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Post by zerps on May 7, 2019 6:00:02 GMT
How the fuck he managed to be a pro footballer for this long is a miracle. He’s like the fat bloke that’s always on the bench and only brought on when someone’s injured on a Sunday morning. Smoking a fag and sobering up on the touch line.
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Post by nott1 on May 7, 2019 6:04:58 GMT
How the fuck he managed to be a pro footballer for this long is a miracle. He’s like the fat bloke that’s always on the bench and only brought on when someone’s injured on a Sunday morning. Smoking a fag and sobering up on the touch line. Much fitter than you too, I'd imagine.
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Post by zerps on May 7, 2019 6:07:24 GMT
How the fuck he managed to be a pro footballer for this long is a miracle. He’s like the fat bloke that’s always on the bench and only brought on when someone’s injured on a Sunday morning. Smoking a fag and sobering up on the touch line. Much fitter than you too, I'd imagine. Can you tell that on an anonymous message board? Fucking weird thing to say 😆
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Post by nott1 on May 7, 2019 6:10:15 GMT
Much fitter than you too, I'd imagine. Can you tell that on an anonymous message board? Fucking weird thing to say 😆 Are you fitter than a pro footballer who trains most days? If not why say such tripe!
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Post by zerps on May 7, 2019 6:21:29 GMT
Can you tell that on an anonymous message board? Fucking weird thing to say 😆 Are you fitter than a pro footballer who trains most days? If not why say such tripe! If i was paid to be a professional athlete and that was my job I’d be far fitter than charlie adam. As it stands I go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week but my job gets in the way. I hope that helps you understand how much of a disgrace his fitness is. He has nothing else to do apart from be a full time athlete.
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Post by nott1 on May 7, 2019 6:30:08 GMT
Are you fitter than a pro footballer who trains most days? If not why say such tripe! If i was paid to be a professional athlete and that was my job I’d be far fitter than charlie adam. As it stands I go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week but my job gets in the way. I hope that helps you understand how much of a disgrace his fitness is. He has nothing else to do apart from be a full time athlete. I went to the gym for a while but it's mind numbingly boring, don't know how anyone keeps it going.
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Post by zerps on May 7, 2019 6:31:00 GMT
If i was paid to be a professional athlete and that was my job I’d be far fitter than charlie adam. As it stands I go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week but my job gets in the way. I hope that helps you understand how much of a disgrace his fitness is. He has nothing else to do apart from be a full time athlete. I went to the gym for a while but it's mind numbingly boring, don't know how anyone keeps it going. Would you go if it was your job to be an athlete?
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Post by nott1 on May 7, 2019 6:41:24 GMT
I went to the gym for a while but it's mind numbingly boring, don't know how anyone keeps it going. Would you go if it was your job to be an athlete? Possibly, but I doubt a footballer really needs to as I don't see how it improves ball skills or speed.
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Post by zerps on May 7, 2019 6:44:53 GMT
Would you go if it was your job to be an athlete? Possibly, but I doubt a footballer really needs to as I don't see how it improves ball skills or speed. Being fit isn’t a requirement? Ok mate.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on May 7, 2019 9:03:50 GMT
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Post by Squeekster on May 7, 2019 9:14:32 GMT
If i was paid to be a professional athlete and that was my job I’d be far fitter than charlie adam. As it stands I go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week but my job gets in the way. I hope that helps you understand how much of a disgrace his fitness is. He has nothing else to do apart from be a full time athlete. I went to the gym for a while but it's mind numbingly boring, don't know how anyone keeps it going. Why do people always say footballers are athletes? Yes the modern day footballer tents to have an athletic posture but one of our best strikers in Harry Kane could not be called an athlete.
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Post by zerps on May 7, 2019 9:24:41 GMT
I went to the gym for a while but it's mind numbingly boring, don't know how anyone keeps it going. Why do people always say footballers are athletes? Yes the modern day footballer tents to have an athletic posture but one of our best strikers in Harry Kane could not be called an athlete. Footballers aren’t professional athletes? Are you sure?
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Post by nott1 on May 7, 2019 9:55:14 GMT
Possibly, but I doubt a footballer really needs to as I don't see how it improves ball skills or speed. Being fit isn’t a requirement? Ok mate. It is, but there are other ways to get fit!
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Post by metalhead on May 7, 2019 10:02:55 GMT
How the fuck he managed to be a pro footballer for this long is a miracle. He’s like the fat bloke that’s always on the bench and only brought on when someone’s injured on a Sunday morning. Smoking a fag and sobering up on the touch line. Much fitter than you too, I'd imagine. Maybe, but I'll happily go out and chance my arm with this one. I've said before on here I reckon I could have him in a bleep test and I still do. Now I have one or two advantages, in that I'm 28, not 33 etc.... however my only pedigree when it comes to running is that I do a bit in my spare time. My issue with that, is the final point of that sentence: Spare time...... Charlie Adam is a paid 'athlete' as such..... there is no way that he should be in the condition he is in. There is something fundamentally wrong about either his training regime, diet, or conditioning in general. Adam was in an acceptable shape when he arrived at Stoke, yet after his second season, he seemed to fall off the wagon big style. He has never been in an acceptable shape since and at some points, his weight has been embarrassing. Sunday was somewhere in-between. Not huge but not thin either. He is a paid sportsman and quite frankly, he has pissed a good career away by not actually trying to get on top of his weight problems. Still, I wish him all the best and hope he finds a club to have one last hurrah.
