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Post by xchpotter on Apr 16, 2019 7:15:36 GMT
International fund? That’s bollocks That's what they're reporting. Salma Hayek's billionaire husband has donated 100 million euros already. Don't think they'll be short of funds. I'd have thought the French government and the Vatican would be raiding their piggy banks to donate as well. Don’t worry, you just know that Britain will donate tens of millions before we give it to our own needy people and overstretched services.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 7:35:59 GMT
That's what they're reporting. Salma Hayek's billionaire husband has donated 100 million euros already. Don't think they'll be short of funds. I'd have thought the French government and the Vatican would be raiding their piggy banks to donate as well. Don’t worry, you just know that Britain will donate tens of millions before we give it to our own needy people and overstretched services. I agree. We should let Jean Claude Drunker and his slimy mates donate some of the EU's slush funds to their little mate Macron.
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 16, 2019 7:57:50 GMT
Don’t worry, you just know that Britain will donate tens of millions before we give it to our own needy people and overstretched services. I agree. We should let Jean Claude Drunker and his slimy mates donate some of the EU's slush funds to their little mate Macron. Using British tax payers money
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Post by nik80 on Apr 16, 2019 7:59:45 GMT
Some good news this morning. The French fire service have said the structure of the building remains in tact, and Macron has promised that the building will be restored. The BBC have said an international fund raising campaign has already started. Goodness knows how long it will take to restore, and what artifacts have been destroyed. I wonder if they'll ever find out what caused it ? The BBC say the fire started just before closing time, makes you wonder if it was started deliberately doesn't it ? International fund? That’s bollocks Too right! The Catholic Church and wealthy western nation coming cap in hand? Lovely monument as it was/is, fucking pay for your own mess. International expertise and craftsmanship is another matter.
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 16, 2019 8:38:05 GMT
Sorry to be anal, but how is France an island? Notre Dame is on an island, Île de la Cité. A bit of trivia, when distances between Paris and another place are calculated, they're calculated based on distance from Notre Dame. Very very sad. Where do you live Duckling(don’t worry, I’m not going to stalk you)
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Post by thevoid on Apr 16, 2019 8:54:07 GMT
I'm trying to think of a building in London which embodies British culture and identity just as Notre Dame is the embodiment of the French psyche. Would the nation go into shock if St Pauls or Westminster Abbey burned to the ground? Or would it have to be something like the Houses of Parliament, the Tower of London or even Buckingham Palace? France has no culture, according to Macron: europeanpost.co/macron-denies-the-existence-of-a-french-culture/
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Post by thevoid on Apr 16, 2019 9:00:31 GMT
Sad day for world culture But I’m now waiting for macron to blame the yellow vests or brexit Maybe it's a welcome distraction from the protests I know, I shouldn't. After 850-odd years the timing does seem convenient. A distraction to promote unity....
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 16, 2019 9:14:39 GMT
Maybe it's a welcome distraction from the protests I know, I shouldn't. After 850-odd years the timing does seem convenient. A distraction to promote unity.... Indeed. I reckon the Gilet Jaunes did it.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 16, 2019 9:27:01 GMT
After 850-odd years the timing does seem convenient. A distraction to promote unity.... Indeed. I reckon the Gilet Jaunes did it. Do you want to stop making pointless, sarcastic remarks and contribute something meaningful to the discussions on this board, or am I overestimating your intellect?
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 16, 2019 9:28:05 GMT
I would be very disappointed if any government money is donated. There are more than enough ways to pay for the rebuilding without us.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 16, 2019 9:35:46 GMT
Indeed. I reckon the Gilet Jaunes did it. Do you want to stop making pointless, sarcastic remarks and contribute something meaningful to the discussions on this board, or am I overestimating your intellect? Your comments so far on this thread: - Has anyone blamed Brexit yet? - France has no culture, according to Macron - After 850-odd years the timing does seem convenient. A distraction to promote unity.... Apologies if my sarcastic comments got in the way of your blinding analysis.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 16, 2019 9:40:53 GMT
Windsor castle cost roughly 60£million to restore
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Post by murphthesurf on Apr 16, 2019 9:52:06 GMT
Don’t worry, you just know that Britain will donate tens of millions before we give it to our own needy people and overstretched services. I agree. We should let Jean Claude Drunker and his slimy mates donate some of the EU's slush funds to their little mate Macron. But then they might have to cut down on their 10-course banquets (with 'the very finest wines'), chauffeur-driven limos and private jets! Oh yes, and their fat expense accounts. So I can't really see them volunteering to 'accept less' as such, much as I'd like to.
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Post by murphthesurf on Apr 16, 2019 9:57:32 GMT
I'm sure we all thought exactly the same thing, Mares - I certainly did. It's also a dead cert that the cheap little crumb-bum Macron will secretly welcome the chance to try to give himself some sort of positivity in the eyes of the country by standing up and giving some 'noble and brave' speeches about restoring the building. As if there's any option! Jeeeeeeeesssshhhhh! Edit: Oh, btw, I'm not saying for one mo that he'll be glad about the fire - far from it - just about the chance to pontificate as much as poss & say things the French people will naturally want to hear after such a national disaster. You would have thought it was an opportunity to repair his reputation , then he launches an appeal for donations to repair this world heritage sight I'm sure that's exactly what diddy little Macron thinks, H - a golden opportunity, too good to miss....... nasty vindictive conniving little sh1te that he is......
