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Post by harryburrows on Jul 23, 2019 16:23:01 GMT
Whoever thought that teaching 5 year olds this stuff was a good idea ? Can't stand this type of political corrrectness . I. Wouldn't want my 7 year olds anywhere near this
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 23, 2019 16:43:50 GMT
It’s noticeable that the LGBT etc etc community are happy to turn up to Pride events, but are nowhere near this. Too chicken to stand up for their rights?
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Post by eebygum on Jul 23, 2019 16:49:37 GMT
Ah think t' state should decide wha' is taught i' schools generally, bur otha than 'a' ah ten' ta agree wi' thy points. naw gi'o'a actin li' these goblins whoa preten' thee can't understan' wha' assez.
Surely tha name shud be ebagum? 😋
Ah dooant suppose theur av much experience challengin yorkshiremen, wiz. while it's commendable thars noticed t' mugabe parallels, theur should kna betta than tellin eur Tyke 'a' 'e's spelt 'is nem rong!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 16:53:06 GMT
Whoever thought that teaching 5 year olds this stuff was a good idea ? Can't stand this type of political corrrectness . I. Wouldn't want my 7 year olds anywhere near this They get taught about heterosexual relationships so what is the issue with teaching that same-sex relationships are okay too?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 16:53:56 GMT
It’s noticeable that the LGBT etc etc community are happy to turn up to Pride events, but are nowhere near this. Too chicken to stand up for their rights? There were some in Nottingham mate. And their kids attended the school. Unlike the protesters, who seem to come from. Outside the area. This has nothing to do with LGBT rights anyway It's about who decides what's in the curriculum. And more importantly that some people are putting their religious beliefs before everything else. Like we used to do in Britain before The Enlightenment in the 16/17th Century. find me a primary school in the UK that doesn't sing hymns to god and pray in assemblies.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 23, 2019 16:55:49 GMT
There were some in Nottingham mate. And their kids attended the school. Unlike the protesters, who seem to come from. Outside the area. This has nothing to do with LGBT rights anyway It's about who decides what's in the curriculum. And more importantly that some people are putting their religious beliefs before everything else. Like we used to do in Britain before The Enlightenment in the 16/17th Century. find me a primary school in the UK that doesn't sing hymns to god and pray in assemblies. And show me a primary school in the UK where parents stand outside the school protesting about it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 16:57:23 GMT
find me a primary school in the UK that doesn't sing hymns to god and pray in assemblies. And show me a primary school in the UK where parents stand outside the school protesting about it? Oh I know, I disagree with the protesters hugely, but this is very much turning into a 'look how bad Islam is and how enlightened us British are' argument, which is bollocks.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 23, 2019 17:08:51 GMT
And show me a primary school in the UK where parents stand outside the school protesting about it? Oh I know, I disagree with the protesters hugely, but this is very much turning into a 'look how bad Islam is and how enlightened us British are' argument, which is bollocks. Fair point.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jul 23, 2019 17:17:42 GMT
And show me a primary school in the UK where parents stand outside the school protesting about it? Oh I know, I disagree with the protesters hugely, but this is very much turning into a 'look how bad Islam is and how enlightened us British are' argument, which is bollocks. I think in fairness we can be very proud as a nation with how far Britain has come in the field of gay rights in a relatively very short space of time. There's still work to do but it's a genuinely great national achievement which we can and should be proud of. And no one - Muslims, Christians or bigots of any other stripe - should be allowed to regress things.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 17:41:31 GMT
Oh I know, I disagree with the protesters hugely, but this is very much turning into a 'look how bad Islam is and how enlightened us British are' argument, which is bollocks. I think in fairness we can be very proud as a nation with how far Britain has come in the field of gay rights in a relatively very short space of time. There's still work to do but it's a genuinely great national achievement which we can and should be proud of. And no one - Muslims, Christians or bigots of any other stripe - should be allowed to regress things. Yep, agreed. But notice that all of this thread is slamming muslims and Islam in general. Not the one small, minority group that are being idiots. When you see someone saying 'religion of peace eh!?' you know pretty well there's some bigotry going on.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jul 23, 2019 17:54:34 GMT
