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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 20, 2019 12:54:31 GMT
He can fuck off as well, Charlie Alan Brazil Adam.
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Post by spitthedog on May 20, 2019 13:11:49 GMT
He can fuck off as well, Charlie Alan Brazil Adam. He's not going to move to Man Utd on the back of Charlie Adam tweets. It's pretty obvious he's got the potential.
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Post by nott1 on May 20, 2019 13:15:49 GMT
I was thinking Collins would never get a game at such a big club but I wouldn't want any of their CB's in our team so he'll be staight in!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 20, 2019 13:21:06 GMT
If we sell him to the most desperate club in the world , for less than £10m we are actually worse commercially than even I imagined .
Ole what about Collins
stoke. Nice player , not for sale
Ole How about £5m
Stoke you’ve insulted me now , the cunt Fletcher just cost you £3m add on £2m for Neville and red face laughing and cheating here , £1m for Rooney’s elbow , 2m for attacking wheel chair supporters and £2m for being the shit Well have him back in a years loan and it’s all cash up front , sorry lines a bit busy as pep is trying to get through did you say 15m baby face or was that goodbye
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Post by humbersidepotter on May 20, 2019 13:26:39 GMT
If we sell him to the most desperate club in the world , for less than £10m we are actually worse commercially than even I imagined . Ole what about Collins stoke. Nice player , not for sale Ole How about £5m Stoke you’ve insulted me now , the cunt Fletcher just cost you £3m add on £2m for Neville and red face laughing and cheating here , £1m for Rooney’s elbow , 2m for attacking wheel chair supporters and £2m for being the shit Well have him back in a years loan and it’s all cash up front , sorry lines a bit busy as pep is trying to get through did you say 15m baby face or was that goodbye You really are damaged aren't you?
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 20, 2019 14:38:43 GMT
I'd be looking for an initial £10m and add-ons going much higher before engaging seriously with them. If you listen to anyone around our academy, this guy is clearly the crown jewel of the last decade, production-wise. So much so even a manager who is renowned for playing young hungry players hasn't even played him for a full 90 mins when there wasn't anything at stake in the sodding championship.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 20, 2019 14:39:06 GMT
If we sell him to the most desperate club in the world , for less than £10m we are actually worse commercially than even I imagined . Ole what about Collins stoke. Nice player , not for sale Ole How about £5m Stoke you’ve insulted me now , the cunt Fletcher just cost you £3m add on £2m for Neville and red face laughing and cheating here , £1m for Rooney’s elbow , 2m for attacking wheel chair supporters and £2m for being the shit Well have him back in a years loan and it’s all cash up front , sorry lines a bit busy as pep is trying to get through did you say 15m baby face or was that goodbye You really are damaged aren't you? I blame them for that too call it £20m but you get the drift .
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 20, 2019 15:40:05 GMT
Interesting that according to today’s release announcement fletchers contract expires formally on them 30th June , some key questions therefore might arise
1 was Fletcher actually advising Manchester United as reported in this weeks media or is that mis reporting , if he was was he doing so while under contract to stoke especiallly with regards to Collins 2 was he in breech of that contract providing advice to Manchester United if indeed he did so ( if he was and he did and it wasn’t a breach why do our contracts not provide such protection ) 3 were Manchester United encouraging / colluding an employee of another club while that employee was under contract . ( i 4 is the released announcement correct in its statement of the contract termination date
Of course this may be entirely explainable in that early release has been agreed but there would normally be contingency in any compromise to prevent damage to or actions not in the best interests of either party .if as reported Fletcher is the cause of their interest it’s only right to understand when that occurred and what was his contractual relationship if any with stoke at the time .
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 20, 2019 15:44:21 GMT
People moaning about 5m, it wouldn't be the first time we've had a high potential player that hasn't hit the levels expected. N'goy an Cuvelier to name just a few. Considering Matt Clarke would cost us about 5m, and he's more proven... I don't think 5m with add ons and a sell on clause is the worst case scenario. I'd rather keep him, but it's not the end of the world. Contract permitting we may as well keep him for 5 mil, we aren't desperate to sell and he won't be on big money, get him involved in the first team and go from there if he develops we get a good player and a bigger future fee if he develops enough to still interest the bigger clubs.
