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Post by pb1863 on May 4, 2019 21:56:54 GMT
Releasing the kit before the end of the season is a distraction hoping we will all forget the dreadful season and to push on and get excited about next season and the hope it brings. Very clever from the Marketing and Commercial team and being in that field I congratulate them. However to get us more excited and to break new ground it would make sense to reduce to price to £30 a shirt for a limited time. I may be wrong but people would be more inclined to buy both home and away shirts thus giving the club the same revenue (I get costs would he higher) This would leave the fans feeling more positive and excited for next season and allow the the pleasure of wearing the shirt on a summer break and for PC and family there would be would be more Bet 365 logos on display around the world. The club has taken a hit on away travel and obviously has a good commercial team and could easily afford this gesture and offer.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 7:03:50 GMT
The away kit is a grower. I didn't like it at all when I first saw it, but a few days later I think it's OK.
Mind you, I won't get it until April when it's 15 quid (for the lad and myself), plus the same to post it here.
We generally the away top every season (we missed 16/17 because it looked too much like Man City), and refresh the home strip every few seasons.
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Post by nott1 on May 5, 2019 9:19:24 GMT
Some kits are better quality than others but they are mostly all made in third world countries sweat shops for about £2, then resold here for £45 or whatever. A scandal that is repeated by the retail clothing trade in the UK on a massive scale. The poor sods making them in terrible conditions are meanwhile living in abject poverty. TOTAL RIP OFF. Unless you’ve got factual evidence you’re talking through your backside. RIP off yes (don’t buy) but I’ll tell you first hand that “most” major suppliers source from factories that would put UK factory standards to shame. You are wrong, sorry, here is just one story re Nike factories who employ workers on poverty wages on 30p per hour whilst the shirts sell for £90. There are plenty of other stories out there. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/englands-90-world-cup-shirt-3376507
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Post by nott1 on May 5, 2019 9:22:50 GMT
Some kits are better quality than others but they are mostly all made in third world countries sweat shops for about £2, then resold here for £45 or whatever. A scandal that is repeated by the retail clothing trade in the UK on a massive scale. The poor sods making them in terrible conditions are meanwhile living in abject poverty. TOTAL RIP OFF. New Balance for instance are made in their Thailand premises, far from a sweat shop but are cheaper to manufacture and makes business sense. I think you'll find most clothes on high streets are made that way as you say , can't see the problem. Easy to call places sweat shops because they are in Asia etc when is completely not true. Can we have evidence of the terrible conditions and the poor sods making them as simply isn't happening with sport manufacturers in this day and age. New Balance for instance have a multi million pounds purpose built premises .....unless you read The Sun etc and believe that kind of nonsense Poverty wages 30p per hour ok? www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/englands-90-world-cup-shirt-3376507IS THIS A LIE?
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 5, 2019 9:53:43 GMT
Unless you’ve got factual evidence you’re talking through your backside. RIP off yes (don’t buy) but I’ll tell you first hand that “most” major suppliers source from factories that would put UK factory standards to shame. You are wrong, sorry, here is just one story re Nike factories who employ workers on poverty wages on 30p per hour whilst the shirts sell for £90. There are plenty of other stories out there. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/englands-90-world-cup-shirt-3376507You really don’t have a clue and don’t use clips from newspapers that I believe are 9 years old. Read my other post. Do some real research and consider your findings. I suggest you purchase some “ethically” sourced tea or coffee, then investigate the wages the workers earn. If you, or anyone else (the consumer) wants to pay £50 and upwards for something that costs about $3 to manufacture that’s your/their personal choice.
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Post by nott1 on May 5, 2019 10:59:18 GMT
You really don’t have a clue and don’t use clips from newspapers that I believe are 9 years old. Read my other post. Do some real research and consider your findings. I suggest you purchase some “ethically” sourced tea or coffee, then investigate the wages the workers earn. If you, or anyone else (the consumer) wants to pay £50 and upwards for something that costs about $3 to manufacture that’s your/their personal choice. This is in 2018, are they liars and it never happens? www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/englands-160-world-cup-football-12634997
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 5, 2019 11:10:10 GMT
You really don’t have a clue and don’t use clips from newspapers that I believe are 9 years old. Read my other post. Do some real research and consider your findings. I suggest you purchase some “ethically” sourced tea or coffee, then investigate the wages the workers earn. If you, or anyone else (the consumer) wants to pay £50 and upwards for something that costs about $3 to manufacture that’s your/their personal choice. This is in 2018, are they liars and it never happens? www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/englands-160-world-cup-football-12634997Last post on this subject as you’re obviously an expert and you’re knowledge is greater than mine. I’ve only managed (with a significant amount of hands activity) a global ethical manufacturing process across a large number of countries and factories supplying household named brands, worked with Trade Unions, NGO’s etc and been a guest speaker at conferences in China, North Africa and London. Read my other post. Do some real research and consider your findings.
I suggest you purchase some “ethically” sourced tea or coffee, then investigate the wages workers earn, it’s all relative.
If you, or anyone else (the consumer) wants to pay £50 and upwards for something that costs about $3 to manufacture that’s your/their personal choice.
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Post by nott1 on May 5, 2019 11:13:32 GMT
Last post on this subject as you’re obviously an expert and you’re knowledge is greater than mine. I’ve only managed (with a significant amount of hands activity) a global ethical manufacturing process across a large number of countries and factories supplying household named brands, worked with Trade Unions, NGO’s etc and been a guest speaker at conferences in China, North Africa and London. Read my other post. Do some real research and consider your findings.
I suggest you purchase some “ethically” sourced tea or coffee, then investigate the wages workers earn, it’s all relative.
If you, or anyone else (the consumer) wants to pay £50 and upwards for something that costs about $3 to manufacture that’s your/their personal choice. Whatever but you didn't answer my question!