I think in fairness we can be very proud as a nation with how far Britain has come in the field of gay rights in a relatively very short space of time. There's still work to do but it's a genuinely great national achievement which we can and should be proud of. And no one - Muslims, Christians or bigots of any other stripe - should be allowed to regress things. Yep, agreed. But notice that all of this thread is slamming muslims and Islam in general. Not the one small, minority group that are being idiots. When you see someone saying 'religion of peace eh!?' you know pretty well there's some bigotry going on. I'm not going to haul up anyone on this thread but I agree there's something very unseemly about alt right types on the internet wringing their hands about the rights of gay people or Jewish people when they're transparently only doing it to attack Muslim people as a whole. Katie Hopkins is a good example of this. If there were no Muslims outside those schools, I'd bet money she'd be defending the rights of the outraged parents to be as anti- gay as they wanted.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 23, 2019 17:55:12 GMT
Whoever thought that teaching 5 year olds this stuff was a good idea ? Can't stand this type of political corrrectness . I. Wouldn't want my 7 year olds anywhere near this They get taught about heterosexual relationships so what is the issue with teaching that same-sex relationships are okay too? The issue is age of course . This should be left to year 6 or 7 .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 18:03:28 GMT
They get taught about heterosexual relationships so what is the issue with teaching that same-sex relationships are okay too? The issue is age of course . This should be left to year 6 or 7 . Kids see heterosexual relationships from the moment they are born, they permeate TV, adverts, music, everything. There is no reason why we shouldn't teach them about same-sex relationships too. People seem to think they're teaching them about rimming or something, they're teaching age-appropriate equality of sexuality in relationships.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jul 23, 2019 18:07:08 GMT
The issue is age of course . This should be left to year 6 or 7 . People seem to think they're teaching them about rimming or something ... Teaching minors about enjoying the football of Tony Pulis would be abhorrent, ungodly and I'd stand outside any school anywhere in the land to protest it
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Post by kelw on Jul 23, 2019 18:07:47 GMT
It’s noticeable that the LGBT etc etc community are happy to turn up to Pride events, but are nowhere near this. Too chicken to stand up for their rights? Shhhh
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Post by Boothen on Jul 23, 2019 18:13:00 GMT
The issue is age of course . This should be left to year 6 or 7 . Kids see heterosexual relationships from the moment they are born, they permeate TV, adverts, music, everything. There is no reason why we shouldn't teach them about same-sex relationships too. People seem to think they're teaching them about rimming or something, they're teaching age-appropriate equality of sexuality in relationships. I was at school in the 70s/80s and we were never taught about same-sex relationships at school, and yet we somehow manage to get on with life and not give a toss where someone wants to stick their dick or if some woman prefers the hairy clam. I even have multiple gay friends who all think that the over-campness and constant 'in your face' rainbow shit (not to be confused with the sex act ) is doing more of a disservice than it is good.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 23, 2019 18:21:02 GMT
The issue is age of course . This should be left to year 6 or 7 . Kids see heterosexual relationships from the moment they are born, they permeate TV, adverts, music, everything. There is no reason why we shouldn't teach them about same-sex relationships too. People seem to think they're teaching them about rimming or something, they're teaching age-appropriate equality of sexuality in relationships. That's just bullshit , concentrate on the basic national curriculum. And stop trying to justify teaching 5 year old infants about equality of sexuality . Teach it to them when they are mature enough to understand
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 23, 2019 18:29:25 GMT
Kids see heterosexual relationships from the moment they are born, they permeate TV, adverts, music, everything. There is no reason why we shouldn't teach them about same-sex relationships too. People seem to think they're teaching them about rimming or something, they're teaching age-appropriate equality of sexuality in relationships. That's just bullshit , concentrate on the basic national curriculum. And stop trying to justify teaching 5 year old infants about equality of sexuality . Teach it to them when they are mature enough to understand In some people's cases they'd have passed away by then.
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Post by eebygum on Jul 23, 2019 18:39:04 GMT
The issue is age of course . This should be left to year 6 or 7 . Kids see heterosexual relationships from the moment they are born, they permeate TV, adverts, music, everything. There is no reason why we shouldn't teach them about same-sex relationships too. People seem to think they're teaching them about rimming or something, they're teaching age-appropriate equality of sexuality in relationships. Wheear can ah learn abaht rimmin?
