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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 28, 2019 20:33:13 GMT
Can't believe how awful this bloke's been for us. I too fell for the 'Championship Goal Machine' hype that's built on pretty much one season for Wolves when he netted 22 in 46. At the start of the year I thought, fuck me sideways this bloke looks useless, but convinced myself that he'd be some kind of super-poacher who'd look wank for 89 minutes but then snaffle a chance from somewhere and win us games. I started to believe the stuff about him needing service...
I don't believe that now though, because I've seen him miss chances that Martin Fucking Carruthers would have tucked away. Every single week there's one occasion when Benik awakes from his slumber to touch the ball, and each time he manages to fuck it up, whether it's running so slowly he looks like he's wading through a swimming pool of elephant shit or somehow firing wide/at the keeper when it's easier to score than it is to miss.
I posted on Twitter that he's the worst striker we've had since the one and only Vincent Pericard, but at £12m as opposed to free, he's a far worse signing than Old Periwinkle ever was. How are we going to get rid of him, and how much of that fee are we going to get back?
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Post by elystokie on Apr 28, 2019 20:41:38 GMT
I suspect there's people high up at the club asking the same questions, there is no answer, suppose we have to hope he miraculously hits some form, there's surely something in there, he got picked plenty of times for the England yoof.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 28, 2019 20:47:26 GMT
We paid £12.5m.
He's got what left on his contract? It hasn't been revealed how long he's got left, but let's assume it's 3 years.
At maybe somewhere between £20-25k-a-week?
How many Champ clubs could take that on?
Hardly any.
But what level of contract could they take on?
And would any of them think he was worth £5-6m and £12-15k-a-week?
How low would the fee actually have to be to get a deal through?
Could we actually get a bite from someone in this league if we sold him for about £6m, and used a further chunk of that to subsidise his drop in wages to a wage that's more manageable to the average Champ club?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 20:47:36 GMT
Stick two million on what we paid like wolves did and sit back for a club like us to pay it instantly.
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Apr 28, 2019 20:48:14 GMT
Worst... Pfff, short memory of Berahino then.
Afobe is close to double figures in one of the least creative teams in the country.
Put some creative pacy players around him and a full pre-season next term and watch him bag double figures without much trouble.
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Post by sportsman on Apr 28, 2019 20:50:12 GMT
Can't we put him in a man utd top and shove him up to Manchester? They could rotate him with that other bag of white, his double, lakaku. The opposition would never know.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 28, 2019 20:50:43 GMT
We paid £12.5m. He's got what left on his contract? It hasn't been revealed how long he's got left, but let's assume it's 3 years. At maybe somewhere between £20-25k-a-week? How many Champ clubs could take that on? Hardly any. But what level of contract could they take on? And would any of them think he was worth £5-6m and £12-15k-a-week? How low would the fee actually have to be to get a deal through? Could we actually get a bite from someone in this league if we sold him for about £6m, and used a further chunk of that to subsidise his drop in wages to a wage that's more manageable to the average Champ club? On a lot of threads FM you quote £20-25k for our upper tier wage earners. Is that right? Seems rather low for the championship? Or am I still fixated on prem wages? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 20:51:35 GMT
Each week when I watch him I have the same thoughts go through my head.
