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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 20:43:56 GMT
Like it or not ....The Next PM...
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Post by mattyd on May 16, 2019 21:02:46 GMT
I just hope Labour get rid of Corbynski,
Either this idiot or Corbynski as PM would be a catastrophe for this country.
I'm dyed in the wool Tory, but i'd rather have a Labour ( Non Corbynski ) Government than see this idiot in No 10.
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Post by robstokie on May 16, 2019 21:17:55 GMT
I just hope Labour get rid of Corbynski, Either this idiot or Corbynski as PM would be a catastrophe for this country. I'm dyed in the wool Tory, but i'd rather have a Labour ( Non Corbynski ) Government than see this idiot in No 10. Boris is a massive clown, but Corbyn genuinely scares me - He and McDonnell could literally bankrupt this country in a few weeks.
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Post by franklin66 on May 16, 2019 21:22:35 GMT
I don't think he will too many back stabbing tossers for him to win look at the last one.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 16, 2019 21:37:20 GMT
There's a shambles thread for this, I mean that's not going to change, is it?
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Post by lordb on May 16, 2019 21:50:30 GMT
Johnson has built up a lot of enemies in the parliamentary party. Grassroots like him.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 16, 2019 21:59:03 GMT
An extremely dangerous idiot. Luckily, Tory MPs for once in their wretched and destructive lives will do a service to the nation and won’t let the fuck bucket anywhere near the final two who go to the the regressive Darby and Joan club that is the Tory membership.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 16, 2019 22:11:25 GMT
The fact that we could feasibly live in a world where Donald Trump and Boris Johnson are the leaders of two of the most powerful and influential nations on the planet is so frightening it’s actually hilarious.
Boris Johnson is a fucking hymen, of the highest order, the bloke is dangerous.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 16, 2019 23:26:43 GMT
It'll be either Boris as a shit or bust option or the safe option, probably Javid or Gove.
Either way, it's their last PM for a while in my opinion as the country's had enough of the cunts. Possibly a 3 party+ coalition will be next up I reckon.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 16, 2019 23:29:14 GMT
Johnson has built up a lot of enemies in the parliamentary party. Grassroots like him. Politics very own Harry Redknapp
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Post by harryburrows on May 17, 2019 5:29:43 GMT
Boris is the only candidate that will put farage back in his box . If he is voted leader and secures a clean break from the EU the threat of an imminent GE will recede
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 5:42:16 GMT
Never again will I vote red or blue...no matter what they promise
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 17, 2019 7:35:33 GMT
Boris is the only candidate that will put farage back in his box . If he is voted leader and secures a clean break from the EU the threat of an imminent GE will recede I think though Harry that there are many , particularly Remainers, who dislike/ hate/ even despise Boris in the Conservative Party and so his chances of being elected are reduced. Then if he is there will be opposition to him within the party and it seems to me that the arithmetic in parliament remains the same so to get a " no deal"( ie true) Brexit through will be difficult in my opinion. I don't think that he will stand but Steve Baker seems good to me( with Priti Patel as deputy)
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Post by Northy on May 17, 2019 7:36:56 GMT
A frightening thought
Will his brother vote for him?
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Post by auntiegeorge on May 17, 2019 7:50:42 GMT
Boris is the only candidate that will put farage back in his box . If he is voted leader and secures a clean break from the EU the threat of an imminent GE will recede I think though Harry that there are many , particularly Remainers, who dislike/ hate/ even despise Boris in the Conservative Party and so his chances of being elected are reduced. Then if he is there will be opposition to him within the party and it seems to me that the arithmetic in parliament remains the same do to get a " no deal"( ie true) Brexit through will be difficult in my opinion. Thing is bigjohn the Tories effectively lost their mandate to pursue a WTA Brexit following the results of the 2017 election. Calling that election was May's fatal mistake. She threw away a Tory majority - and all for nothing. And she's still here! Even the spineless Tories can't get rid of her. A new leader/PM won't have the authority to pursue a clean Brexit either. The Brexit Party has now inherited that mandate and Brexit belongs to them alone. I think BJ would make a disastrous leader. Trump, Johnson, Putin, Xi and Kim. Can you imagine?
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Post by zerps on May 17, 2019 8:11:01 GMT
At least he’s got personality, unlike any other politician in the uk.
He also speaks his mind unlike any other politician in the uk.