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 23, 2019 18:43:27 GMT
That's just bullshit , concentrate on the basic national curriculum. And stop trying to justify teaching 5 year old infants about equality of sexuality . Teach it to them when they are mature enough to understand In some people's cases they'd have passed away by then. I think it's a shame the protesters are Muslim because it seems to have devalued the argument in some people's minds . It's not a religious issue . 5 year olds should be learning about peppa pig 🐷 not crap like this
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 23, 2019 18:51:09 GMT
In some people's cases they'd have passed away by then. I think it's a shame the protesters are Muslim because it seems to have devalued the argument in some people's minds . It's not a religious issue . 5 year olds should be learning about peppa pig 🐷 not crap like this Children that age should not be indoctrinated with this sort of thing. Far too young. At that age I wouldn't have understood it anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 18:56:34 GMT
Kids see heterosexual relationships from the moment they are born, they permeate TV, adverts, music, everything. There is no reason why we shouldn't teach them about same-sex relationships too. People seem to think they're teaching them about rimming or something, they're teaching age-appropriate equality of sexuality in relationships. That's just bullshit , concentrate on the basic national curriculum. And stop trying to justify teaching 5 year old infants about equality of sexuality . Teach it to them when they are mature enough to understand Totally agree Harry and if I catch him using the word “rimming” again I’ll stop him partying at funny girls
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 23, 2019 19:16:10 GMT
That's just bullshit , concentrate on the basic national curriculum. And stop trying to justify teaching 5 year old infants about equality of sexuality . Teach it to them when they are mature enough to understand Totally agree Harry and if I catch him using the word “rimming” again I’ll stop him partying at funny girls You need to keep him under control mate , else salop will start another I hate teachers thread
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Post by thevoid on Jul 23, 2019 19:36:29 GMT
I think in fairness we can be very proud as a nation with how far Britain has come in the field of gay rights in a relatively very short space of time. There's still work to do but it's a genuinely great national achievement which we can and should be proud of. And no one - Muslims, Christians or bigots of any other stripe - should be allowed to regress things. Yep, agreed. But notice that all of this thread is slamming muslims and Islam in general. Not the one small, minority group that are being idiots. When you see someone saying 'religion of peace eh!?' you know pretty well there's some bigotry going on. I think most people are just intrigued as to why there's no presence by the LGBT community, and the left in general? I mean, surely making a stand here is going to do more for LGBT rights than sticking a rainbow flag on your social media profile, or on a corner flag at a football match- maybe virtue signalling becomes a ball-ache when you need to actually get off your butt and do something?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 23, 2019 20:03:40 GMT
Yep, agreed. But notice that all of this thread is slamming muslims and Islam in general. Not the one small, minority group that are being idiots. When you see someone saying 'religion of peace eh!?' you know pretty well there's some bigotry going on. I think most people are just intrigued as to why there's no presence by the LGBT community, and the left in general? I mean, surely making a stand here is going to do more for LGBT rights than sticking a rainbow filter on your social media profile, or on a corner flag at a football match- maybe virtue signalling becomes a ball-ache when you need to actually get off your butt and do something? Great point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 10:16:09 GMT
Kids see heterosexual relationships from the moment they are born, they permeate TV, adverts, music, everything. There is no reason why we shouldn't teach them about same-sex relationships too. People seem to think they're teaching them about rimming or something, they're teaching age-appropriate equality of sexuality in relationships. That's just bullshit , concentrate on the basic national curriculum. And stop trying to justify teaching 5 year old infants about equality of sexuality . Teach it to them when they are mature enough to understand why? Why not teach that having 2 dads or 2 mums is fine? Kids pick up on this stuff. I don't see what the problem is here, I'm justifying it because teaching tolerance early in life makes people more tolerant later in life. they are mature enough to understand that dads love mums, so why not that dads can love dads and mums can love mums?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 10:17:39 GMT
Yep, agreed. But notice that all of this thread is slamming muslims and Islam in general. Not the one small, minority group that are being idiots. When you see someone saying 'religion of peace eh!?' you know pretty well there's some bigotry going on. I think most people are just intrigued as to why there's no presence by the LGBT community, and the left in general? I mean, surely making a stand here is going to do more for LGBT rights than sticking a rainbow flag on your social media profile, or on a corner flag at a football match- maybe virtue signalling becomes a ball-ache when you need to actually get off your butt and do something? Oh agreed, a lot of people are more words than actions, hence why I bloody love people like extinction rebellion!
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Post by musik on Jul 24, 2019 10:27:55 GMT
Angry protests continue over Birmingham school's 'okay to be gay' lessons. Excuse me, a question from a neutral country: What does "okay" mean in this context?
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Post by foster on Jul 24, 2019 11:02:51 GMT
That's just bullshit , concentrate on the basic national curriculum. And stop trying to justify teaching 5 year old infants about equality of sexuality . Teach it to them when they are mature enough to understand why? Why not teach that having 2 dads or 2 mums is fine? Kids pick up on this stuff. I don't see what the problem is here, I'm justifying it because teaching tolerance early in life makes people more tolerant later in life. they are mature enough to understand that dads love mums, so why not that dads can love dads and mums can love mums? I think people are taught more how to be intolerant rather than tolerant. I'm tolerant of everyone but I was never taught it. As for my personal opinion on the protests, I don't believe anything sexual or related to sexuality needs to be taught at Primary schools.
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Post by eebygum on Jul 24, 2019 11:13:50 GMT
Yep, agreed. But notice that all of this thread is slamming muslims and Islam in general. Not the one small, minority group that are being idiots. When you see someone saying 'religion of peace eh!?' you know pretty well there's some bigotry going on. I think most people are just intrigued as to why there's no presence by the LGBT community, and the left in general? I mean, surely making a stand here is going to do more for LGBT rights than sticking a rainbow flag on your social media profile, or on a corner flag at a football match- maybe virtue signalling becomes a ball-ache when you need to actually get off your butt and do something? Dick noggin.
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