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Post by zerps on May 7, 2019 10:18:36 GMT
Much fitter than you too, I'd imagine. Maybe, but I'll happily go out and chance my arm with this one. I've said before on here I reckon I could have him in a bleep test and I still do. Now I have one or two advantages, in that I'm 28, not 33 etc.... however my only pedigree when it comes to running is that I do a bit in my spare time. My issue with that, is the final point of that sentence: Spare time...... Charlie Adam is a paid 'athlete' as such..... there is no way that he should be in the condition he is in. There is something fundamentally wrong about either his training regime, diet, or conditioning in general. Adam was in an acceptable shape when he arrived at Stoke, yet after his second season, he seemed to fall off the wagon big style. He has never been in an acceptable shape since and at some points, his weight has been embarrassing. Sunday was somewhere in-between. Not huge but not thin either. He is a paid sportsman and quite frankly, he has pissed a good career away by not actually trying to get on top of his weight problems. Still, I wish him all the best and hope he finds a club to have one last hurrah. He’s another waster. If he can’t get in shape to play football as a professional he should have been sacked. We’ve got massive problems at this club. Players not being arsed to keep fit is pathetic and it shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s their job to keep fit.
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Post by Scouse on May 7, 2019 10:27:35 GMT
Perhaps just perhaps Charlie has made the best of what nature handed him shape and metabolism wise even given the science of modern training
Fitness is an important factor , but so too is the ability to play and read the game
I much prefer my footballers first and foremost to be natural footballers.. rather than what the sport is turning into , failed sprinters / middle weights being taught some rudimental football skills
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Post by metalhead on May 7, 2019 10:27:43 GMT
Maybe, but I'll happily go out and chance my arm with this one. I've said before on here I reckon I could have him in a bleep test and I still do. Now I have one or two advantages, in that I'm 28, not 33 etc.... however my only pedigree when it comes to running is that I do a bit in my spare time. My issue with that, is the final point of that sentence: Spare time...... Charlie Adam is a paid 'athlete' as such..... there is no way that he should be in the condition he is in. There is something fundamentally wrong about either his training regime, diet, or conditioning in general. Adam was in an acceptable shape when he arrived at Stoke, yet after his second season, he seemed to fall off the wagon big style. He has never been in an acceptable shape since and at some points, his weight has been embarrassing. Sunday was somewhere in-between. Not huge but not thin either. He is a paid sportsman and quite frankly, he has pissed a good career away by not actually trying to get on top of his weight problems. Still, I wish him all the best and hope he finds a club to have one last hurrah. He’s another waster. If he can’t get in shape to play football as a professional he should have been sacked. We’ve got massive problems at this club. Players not being arsed to keep fit is pathetic and it shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s their job to keep fit. Not that I'm yearning for the return of Tony, I think it's no surprise that Charlie's discipline deteriorated after Hughes arrived. I seem to remember Tony was quite outspoken about Adam in that first season. I wasn't actually sure while writing this post.... so decided have a quick Google: Yep. It's clear that once Tony left, Hughes gave the players more freedom and discipline went down the shitter. Adam put on weight and never really got himself into shape again. He had momentary points where he seemed to have it under control, but they were few and far between. Several other players have talked about the drop in standards after Tony left and obviously Hughes is to blame for this. I suspect Charlie was not one of those to maintain his own levels of discipline and took advantage of shit management and soft discipline.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 7, 2019 10:31:14 GMT
Maybe, but I'll happily go out and chance my arm with this one. I've said before on here I reckon I could have him in a bleep test and I still do. Now I have one or two advantages, in that I'm 28, not 33 etc.... however my only pedigree when it comes to running is that I do a bit in my spare time. My issue with that, is the final point of that sentence: Spare time...... Charlie Adam is a paid 'athlete' as such..... there is no way that he should be in the condition he is in. There is something fundamentally wrong about either his training regime, diet, or conditioning in general. Adam was in an acceptable shape when he arrived at Stoke, yet after his second season, he seemed to fall off the wagon big style. He has never been in an acceptable shape since and at some points, his weight has been embarrassing. Sunday was somewhere in-between. Not huge but not thin either. He is a paid sportsman and quite frankly, he has pissed a good career away by not actually trying to get on top of his weight problems. Still, I wish him all the best and hope he finds a club to have one last hurrah. He’s another waster. If he can’t get in shape to play football as a professional he should have been sacked. We’ve got massive problems at this club. Players not being arsed to keep fit is pathetic and it shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s their job to keep fit. Well personally I would have Charlie Adam over Bero imbulla ince bojan Afobe and a few others as every time he played he got stuck in and at least seemed to give a damm
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Post by zerps on May 7, 2019 10:48:38 GMT
He’s another waster. If he can’t get in shape to play football as a professional he should have been sacked. We’ve got massive problems at this club. Players not being arsed to keep fit is pathetic and it shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s their job to keep fit. Well personally I would have Charlie Adam over Bero imbulla ince bojan Afobe and a few others as every time he played he got stuck in and at least seemed to give a damm But he’s not capable of being a regular player because he’s not fit enough. I agree if he was he’d be our best midfielder. It’s tragic.