"12M we paid for him. You were quite excited at the time. What an absolute tit you are. Are we having a pint tonight? The sky is a funny shade of grey"
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 28, 2019 20:59:52 GMT
We paid £12.5m. He's got what left on his contract? It hasn't been revealed how long he's got left, but let's assume it's 3 years. At maybe somewhere between £20-25k-a-week? How many Champ clubs could take that on? Hardly any. But what level of contract could they take on? And would any of them think he was worth £5-6m and £12-15k-a-week? How low would the fee actually have to be to get a deal through? Could we actually get a bite from someone in this league if we sold him for about £6m, and used a further chunk of that to subsidise his drop in wages to a wage that's more manageable to the average Champ club? On a lot of threads FM you quote £20-25k for our upper tier wage earners. Is that right? Seems rather low for the championship? Or am I still fixated on prem wages? Just total guesswork based on what they would have been on at their previous clubs and what we maybe would have stretched to last summer? There's talk of him being on 35 a week at Bournemouth, but was only contracted until summer 2020. So during the whole Wolves/Stoke farce last summer, he probably would've had to accept some kind of drop after a disappointing couple of years, but getting the longer deal for security. And just can't see us going above about 25 tops, even when pretty much going all-in? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 28, 2019 21:01:51 GMT
Worst... Pfff, short memory of Berahino then. Afobe is close to double figures in one of the least creative teams in the country. Put some creative pacy players around him and a full pre-season next term and watch him bag double figures without much trouble. Let's face it, he's been diabolical in every facet of the game. 45 players have got 8 or more goals in the Championship this season |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 28, 2019 21:07:35 GMT
I wonder who our next failing striker will be? Who can we possibly attract?
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 28, 2019 21:14:04 GMT
We keep spending big money on strikers, expecting them to score the goals that will contribute to our success, and they consistently fail.
The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Apr 28, 2019 21:14:15 GMT
Stick two million on what we paid like wolves did and sit back for a club like us to pay it instantly. To be fair on paper it looked a good deal. Proven record etc, the vast majority on here were buzzing with it, myself included. It's just not worked out. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 28, 2019 21:16:20 GMT
Worst... Pfff, short memory of Berahino then. Afobe is close to double figures in one of the least creative teams in the country. Put some creative pacy players around him and a full pre-season next term and watch him bag double figures without much trouble. Is that going to motivate him to make an occasional run or bother to get back onside at anything other than glacial pace? How about winning the odd header, is that an unreasonable request? Controlling a ball without his second touch being a tackle maybe? |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 28, 2019 21:18:19 GMT
I wonder who our next failing striker will be? Who can we possibly attract? We've already attracted another in January... |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 28, 2019 21:22:13 GMT
Can't believe how awful this bloke's been for us. I too fell for the 'Championship Goal Machine' hype that's built on pretty much one season for Wolves when he netted 22 in 46. At the start of the year I thought, fuck me sideways this bloke looks useless, but convinced myself that he'd be some kind of super-poacher who'd look wank for 89 minutes but then snaffle a chance from somewhere and win us games. I started to believe the stuff about him needing service... I don't believe that now though, because I've seen him miss chances that Martin Fucking Carruthers would have tucked away. Every single week there's one occasion when Benik awakes from his slumber to touch the ball, and each time he manages to fuck it up, whether it's running so slowly he looks like he's wading through a swimming pool of elephant shit or somehow firing wide/at the keeper when it's easier to score than it is to miss. I posted on Twitter that he's the worst striker we've had since the one and only Vincent Pericard, but at £12m as opposed to free, he's a far worse signing than Old Periwinkle ever was. How are we going to get rid of him, and how much of that fee are we going to get back? 'wading through a swimming pool of elephant shit' made me laugh out loud. |
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 28, 2019 21:49:18 GMT
Our transfer team cant find and then sign strikers it seems.. They're a joke and unfortunately they're a very bad one.
Beattie was the last one we got in who made a major contribution to the club in that position.. and he was brought in during our first premiership season ffs.
Demba Ba could've been a real coup but our medical team fucked that one up.
Since then the record has been extremely poor.
Our ability to attract top strikers whilst in the premiership was obviously limited by our status.. but the same reasoning certainly doesn't hold true in the championship, where we are a big club in theory. Yet still we cannot identify goal scorers, you know.. ones that actually score a decent amount of goals for us.
As said above Vokes hasn't exactly torn up any trees yet and tbh it's hard to see that he will next season either.
Fucking ridiculous!!
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Apr 28, 2019 21:55:14 GMT
What is it about this club that seemingly destroys 80% of strikers who sign?
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Apr 28, 2019 22:08:11 GMT
People need to stop taking like we are a team who have a history of 20 goal a season strikers and we are just waiting for the next one.
The most any striker has scored for us in a league season in the past decade is 11 goals.
We have only had 3 seasons from the last decade where one of our players has gone double figures in scoring over the season.