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Post by themistocles on May 20, 2019 15:44:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 17:54:19 GMT
Just watching North West news. Manchester IS BLUE! Looks very good! Does not appear to be red shirt in sight. A joy to behold!
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 18:32:05 GMT
People moaning about 5m, it wouldn't be the first time we've had a high potential player that hasn't hit the levels expected. N'goy an Cuvelier to name just a few. Considering Matt Clarke would cost us about 5m, and he's more proven... I don't think 5m with add ons and a sell on clause is the worst case scenario. I'd rather keep him, but it's not the end of the world. Contract permitting we may as well keep him for 5 mil, we aren't desperate to sell and he won't be on big money, get him involved in the first team and go from there if he develops we get a good player and a bigger future fee if he develops enough to still interest the bigger clubs. Fucking. Absolutely. This.
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Post by followyoudown on May 20, 2019 19:44:30 GMT
Interesting that according to today’s release announcement fletchers contract expires formally on them 30th June , some key questions therefore might arise 1 was Fletcher actually advising Manchester United as reported in this weeks media or is that mis reporting , if he was was he doing so while under contract to stoke especiallly with regards to Collins 2 was he in breech of that contract providing advice to Manchester United if indeed he did so ( if he was and he did and it wasn’t a breach why do our contracts not provide such protection ) 3 were Manchester United encouraging / colluding an employee of another club while that employee was under contract . ( i 4 is the released announcement correct in its statement of the contract termination date Of course this may be entirely explainable in that early release has been agreed but there would normally be contingency in any compromise to prevent damage to or actions not in the best interests of either party .if as reported Fletcher is the cause of their interest it’s only right to understand when that occurred and what was his contractual relationship if any with stoke at the time . I'm sorry but that is just rubbish, these clubs scouting networks are so huge they know about talented 8 and 9 year old kids the idea they wouldn't be aware of irelands u-19 captain is for the fairies.
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Post by werrington on May 20, 2019 19:51:40 GMT
Interesting that according to today’s release announcement fletchers contract expires formally on them 30th June , some key questions therefore might arise 1 was Fletcher actually advising Manchester United as reported in this weeks media or is that mis reporting , if he was was he doing so while under contract to stoke especiallly with regards to Collins 2 was he in breech of that contract providing advice to Manchester United if indeed he did so ( if he was and he did and it wasn’t a breach why do our contracts not provide such protection ) 3 were Manchester United encouraging / colluding an employee of another club while that employee was under contract . ( i 4 is the released announcement correct in its statement of the contract termination date Of course this may be entirely explainable in that early release has been agreed but there would normally be contingency in any compromise to prevent damage to or actions not in the best interests of either party .if as reported Fletcher is the cause of their interest it’s only right to understand when that occurred and what was his contractual relationship if any with stoke at the time . I'm sorry but that is just rubbish, these clubs scouting networks are so huge they know about talented 8 and 9 year old kids the idea they wouldn't be aware of irelands u-19 captain is for the fairies. And they wouldn’t sign somebody on the word of one person Make no mistake they will of watched him on a regular basis
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Post by stokeykez on May 20, 2019 19:52:54 GMT
Tell utd to do one. 20 million no less and with a season long loan back to us if they do persist.