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Post by zerps on May 7, 2019 10:50:55 GMT
Minimum requirement isn’t maximum effort it’s minimum pies.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 7, 2019 10:51:10 GMT
Well personally I would have Charlie Adam over Bero imbulla ince bojan Afobe and a few others as every time he played he got stuck in and at least seemed to give a damm But he’s not capable of being a regular player because he’s not fit enough. I agree if he was he’d be our best midfielder. It’s tragic. The real shame is he was born forty years to late in the seventies he’d of been up there with the best week in week out
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Post by metalhead on May 7, 2019 11:11:34 GMT
Perhaps just perhaps Charlie has made the best of what nature handed him shape and metabolism wise even given the science of modern training Fitness is an important factor , but so too is the ability to play and read the game I much prefer my footballers first and foremost natural footballers f.. rather than what the sport is turning into , failed sprinters / middle weights being taught some rudimental football skills I'm sorry but that is nonsense. There are photos of 23 year old Charlie Adam looking very trim. He was 26 when we signed him and by 28 was a fat slob.
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Post by metalhead on May 7, 2019 11:13:24 GMT
He’s another waster. If he can’t get in shape to play football as a professional he should have been sacked. We’ve got massive problems at this club. Players not being arsed to keep fit is pathetic and it shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s their job to keep fit. Well personally I would have Charlie Adam over Bero imbulla ince bojan Afobe and a few others as every time he played he got stuck in and at least seemed to give a damm Are you saying Bojan doesn't give a damn? I think that's pretty harsh. The lad seems desperate to impress and for whatever reason, it's not happened since his injury. The rest? Fair do. Although it's worth noting that Bera was good value this season until the drink driving thing. He played pretty well, just didn't chalk up enough goals.... None of our strikers have scored enough.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 7, 2019 11:50:56 GMT
Well personally I would have Charlie Adam over Bero imbulla ince bojan Afobe and a few others as every time he played he got stuck in and at least seemed to give a damm Are you saying Bojan doesn't give a damn? I think that's pretty harsh. The lad seems desperate to impress and for whatever reason, it's not happened since his injury. The rest? Fair do. Although it's worth noting that Bera was good value this season until the drink driving thing. He played pretty well, just didn't chalk up enough goals.... None of our strikers have scored enough. No I’m not saying bojan doesn’t give a damm to my opinion he simply doesn’t get stuck in and spends vast periods as a passenger it’s just not what you do with the ball now it’s what you do when you haven’t got the ball in the modern game
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Post by lordb on May 7, 2019 11:54:33 GMT
Are you saying Bojan doesn't give a damn? I think that's pretty harsh. The lad seems desperate to impress and for whatever reason, it's not happened since his injury. The rest? Fair do. Although it's worth noting that Bera was good value this season until the drink driving thing. He played pretty well, just didn't chalk up enough goals.... None of our strikers have scored enough. No I’m not saying bojan doesn’t give a damm to my opinion he simply doesn’t get stuck in and spends vast periods as a passenger it’s just not what you do with the ball now it’s what you do when you haven’t got the ball in the modern game what Bojan does without the ball is find space/make himself available for the man on the ball
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Post by zerps on May 7, 2019 12:01:18 GMT
Can we merge every thread into one because they’re all about bojan.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 7, 2019 12:02:03 GMT
No I’m not saying bojan doesn’t give a damm to my opinion he simply doesn’t get stuck in and spends vast periods as a passenger it’s just not what you do with the ball now it’s what you do when you haven’t got the ball in the modern game what Bojan does without the ball is find space/make himself available for the man on the ball Which ten years ago would of been fine Now front players have to press the opposition when they have the ball and help regain possession something bojan is or seems unable to do
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Post by madeleystokie on May 7, 2019 12:37:14 GMT
How the fuck he managed to be a pro footballer for this long is a miracle. He’s like the fat bloke that’s always on the bench and only brought on when someone’s injured on a Sunday morning. Smoking a fag and sobering up on the touch line. Gareth, is that you?
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Post by Squeekster on May 7, 2019 13:21:28 GMT
Why do people always say footballers are athletes? Yes the modern day footballer tents to have an athletic posture but one of our best strikers in Harry Kane could not be called an athlete. Footballers aren’t professional athletes? Are you sure? Usain Bolt is an athlete Harry Kane is a footballer so should Harry Kane run like Bolt then?
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Post by metalhead on May 7, 2019 13:32:58 GMT
Footballers aren’t professional athletes? Are you sure? Usain Bolt is an athlete Harry Kane is a footballer so should Harry Kane run like Bolt then? What an utterly dimwitted view. Well done. Have a cookie.
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