His book on Churchill is a great read. Worth a vote in itself.
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Post by cerebralstokie on May 17, 2019 8:48:27 GMT
I can't stand the man. His privileged background and upbrining and education suggest to me that he has little empathy with ordinary people. As Mayor of London he wasted huge amounts of money on projects such as the zipwire accross the Thames and the garden bridge. He was a disaster as Foreign Secretary often engaging his tongue before his brain - a numberof gaffes spring to mind. It is all about me me me. O.K.he is well educated and is a good speaker. I know he is popular with blue rinse Tories but not with M.Ps. Sadly the voices of principled M.Ps on both sides are being drowned out. Frank Field and Margaret Hodge for Labour have been the subject of witch hunts. No wonder people are becoming totally disillusiond with Parliament - too many putting party before country.We had a referendum which delivered a verdict. We have failed to implement the outcome. I voted remain partly because I could forsee the unintended consequences of voting leave. However it is paramount that the verdict of the people is delivered and it is partly because the likes of Boris and his ilk that this has not happened.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 17, 2019 8:50:59 GMT
I think though Harry that there are many , particularly Remainers, who dislike/ hate/ even despise Boris in the Conservative Party and so his chances of being elected are reduced. Then if he is there will be opposition to him within the party and it seems to me that the arithmetic in parliament remains the same do to get a " no deal"( ie true) Brexit through will be difficult in my opinion. Thing is bigjohn the Tories effectively lost their mandate to pursue a WTA Brexit following the results of the 2017 election. Calling that election was May's fatal mistake. She threw away a Tory majority - and all for nothing. And she's still here! Even the spineless Tories can't get rid of her. A new leader/PM won't have the authority to pursue a clean Brexit either. The Brexit Party has now inherited that mandate and Brexit belongs to them alone. I think BJ would make a disastrous leader. Trump, Johnson, Putin, Xi and Kim. Can you imagine? I agree with you here auntie , except for the last paragraph, In not sure that Johnson would be disastrous, nor am I sure that Trump is..... perhaps it depends upon how you measure success. Had Trump achieved any more or less than Obama, the Bushes, the Clintons. I genuinely don't know either way..... but what he has done ( amongst the other unorthodox personal stuff) has made people think that traditional politicians don't have a god given right to run the country....and " politics" isn't just a career of choice / a profession. Social media has helped to be inclusive and to widen the debate.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 17, 2019 8:55:26 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 17, 2019 9:49:43 GMT
Boris is the only candidate that will put farage back in his box . If he is voted leader and secures a clean break from the EU the threat of an imminent GE will recede That's the only reason he's coming forward now. Its all rigged.
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Post by Northy on May 17, 2019 9:54:51 GMT
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Post by auntiegeorge on May 17, 2019 10:57:55 GMT
Thing is bigjohn the Tories effectively lost their mandate to pursue a WTA Brexit following the results of the 2017 election. Calling that election was May's fatal mistake. She threw away a Tory majority - and all for nothing. And she's still here! Even the spineless Tories can't get rid of her. A new leader/PM won't have the authority to pursue a clean Brexit either. The Brexit Party has now inherited that mandate and Brexit belongs to them alone. I think BJ would make a disastrous leader. Trump, Johnson, Putin, Xi and Kim. Can you imagine? I agree with you here auntie , except for the last paragraph, In not sure that Johnson would be disastrous, nor am I sure that Trump is..... perhaps it depends upon how you measure success. Had Trump achieved any more or less than Obama, the Bushes, the Clintons. I genuinely don't know either way..... but what he has done ( amongst the other unorthodox personal stuff) has made people think that traditional politicians don't have a god given right to run the country....and " politics" isn't just a career of choice / a profession. Social media has helped to be inclusive and to widen the debate. You make some very good points there. I'm actually a Trump supporter for the most part and welcome his presidency. But I disagree with your last line! I think whilst social media has undoubtedly helped Trump, Farage and others to become pre-eminent politicians, it has skewed the debate in negative ways. Much more often than not it's been one-sided, offensive, objectionable, and detrimental to political discourse. In fact to all areas of life, which is why I have never had anything to do with it.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 11:24:10 GMT
I think though Harry that there are many , particularly Remainers, who dislike/ hate/ even despise Boris in the Conservative Party and so his chances of being elected are reduced. Then if he is there will be opposition to him within the party and it seems to me that the arithmetic in parliament remains the same do to get a " no deal"( ie true) Brexit through will be difficult in my opinion. Thing is bigjohn the Tories effectively lost their mandate to pursue a WTA Brexit following the results of the 2017 election. Calling that election was May's fatal mistake. She threw away a Tory majority - and all for nothing. And she's still here! Even the spineless Tories can't get rid of her. A new leader/PM won't have the authority to pursue a clean Brexit either. The Brexit Party has now inherited that mandate and Brexit belongs to them alone. I think BJ would make a disastrous leader. Trump, Johnson, Putin, Xi and Kim. Can you imagine? My personal thoughts are...she knew what she was doing throwing away her majority Everything she has done since we voted to leave the EU has gone just how she planned it. The next step is planned too Stick in a leaver now shes sabotaged any hope of leaving the way Cameron told us we would
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Post by redstriper on May 17, 2019 12:18:16 GMT
He epitome of a workshy fop, who would sell his own mother to be PM. If the Tories elect this man they deserve to sink into complete obscurity.