They paid 57 for martial and he was untested at that age who was world class potential, when you think Maguire's is valued at 90mill, we need to hold the cards on this one.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 20, 2019 19:55:27 GMT
Interesting that according to today’s release announcement fletchers contract expires formally on them 30th June , some key questions therefore might arise 1 was Fletcher actually advising Manchester United as reported in this weeks media or is that mis reporting , if he was was he doing so while under contract to stoke especiallly with regards to Collins 2 was he in breech of that contract providing advice to Manchester United if indeed he did so ( if he was and he did and it wasn’t a breach why do our contracts not provide such protection ) 3 were Manchester United encouraging / colluding an employee of another club while that employee was under contract . ( i 4 is the released announcement correct in its statement of the contract termination date Of course this may be entirely explainable in that early release has been agreed but there would normally be contingency in any compromise to prevent damage to or actions not in the best interests of either party .if as reported Fletcher is the cause of their interest it’s only right to understand when that occurred and what was his contractual relationship if any with stoke at the time . I'm sorry but that is just rubbish, these clubs scouting networks are so huge they know about talented 8 and 9 year old kids the idea they wouldn't be aware of irelands u-19 captain is for the fairies. True of course but the story was clear in saying fletcher recommended Collins , So your saying the newspapers printed clear untruths that fletcher advocated Collins , .You May well be correct in which case he has a genuine grievance against the papers which printed that story
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Post by scfc75 on May 20, 2019 19:56:54 GMT
I'm sorry but that is just rubbish, these clubs scouting networks are so huge they know about talented 8 and 9 year old kids the idea they wouldn't be aware of irelands u-19 captain is for the fairies. True of course but the story was clear in saying fletcher recommended Collins , So your saying the newspapers printed clear untruths that fletcher advocated Collins , .You May well be correct in which case he has a genuine grievance against the papers which printed that story The papers never lie Benj
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 20, 2019 20:02:08 GMT
True of course but the story was clear in saying fletcher recommended Collins , So your saying the newspapers printed clear untruths that fletcher advocated Collins , .You May well be correct in which case he has a genuine grievance against the papers which printed that story The papers never lie Benj I understand that but either 1 The journalist was incorrect in printing the story that fletcher recommended Collins 2 fletcher did recommend Colin’s stoke have every right to know which and if it’s the latter when did that happen and what was his contractual status with stoke at the time .if it’s the former The journalist should issue an apology to fletcher
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Post by dreamtheater on May 20, 2019 20:07:57 GMT
I notice the media has now taken a very arrogant view toward this topic e.g. along the lines of: whats in the metro later on today saying in effect that: its efectively a done deal if, United want him in effect, portraying the sheer arrogance so many people despise them for. Couple that with Chelsea looking to poach two younger players too . After so much investment and now finally after some years, indications that our acadamy is starting to attract and bring on young players. One again must wonder .....what is the bloody point.?
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Post by kelw on May 20, 2019 20:22:09 GMT
Is speculation and people moaning about a transfer fee that hasn't happened yet
Fact is if they do want him would be pretty hard to say no...surely most players in our league wouldn't turn down the chance to go there. Not arrogance on the media's front for me, is more reality
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Post by Goonie on May 20, 2019 20:25:06 GMT
If we sell him to the most desperate club in the world , for less than £10m we are actually worse commercially than even I imagined . Ole what about Collins stoke. Nice player , not for sale Ole How about £5m Stoke you’ve insulted me now , the cunt Fletcher just cost you £3m add on £2m for Neville and red face laughing and cheating here , £1m for Rooney’s elbow , 2m for attacking wheel chair supporters and £2m for being the shit Well have him back in a years loan and it’s all cash up front , sorry lines a bit busy as pep is trying to get through did you say 15m baby face or was that goodbye If Carlsberg did negotiations 😁
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Post by followyoudown on May 20, 2019 22:19:22 GMT