We are not a club where striker's thrive and 8 goals is not a disaster in the scope of our record with forwards. Until we change the way we play as a team and bring the right players in to bring the best out of any forwards we have, then whoever we bring in is going to struggle.
Unless we get lucky and uncover the next Cavani.
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 28, 2019 22:13:28 GMT
Seeing as Jones thinks Afobe is a better option than Vokes
There can only be 2 logical conclusions, as it is now universally accepted that Afobe is shite
Vokes is an unbelievably shite player
Jones is an unbelievably shite judge of players.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Apr 28, 2019 22:30:08 GMT
It's ok,we'll transfer list him as Benny Kafobe,no one will ever know...
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Apr 28, 2019 22:58:03 GMT
Afobe has been wank this season, there's no hiding from that.
But I think we really need to look at the bigger picture now. As a club, we've had absolutely shit success finding a goal scorer since James Beattie.
Why is that? Why can't we find someone who can score regularly? Why do we destroy any striker with a semblance of a reputation?
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Post by fazza90 on Apr 28, 2019 22:58:56 GMT
You could easily change swap the word Adobe with any of : Imbula, Berahino, Wimmer, Ince, N'Diaye, Hauugard and this thread title would still make a good question.
I think it's a similar case with the majority of them with having ridiculous wages and no more hunger to succeed & give everything for the cause & that attitude makes for a sh*t team because the ones who do give everything will undoubtedly be bitter towards the lazy ones.
I'd love to just get the wasters off our books but much easier said than done & think the best solution is just to continuously loan them out to some chumps who haven't done their homework or who have fools in charge of their transfers. Keep them away from our club.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 23:39:34 GMT
I wonder who our next failing striker will be? Who can we possibly attract? It's perhaps the one position where none of our acadamy sides are throwing up a potential star! |
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Post by elystokie on Apr 29, 2019 0:12:34 GMT
People need to stop taking like we are a team who have a history of 20 goal a season strikers and we are just waiting for the next one. The most any striker has scored for us in a league season in the past decade is 11 goals. We have only had 3 seasons from the last decade where one of our players has gone double figures in scoring over the season. We are not a club where striker's thrive and 8 goals is not a disaster in the scope of our record with forwards. Until we change the way we play as a team and bring the right players in to bring the best out of any forwards we have, then whoever we bring in is going to struggle. Unless we get lucky and uncover the next Cavani. Point taken but for a fair part of that decade we were managed by Pulis who, love him or loathe him, it's impossible to ignore the fact that his teams score very few goals. |
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Post by emery1985 on Apr 29, 2019 6:29:57 GMT
I wonder who our next failing striker will be? Who can we possibly attract? I dread to think 🤯 |
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Post by kelw on Apr 29, 2019 6:35:29 GMT
Worst... Pfff, short memory of Berahino then. Afobe is close to double figures in one of the least creative teams in the country. Put some creative pacy players around him and a full pre-season next term and watch him bag double figures without much trouble. Bournemouth had that....oddly didn't work either |
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Post by LGH87 on Apr 29, 2019 6:39:44 GMT
Will people stop mentioning his fucking proven record!!
His best tally of league goals in a season is 13, once.
The only other time he’s scored more than 10 was in league one, once.
He’s not fucking proven at all, his goalscoring record is a myth and it’s fucking shown over this season.
The bloke is crap and we paid 12m for him on a hefty long contract.
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Post by kelw on Apr 29, 2019 6:41:56 GMT
What is it about this club that seemingly destroys 80% of strikers who sign? Not sure which players had great figures that we destroyed. Certainly not Afobe as one good season, Berahinho how long without a goal? Diouf was hardly a goal machine and struggling now...back to the Prem and players like Fuller had a terrible record in the top flight until he joined us, Walters scored a good amount of goals and we rejuvenated Beattie. Still struggling |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Apr 29, 2019 6:50:58 GMT
I wonder who our next failing striker will be? Who can we possibly attract? It's perhaps the one position where none of our acadamy sides are throwing up a potential star! What about campbell? |
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