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Post by felonious on May 26, 2019 19:49:21 GMT
Who ever it is will be a Tory bastard. Austerity and cuts to education, NHS, care services etc. The rich get richer and we the worker bees get trodden on. Could be worse, it could be a Socialist Labour government that de-incentivises business and aspiration through a mix of punitive taxation, increased regulation that will hit small and medium sized business disproportionately harder, renationalisation of utilities which will drive prices up and standards down as there will be no competition to increase standards and an evermore interfering state which of course will be funded out of our Arse pockets for no benefit to those who work for their bread Time to by shares in the candle makers?
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Post by felonious on May 26, 2019 19:55:03 GMT
Could be worse, it could be a Socialist Labour government that de-incentivises business and aspiration through a mix of punitive taxation, increased regulation that will hit small and medium sized business disproportionately harder, renationalisation of utilities which will drive prices up and standards down as there will be no competition to increase standards and an evermore interfering state which of course will be funded out of our Arse pockets for no benefit to those who work for their bread Depends which side of the fence you are on rob. Depends on how much you value our British socialist history of welfare and healthcare for all. Depends if you trust a Tory. Depends if you have enough money to look after your elderly parents and keep your children in the little "extras" at school. Depends whether or not you're comfortable with passing the credit card bill onto your children and grandchildren. This Conservative party have at least begun the process of making current individuals and businesses start to fund future pensions.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 26, 2019 19:58:39 GMT
Could be worse, it could be a Socialist Labour government that de-incentivises business and aspiration through a mix of punitive taxation, increased regulation that will hit small and medium sized business disproportionately harder, renationalisation of utilities which will drive prices up and standards down as there will be no competition to increase standards and an evermore interfering state which of course will be funded out of our Arse pockets for no benefit to those who work for their bread Depends which side of the fence you are on rob. Depends on how much you value our British socialist history of welfare and healthcare for all. Depends if you trust a Tory. Depends if you have enough money to look after your elderly parents and keep your children in the little "extras" at school. Trouble is, Labour have lost the trust of a lot of their natural voters.
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Post by smallthorner on May 26, 2019 20:13:59 GMT
Depends which side of the fence you are on rob. Depends on how much you value our British socialist history of welfare and healthcare for all. Depends if you trust a Tory. Depends if you have enough money to look after your elderly parents and keep your children in the little "extras" at school. Depends whether or not you're comfortable with passing the credit card bill onto your children and grandchildren. This Conservative party have at least begun the process of making current individuals and businesses start to fund future pensions. Yes of course. We could be discussing the pros and cons of party politics all night. I know a lot of people who cannot even fund their semi-contributory workplace pensions and have opted out. Age, wealth and health ....
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Post by felonious on May 26, 2019 20:22:53 GMT
Depends whether or not you're comfortable with passing the credit card bill onto your children and grandchildren. This Conservative party have at least begun the process of making current individuals and businesses start to fund future pensions. Yes of course. We could be discussing the pros and cons of party politics all night. I know a lot of people who cannot even fund their semi-contributory workplace pensions and have opted out. Age, wealth and health .... The larger than inflation increases in personal allowances and the larger than inflation increases in minimum wage have negated the increases in pension contributions for employees. No help for the employers though.
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Post by smallthorner on May 26, 2019 20:24:46 GMT
Yes of course. We could be discussing the pros and cons of party politics all night. I know a lot of people who cannot even fund their semi-contributory workplace pensions and have opted out. Age, wealth and health .... The larger than inflation increases in personal allowances and the larger than inflation increases in minimum wage have negated the increases in pension contributions for employees. No help for the employers though.
Depends which employers you talk about.
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Post by felonious on May 26, 2019 20:37:27 GMT
The larger than inflation increases in personal allowances and the larger than inflation increases in minimum wage have negated the increases in pension contributions for employees. No help for the employers though.
Depends which employers you talk about. Which employers are getting help with pension contributions now up to 3%?
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Post by smallthorner on May 26, 2019 20:42:02 GMT
Depends which employers you talk about. Which employers are getting help with pension contributions now up to 3%? Pray tell.
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Post by felonious on May 26, 2019 20:45:07 GMT
Which employers are getting help with pension contributions now up to 3%? Pray tell. The question is to you. I know you don't like answering questions but have a go, there's a good lad
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Post by desman2 on May 26, 2019 20:45:51 GMT
Depends whether or not you're comfortable with passing the credit card bill onto your children and grandchildren. This Conservative party have at least begun the process of making current individuals and businesses start to fund future pensions. Yes of course. We could be discussing the pros and cons of party politics all night. I know a lot of people who cannot even fund their semi-contributory workplace pensions and have opted out. Age, wealth and health .... Thought it was 5% now. We had a newsletter at work outlining it
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Post by smallthorner on May 26, 2019 21:13:28 GMT
The question is to you. I know you don't like answering questions but have a go, there's a good lad I'm asking you to tell me the answer. What's the problem?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 26, 2019 21:51:17 GMT
Whoever we end up with from any party we’re absolutely fucked.