I'm sorry but that is just rubbish, these clubs scouting networks are so huge they know about talented 8 and 9 year old kids the idea they wouldn't be aware of irelands u-19 captain is for the fairies. True of course but the story was clear in saying fletcher recommended Collins , So your saying the newspapers printed clear untruths that fletcher advocated Collins , .You May well be correct in which case he has a genuine grievance against the papers which printed that story I am saying if I was to phone up Pep and tell him there is a little Argentian lad at Barcelona they should sign, I could say I recommended Messi to Man City and it would be true however I think they might just be already aware of him, same applies to Collins but obviously at a lower level.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 20, 2019 22:31:29 GMT
I'd be looking for an initial £10m and add-ons going much higher before engaging seriously with them. If you listen to anyone around our academy, this guy is clearly the crown jewel of the last decade, production-wise. So much so even a manager who is renowned for playing young hungry players hasn't even played him for a full 90 mins when there wasn't anything at stake in the sodding championship. That manager has shown he’s a bit of a clueless idiot though.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 22:33:06 GMT
So much so even a manager who is renowned for playing young hungry players hasn't even played him for a full 90 mins when there wasn't anything at stake in the sodding championship. That manager has shown he’s a bit of a clueless idiot though. Guess who's back.....back again
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Post by mickstupp on May 20, 2019 22:39:30 GMT
So much so even a manager who is renowned for playing young hungry players hasn't even played him for a full 90 mins when there wasn't anything at stake in the sodding championship. That manager has shown he’s a bit of a clueless idiot though. Oh FFS 😩 😉😉
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 20, 2019 22:45:09 GMT
That manager has shown he’s a bit of a clueless idiot though. Oh FFS 🤷♂️ 😉😉 He’s been shite. Using a decision made by a bloke who has so far only been slightly better than our second worst manager ever (Lambert) is no argument. As is this bollocks that he didn’t play him to hide him. What rot. We play Man Yoo, Man City, Liverpool and Everton regularly at 18 and 23 level. They will know about him. He didn’t play him because he’s scared of his own shadow. Which is quite odd given he did give him a chance. Same with Verlinden though. He shit his pants. Jones needs to work but there’s zero evidence to suggest he will. We’ve just got to hope he’s not as shit as he’s shown so far. Or else we’re fucked really. And no one wants that.
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Post by mickstupp on May 20, 2019 22:47:23 GMT
He’s been shite. Using a decision made by a bloke who has so far only been slightly better than our second worst manager ever (Lambert) is no argument. As is this bollocks that he didn’t play him to hide him. What rot. We play Man Yoo, Man City, Liverpool and Everton regularly at 18 and 23 level. They will know about him. He didn’t play him because he’s scared of his own shadow. Which is quite odd given he did give him a chance. Same with Verlinden though. He shit his pants. Jones needs to work but there’s zero evidence to suggest he will. We’ve just got to hope he’s not as shit as he’s shown so far. Or else we’re fucked really. And no one wants that. Who was our worst manager ever?
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Post by enuntio on May 20, 2019 23:09:09 GMT
He’s been shite. Using a decision made by a bloke who has so far only been slightly better than our second worst manager ever (Lambert) is no argument. As is this bollocks that he didn’t play him to hide him. What rot. We play Man Yoo, Man City, Liverpool and Everton regularly at 18 and 23 level. They will know about him. He didn’t play him because he’s scared of his own shadow. Which is quite odd given he did give him a chance. Same with Verlinden though. He shit his pants. Jones needs to work but there’s zero evidence to suggest he will. We’ve just got to hope he’s not as shit as he’s shown so far. Or else we’re fucked really. And no one wants that. Who was our worst manager ever? Alan ... Most definitely Alan ...
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Post by PotterLog on May 21, 2019 0:15:13 GMT
Who was our worst manager ever? Alan ... Most definitely Alan ... Chris
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 21, 2019 0:39:14 GMT
He’s been shite. Using a decision made by a bloke who has so far only been slightly better than our second worst manager ever (Lambert) is no argument. As is this bollocks that he didn’t play him to hide him. What rot. We play Man Yoo, Man City, Liverpool and Everton regularly at 18 and 23 level. They will know about him. He didn’t play him because he’s scared of his own shadow. Which is quite odd given he did give him a chance. Same with Verlinden though. He shit his pants. Jones needs to work but there’s zero evidence to suggest he will. We’ve just got to hope he’s not as shit as he’s shown so far. Or else we’re fucked really. And no one wants that. Welcome home! 😁
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