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 16, 2019 9:59:10 GMT
Indeed. I reckon the Gilet Jaunes did it. Do you want to stop making pointless, sarcastic remarks and contribute something meaningful to the discussions on this board, or am I overestimating your intellect? Very similar to another , uncanny the resemblance
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Post by thevoid on Apr 16, 2019 10:08:41 GMT
Do you want to stop making pointless, sarcastic remarks and contribute something meaningful to the discussions on this board, or am I overestimating your intellect? Your comments so far on this thread: - Has anyone blamed Brexit yet? - France has no culture, according to Macron - After 850-odd years the timing does seem convenient. A distraction to promote unity.... Apologies if my sarcastic comments got in the way of your blinding analysis. Last time I checked, quoting someone was not sarcasm, I was replying to a point raised by another poster. Are you going to catalogue all of my postings, or are you going to experiment with getting a life?
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 16, 2019 10:09:56 GMT
You would have thought it was an opportunity to repair his reputation , then he launches an appeal for donations to repair this world heritage sight I'm sure that's exactly what diddy little Macron thinks, H - a golden opportunity, too good to miss....... nasty vindictive conniving little sh1te that he is...... Little twat I know murph , why do you launch an appeal when it's clearly the job of government to pay for this , does he expect folks to send in what little disposable income they have while he spends millions of taxpayers cash doing up his grace and favour holiday retreats
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Post by duckling on Apr 16, 2019 10:35:19 GMT
I would be very disappointed if any government money is donated. There are more than enough ways to pay for the rebuilding without us. I don't have an opinion on whether government money should be used, but it seems wholly unnecessary given how rich the Catholic Church is. Where do you live Duckling(don’t worry, I’m not going to stalk you) United States
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 16, 2019 10:50:30 GMT
Your comments so far on this thread: - Has anyone blamed Brexit yet? - France has no culture, according to Macron - After 850-odd years the timing does seem convenient. A distraction to promote unity.... Apologies if my sarcastic comments got in the way of your blinding analysis. Last time I checked, quoting someone was not sarcasm, I was replying to a point raised by another poster. Are you going to catalogue all of my postings, or are you going to experiment with getting a life? I'm not really cataloguing your posts, just pointing out that my posts were actually pretty similar in nature to your own on this thread. What exactly are you offended by the way? I'm genuinely bemused by your response to my post. I was merely posting my own unfounded doubts about the possible start of the fire - just like many other people have done (including yourself).
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Post by Northy on Apr 16, 2019 10:52:06 GMT
Seen a few gifs going about. Quasi singing 'the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire The two Russians from the Salisbury poisoning, upset as they love cathedrals.
Too early?
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Post by AlliG on Apr 16, 2019 10:59:02 GMT
Some good news this morning. The French fire service have said the structure of the building remains in tact, and Macron has promised that the building will be restored. The BBC have said an international fund raising campaign has already started. Goodness knows how long it will take to restore, and what artifacts have been destroyed. I wonder if they'll find out what caused it ? The BBC say the fire started just before closing time, makes you wonder if it was started deliberately doesn't it ?I must say, Dees, the possibility of the fire having been started deliberately never occurred to me --- but what did immediately cross my mind (by 'immediately' I mean as soon as I'd got over the shock of the first TV news and film of the fire) was the fact that the cathedral has stood for 900+ years and then suddenly, as soon as there are workmen up there, working on the restoration project….. there's a fire……. and I wondered if a carelessly-discarded cigarette end was perhaps the start of it. Without doubt there'll be a strict 'no smoking' rule inside all parts of the cathedral, but apparently the fire started at the end of the working day and you can quite imagine somebody ignoring the rule as they were about to knock off. Incidentally, and very sadly, one fireman has apparently been badly injured. Cherchez the bloke with the blow lamp. There is no need to look for a conspiracy. There can be the best and most comprehensive health, safety and fire prevention systems in place during renovation works but the process is always vulnerable to the actions (or inactions) of the least competent sub-contractor of a sub-contractor. I saw the full and detailed reports on many multi-million pound fires on buildings being renovated during my career and almost without exception the cause would be traced back to somebody who wasn't correctly following the site fire safety processes, usually because he had been doing it his way for 20+ years and never had a problem until the day he burned the place down or took a few short cuts while rushing to get something finished at the end of the day. It is an incredibly sad sight to see such an iconic building in flames but you only have to look at Windsor Castle or York Minster to find examples of what can be done to restore both the fabric and the integrity of historic buildings.
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 16, 2019 11:45:40 GMT
I would be very disappointed if any government money is donated. There are more than enough ways to pay for the rebuilding without us. I don't have an opinion on whether government money should be used, but it seems wholly unnecessary given how rich the Catholic Church is. Where do you live Duckling(don’t worry, I’m not going to stalk you) United States Already 500million pledged from 4 donators.
