back up the pitch but still an inch offside. Like you say, is that really a good example, in spirit, of what the offside rule was meant to prevent?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 4:32:54 GMT
He is crap, although no worse than those who were play today. He really isn’t. That certainly is a novelty: a diehard SCFC Danny Rose fan! Have you never watched him unravel whenever he played at the Brit?
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Post by sportsman on Jun 7, 2019 5:02:50 GMT
I think Southgate has slipped down the greasy pole tonight and has to examine his errors and not repeat them. Picked Sterling as captain and he was anonymous for much of the match. Put on Kane who is clearly not match fit as was demonstrated for Spurs. Far too much playing backwards and sideways and eventually sloppiness led to goals. Lack of width, except when FBs went forward, and too many balls through the middle. Netherlands gave us a passing lesson by the end of the match. Picked Stones who has not played regularly recently. Whilst there were the odd flash of good football from England, on balance, it was their worst performance for years. The team were just not prepared thoroughly; flying in 2 days before a match was a serious error. There was a lot of sideways and backwards passing because that has to be one of the worst midfields ever to play for England. Only Barkley even touched the ball.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 7, 2019 5:06:20 GMT
That certainly is a novelty: a diehard SCFC Danny Rose fan! Have you never watched him unravel whenever he played at the Brit? Not at all but there’s a distinction between judging the character of him and judging how he plays football. He’s a massive twat but he’s a very good left back.
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