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Post by harryburrows on May 17, 2019 13:27:57 GMT
Boris is the only candidate that will put farage back in his box . If he is voted leader and secures a clean break from the EU the threat of an imminent GE will recede I think though Harry that there are many , particularly Remainers, who dislike/ hate/ even despise Boris in the Conservative Party and so his chances of being elected are reduced. Then if he is there will be opposition to him within the party and it seems to me that the arithmetic in parliament remains the same so to get a " no deal"( ie true) Brexit through will be difficult in my opinion. I don't think that he will stand but Steve Baker seems good to me( with Priti Patel as deputy) You may be right john but I do think all any new leader needs to do is run down the clock whilst at the same time promising to renegotiate the backstop , we will leave on 31st oct deal or no deal . As for those remain tories I suspect anyone that threatens to pull the rug from under farage will get their support . They are in panic mode now desperately trying to keep their noses in the Westminster trough .i don't see any of the other candidate having enough support across the party
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 13:38:14 GMT
He epitome of a workshy fop, who would sell his own mother to be PM. If the Tories elect this man they deserve to sink into complete obscurity. Makes no difference who they stick in charge, theyll sink anyway
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 13:44:17 GMT
Thing is bigjohn the Tories effectively lost their mandate to pursue a WTA Brexit following the results of the 2017 election. Calling that election was May's fatal mistake. She threw away a Tory majority - and all for nothing. And she's still here! Even the spineless Tories can't get rid of her. A new leader/PM won't have the authority to pursue a clean Brexit either. The Brexit Party has now inherited that mandate and Brexit belongs to them alone. I think BJ would make a disastrous leader. Trump, Johnson, Putin, Xi and Kim. Can you imagine? My personal thoughts are...she knew what she was doing throwing away her majority Everything she has done since we voted to leave the EU has gone just how she planned it. The next step is planned too Stick in a leaver now shes sabotaged any hope of leaving the way Cameron told us we would Edit To quote some bird off sky news...as long as theres a house of commons a y Tory leaving PM is doomed
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 17, 2019 19:58:11 GMT
If I had to put money on someone, it would be Sajid Javid, largely because he's not pissed me off about anything yet, and that's good going for a Home Secretary. His ethnicity will help him too as many Tories will be able to say how inclusive they are etc, plus he's openly not religious.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 17, 2019 20:08:56 GMT
Thing is bigjohn the Tories effectively lost their mandate to pursue a WTA Brexit following the results of the 2017 election. Calling that election was May's fatal mistake. She threw away a Tory majority - and all for nothing. And she's still here! Even the spineless Tories can't get rid of her. A new leader/PM won't have the authority to pursue a clean Brexit either. The Brexit Party has now inherited that mandate and Brexit belongs to them alone. I think BJ would make a disastrous leader. Trump, Johnson, Putin, Xi and Kim. Can you imagine? My personal thoughts are...she knew what she was doing throwing away her majority Everything she has done since we voted to leave the EU has gone just how she planned it. The next step is planned too Stick in a leaver now shes sabotaged any hope of leaving the way Cameron told us we would Too many things have happened for this not to have been planned. I called it on General Election night. Where's my prize?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 20:49:09 GMT
I don't think he will too many back stabbing tossers for him to win look at the last one. Gove?? remember that, really was bad
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