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Post by felonious on Apr 16, 2019 11:47:01 GMT
Your comments so far on this thread: - Has anyone blamed Brexit yet? - France has no culture, according to Macron - After 850-odd years the timing does seem convenient. A distraction to promote unity.... Apologies if my sarcastic comments got in the way of your blinding analysis. Last time I checked, quoting someone was not sarcasm, I was replying to a point raised by another poster. Are you going to catalogue all of my postings, or are you going to experiment with getting a life?That ship sailed a long time ago.
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Post by murphthesurf on Apr 16, 2019 11:48:33 GMT
I must say, Dees, the possibility of the fire having been started deliberately never occurred to me --- but what did immediately cross my mind (by 'immediately' I mean as soon as I'd got over the shock of the first TV news and film of the fire) was the fact that the cathedral has stood for 900+ years and then suddenly, as soon as there are workmen up there, working on the restoration project….. there's a fire……. and I wondered if a carelessly-discarded cigarette end was perhaps the start of it. Without doubt there'll be a strict 'no smoking' rule inside all parts of the cathedral, but apparently the fire started at the end of the working day and you can quite imagine somebody ignoring the rule as they were about to knock off. Incidentally, and very sadly, one fireman has apparently been badly injured. Cherchez the bloke with the blow lamp. There is no need to look for a conspiracy. There can be the best and most comprehensive health, safety and fire prevention systems in place during renovation works but the process is always vulnerable to the actions (or inactions) of the least competent sub-contractor of a sub-contractor. I saw the full and detailed reports on many multi-million pound fires on buildings being renovated during my career and almost without exception the cause would be traced back to somebody who wasn't correctly following the site fire safety processes, usually because he had been doing it his way for 20+ years and never had a problem until the day he burned the place down or took a few short cuts while rushing to get something finished at the end of the day. It is an incredibly sad sight to see such an iconic building in flames but you only have to look at Windsor Castle or York Minster to find examples of what can be done to restore both the fabric and the integrity of historic buildings. Great post. Yes, I've been thinking about the Windsor Castle blaze since the news of Notre Dame broke. Some tremendous craftsmen/women worked miracles restoring it.
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 16, 2019 12:04:18 GMT
I would be very disappointed if any government money is donated. There are more than enough ways to pay for the rebuilding without us. I don't have an opinion on whether government money should be used, but it seems wholly unnecessary given how rich the Catholic Church is. Where do you live Duckling(don’t worry, I’m not going to stalk you) United States Are trumps planes full of water on there way still ? Not his best suggestion 🤦🏻♂️
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Post by potterinleeds on Apr 16, 2019 12:16:16 GMT
Great post. Yes, I've been thinking about the Windsor Castle blaze since the news of Notre Dame broke. Some tremendous craftsmen/women worked miracles restoring it. I went to a lecture years ago by the bloke who had been responsible for restoring the stained glass windows at York Minster after the fire there. Fascinating stuff, and incredibly painstaking work. As far as I can see off the media coverage, the large rose windows at Notre Dame have survived but it has melted the glass to some of the smaller, higher windows. All very sad. I remember standing on the lead roof of one of the bell towers of Notre Dame in 1988 as a 20 year old student in beautiful sunshine. In those days, the parapet around the top was really quite low and the pitch of the roof leads very shallow, so if you had a head for heights you could shin up backwards almost to the roof apex and get the most amazing views of the city.
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Post by felonious on Apr 16, 2019 14:05:16 GMT
Cherchez the bloke with the blow lamp. There is no need to look for a conspiracy. There can be the best and most comprehensive health, safety and fire prevention systems in place during renovation works but the process is always vulnerable to the actions (or inactions) of the least competent sub-contractor of a sub-contractor. I saw the full and detailed reports on many multi-million pound fires on buildings being renovated during my career and almost without exception the cause would be traced back to somebody who wasn't correctly following the site fire safety processes, usually because he had been doing it his way for 20+ years and never had a problem until the day he burned the place down or took a few short cuts while rushing to get something finished at the end of the day. It is an incredibly sad sight to see such an iconic building in flames but you only have to look at Windsor Castle or York Minster to find examples of what can be done to restore both the fabric and the integrity of historic buildings. Great post. Yes, I've been thinking about the Windsor Castle blaze since the news of Notre Dame broke. Some tremendous craftsmen/women worked miracles restoring it. Problem is Murph they won't be able to work in France after Brexit
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 15:26:29 GMT
Great post. Yes, I've been thinking about the Windsor Castle blaze since the news of Notre Dame broke. Some tremendous craftsmen/women worked miracles restoring it. Problem is Murph they won't be able to work in France after Brexit What is this "Brexit" that you mentioned ?
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Post by Goonie on Apr 16, 2019 16:09:50 GMT
Typical French- 850 years old- how long did they expect it to last? 😁
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Post by skemstokie on Apr 16, 2019 16:22:32 GMT
I cannot believe how many posters have used the a fire engulfing a building with so much heritage and loved the world over to bring it into the Brexit arguments you should hang your heads in shame assuming you have any shame.
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