Politics should be disbanded, cretins.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 27, 2019 5:09:58 GMT
The PM's reign's finally ended, And all of her colleagues pretended To pay their respects, While each one expects A turn at her job would be splendid
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Post by felonious on May 27, 2019 5:26:21 GMT
The question is to you. I know you don't like answering questions but have a go, there's a good lad I'm asking you to tell me the answer. What's the problem? "Depends which employers you talk about."
Your comment, I'm asking you which employers are getting help? Every employer is obligated to contribute 3% to the workplace pension I'm now assuming that you don't know this fact. The control is with the employee making the contribution. So which employers are you talking about?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 6:00:03 GMT
Build a bonfire build a bonfire....
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Post by felonious on May 27, 2019 6:43:18 GMT
Yes of course. We could be discussing the pros and cons of party politics all night. I know a lot of people who cannot even fund their semi-contributory workplace pensions and have opted out. Age, wealth and health .... Thought it was 5% now. We had a newsletter at work outlining it It is 5% employees and 3% employers but it is voluntary. Your employer cannot tell you this because they can't be seen to exert any influence on whether you make contributions or not. It was not compulsory either for employees to take on the latest increase from 3% to 5%.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 6:57:54 GMT
I think the growth of the Lib Dems in both recent polls will shape where the Tories will go. Expect to see someone just to the right of centre as they potentially prepare for a GE and another coalition after a hung parliament.
Many predicting they'll panic and go after Farage but I can't see it.
I bet Boris is as sick as a parrot this morning, Lol.
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Post by zerps on May 27, 2019 7:06:57 GMT
We need a northern / non london party to evolve. Every fucker outside london votes for them. They’ve had their day in the big smoke.
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Post by lordb on May 27, 2019 8:40:11 GMT
We need a northern / non london party to evolve. Every fucker outside london votes for them. They’ve had their day in the big smoke. Non London independence party. What has bugged me about Scots arguments for independence is they have the same beef we do. Have far more in common with. Glaswegian than someone from the Home Counties
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Post by zerps on May 27, 2019 8:52:14 GMT
We need a northern / non london party to evolve. Every fucker outside london votes for them. They’ve had their day in the big smoke. Non London independence party. What has bugged me about Scots arguments for independence is they have the same beef we do. Have far more in common with. Glaswegian than someone from the Home Counties 100%
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Post by desman2 on May 27, 2019 9:40:22 GMT
Thought it was 5% now. We had a newsletter at work outlining it It is 5% employees and 3% employers but it is voluntary. Your employer cannot tell you this because they can't be seen to exert any influence on whether you make contributions or not. It was not compulsory either for employees to take on the latest increase from 3% to 5%. Thanks for the clarification.
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Post by felonious on May 27, 2019 13:41:59 GMT
The question is to you. I know you don't like answering questions but have a go, there's a good lad I'm asking you to tell me the answer. What's the problem? Deleting posts now Numpty
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Post by smallthorner on May 27, 2019 14:56:37 GMT
I'm asking you to tell me the answer. What's the problem? Deleting posts now Numpty What the hell are you on about you muppet. You're mad you are.
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Post by felonious on May 27, 2019 15:09:05 GMT
Deleting posts now Numpty What the hell are you on about you muppet. You're mad you are. You're getting sad now Numpty
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 27, 2019 17:50:17 GMT
Will not matter who it is,they are all Cunts.
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Post by auntiegeorge on May 27, 2019 18:11:30 GMT
Just read in The Telegraph that if yesterday's results were replicated in a general election the Brexit Party would have 458 seats in the House of Commons! The Tories would lose every single seat.
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Post by salopstick on May 27, 2019 18:33:09 GMT
I’m not sure the WI that is the Tory membership would vote for javid yet.
For me there are too many candidates
They need to get in a closed room and between them whittle down. If they can elect the right leader uniting that party they can recover from May
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 28, 2019 5:53:24 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48428761Hunt: against no deal Mcvey: absolutely for no deal Gove: scrapping 'settled status' - smart move. Now down to 5/1 All the promises and posturing start here, folks. Could this leadership contest actually be a good thing for Brexit?
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 28, 2019 6:07:42 GMT
At least McVey isn't running around like the most of them shouting "No Deal will be a disaster" like some kind of Dalek that's forgotten their lines.
Puts me off Hunt and Gove straight away. Both have a decent chance of winning, though, because they are slippery enough. I just think Gove, in particular, would give too much away.
I want to hear a candidate voice the issues that Leavers voted Brexit for.
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Post by harryburrows on May 28, 2019 6:28:32 GMT
At least McVey isn't running around like the most of them shouting "No Deal will be a disaster" like some kind of Dalek that's forgotten their lines. Puts me off Hunt and Gove straight away. Both have a decent chance of winning, though, because they are slippery enough. I just think Gove, in particular, would give too much away. I want to hear a candidate voice the issues that Leavers voted Brexit for. I think Parliament have shown they won't support anything resembling a Brino . There are only two ways forward imo , a no deal running down the clock Brexit Or an in out referendum both of which would be preferable
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