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 5, 2019 13:16:18 GMT
Last post on this subject as you’re obviously an expert and you’re knowledge is greater than mine. I’ve only managed (with a significant amount of hands activity) a global ethical manufacturing process across a large number of countries and factories supplying household named brands, worked with Trade Unions, NGO’s etc and been a guest speaker at conferences in China, North Africa and London. Read my other post. Do some real research and consider your findings.
I suggest you purchase some “ethically” sourced tea or coffee, then investigate the wages workers earn, it’s all relative.
If you, or anyone else (the consumer) wants to pay £50 and upwards for something that costs about $3 to manufacture that’s your/their personal choice. Whatever but you didn't answer my question! An extract from the news story you chose for your point”“Bangladesh garment workers get a minimum monthly wage of £47” “Nike, which makes the England strip socks in Bulgaria, says it does business “ethically and sustainably” and suppliers must pay “at least the local minimum wage or prevailing wage”. “Football Association bosses said they had received “assurances that all England products are manufactured in accordance with the law”. If workers are e played and paid in accordance with local labour laws plus OT rates where applicable what is your point?
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Post by teenagefanclub on May 5, 2019 13:32:35 GMT
Unbeaten in new kit and scored 2 goals, best season ever next year.
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Post by nott1 on May 5, 2019 13:42:20 GMT
Whatever but you didn't answer my question! An extract from the news story you chose for your point”“Bangladesh garment workers get a minimum monthly wage of £47” “Nike, which makes the England strip socks in Bulgaria, says it does business “ethically and sustainably” and suppliers must pay “at least the local minimum wage or prevailing wage”. “Football Association bosses said they had received “assurances that all England products are manufactured in accordance with the law”. If workers are e played and paid in accordance with local labour laws plus OT rates where applicable what is your point?Such riches, how do they spend it all eh?
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 5, 2019 14:01:32 GMT
An extract from the news story you chose for your point”“Bangladesh garment workers get a minimum monthly wage of £47” “Nike, which makes the England strip socks in Bulgaria, says it does business “ethically and sustainably” and suppliers must pay “at least the local minimum wage or prevailing wage”. “Football Association bosses said they had received “assurances that all England products are manufactured in accordance with the law”. If workers are e played and paid in accordance with local labour laws plus OT rates where applicable what is your point? Such riches, how do they spend it all eh? In exactly the same way as a person working in the UK on minimum wage and/or a zero hours contract. Apologies if you don’t understand the concept of lawful employment in accordance with a countries national labour laws.
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Post by nott1 on May 5, 2019 14:04:05 GMT
Such riches, how do they spend it all eh? In exactly the same way as a person working in the UK on minimum wage and/or a zero hours contract. Apologies if you don’t understand the concept of lawful employment in accordance with a countries national labour laws. Are you Ashley in disguise?
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 5, 2019 14:14:06 GMT
In exactly the same way as a person working in the UK on minimum wage and/or a zero hours contract. Apologies if you don’t understand the concept of lawful employment in accordance with a countries national labour laws. Are you Ashley in disguise? I’ve been polite in all of my posts whilst trying to explain quite a simple issue to you. In my last post I apologised if you didn’t understand the concept of lawful employment. It’s now quite clear, and I understand your failure to comprehend simple issues, you’ve yet to leave school or you’ve never attended one past nursery level. Over and out......In simple terms go and play outside if the weathers nice
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Post by nott1 on May 5, 2019 14:23:23 GMT
Are you Ashley in disguise? I’ve been polite in all of my posts whilst trying to explain quite a simple issue to you. In my last post I apologised if you didn’t understand the concept of lawful employment. It’s now quite clear, and I understand your failure to comprehend simple issues, you’ve yet to leave school or you’ve never attended one past nursery level. Over and out......In simple terms go and play outside if the weathers nice I'm older than you mate, ex Hanley High when it was a grammar school, so how wrong can you be? Plus I still think poverty wages are wrong even if you think they are acceptable.
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Post by clarkeda on May 5, 2019 18:41:32 GMT
Really like the home kit now. And the away is definitely better in the flesh.
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Post by stokie1947 on May 12, 2019 13:49:08 GMT
wish we would do the same so old fashioned stripes are
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Post by clarkeda on May 12, 2019 14:55:10 GMT
wish we would do the same so old fashioned stripes are Don’t agree about stripes but that new jive kit looks incredible
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 13:07:49 GMT
Anyone who was moaning about our kit needs to have a look at the Southampton efforts 🤮
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 13:09:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 13:10:18 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on May 17, 2019 13:14:20 GMT
Southampton have a rich tradition of completely desecrating the simple red and white stripe design
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Post by chigstoke on May 17, 2019 13:24:26 GMT
Fucking hell fire, that's utter gash.
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Post by rawli on May 17, 2019 13:28:23 GMT
He looks like he loves it.
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Post by kelw on May 17, 2019 13:50:19 GMT
Southampton have a rich tradition of completely desecrating the simple red and white stripe design Have had Chevrons instead of stripes and some strange designs. Don't like black on the red and white stripes or black shorts Have seen far worse than the new Southampton to be fair
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Post by callas12 on May 17, 2019 13:50:56 GMT
Well expensive aswell that Under Armour gear will be!
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Post by kelw on May 17, 2019 14:00:22 GMT
Bilbao nailed the stripes thing - am sure a few remember this
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 17, 2019 15:05:17 GMT
OW! my eyes, my beautiful eyes!
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Post by PotterLog on May 17, 2019 15:18:04 GMT
Eyes closed, hands behind back - presumably an homage to the method used to design the kit itself
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 17, 2019 16:38:34 GMT
I like them especially the away one.
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