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Post by spitthedog on Apr 10, 2019 22:13:07 GMT
Qualifying groups of 8 teams with 14 qualifying games for each team.
As well as the Champions League clubs getting x amount more revenue, they will need the squads to meet the demands. This will further imbalance the domestic leagues as Champions League clubs will cream off more of the better players to fulfil their increased game quotas and fulfil their squad requirements. They will be running two teams effectively with so many CL games a season.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 10, 2019 22:19:04 GMT
One reason is it staves off the threat of a breakaway European league. BUT a breakaway European league has been discussed for nearly 40 years and the clubs haven't got the bollox to see it through. How would Liverpool feel never playing Everton? How would Juve feel not playing Torino? They know some vital ingredients of their clubs will vanish.
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Post by kelw on Apr 11, 2019 3:05:42 GMT
One reason is it staves off the threat of a breakaway European league. BUT a breakaway European league has been discussed for nearly 40 years and the clubs haven't got the bollox to see it through. How would Liverpool feel never playing Everton? How would Juve feel not playing Torino? They know some vital ingredients of their clubs will vanish. Be honest I think they'd get by |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 11, 2019 3:15:16 GMT
One reason is it staves off the threat of a breakaway European league. BUT a breakaway European league has been discussed for nearly 40 years and the clubs haven't got the bollox to see it through. How would Liverpool feel never playing Everton? How would Juve feel not playing Torino? They know some vital ingredients of their clubs will vanish. Be honest I think they'd get by Financially they would but in the long run what gets lost would be a big source of discord. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 11, 2019 4:33:25 GMT
One reason is it staves off the threat of a breakaway European league. BUT a breakaway European league has been discussed for nearly 40 years and the clubs haven't got the bollox to see it through. How would Liverpool feel never playing Everton? How would Juve feel not playing Torino? They know some vital ingredients of their clubs will vanish. Be honest I think they'd get by I think the reason it's never happened (European League) is because they know thatvin the long run it wouldn't be sustainable. It's principle value is as a threat in order to extract more cash out of tweaks to the existing system. There is a view these days that fans are powerless but don't underestimate. Threats of a backlash in both England and Spain have so far thwarted attempts to prevent competitive domestic games from being played outside the country. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 11, 2019 6:53:44 GMT
Be honest I think they'd get by I think the reason it's never happened (European League) is because they know thatvin the long run it wouldn't be sustainable. It's principle value is as a threat in order to extract more cash out of tweaks to the existing system. There is a view these days that fans are powerless but don't underestimate. Threats of a backlash in both England and Spain have so far thwarted attempts to prevent competitive domestic games from being played outside the country. Also, the same teams in every season would get tedious. At least with the current format there's the (albeit slight) possibility of outsiders getting in. Villareal made the semis in 2006. Lester got in of course. Leipzig have played in it too, they have money backing but aren't a club recognisable like lots of others. |
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 11, 2019 8:47:11 GMT
One reason is it staves off the threat of a breakaway European league. BUT a breakaway European league has been discussed for nearly 40 years and the clubs haven't got the bollox to see it through. How would Liverpool feel never playing Everton? How would Juve feel not playing Torino? They know some vital ingredients of their clubs will vanish. But this knew format gives the clubs both doesn't it? But because of the sheer amount of games they would need a bigger squad of high quality players Although I note Prem clubs are against these proposals |
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 11, 2019 8:57:07 GMT
One reason is it staves off the threat of a breakaway European league. BUT a breakaway European league has been discussed for nearly 40 years and the clubs haven't got the bollox to see it through. How would Liverpool feel never playing Everton? How would Juve feel not playing Torino? They know some vital ingredients of their clubs will vanish. But this knew format gives the clubs both doesn't it? But because of the sheer amount of games they would need a bigger squad of high quality players Although I note Prem clubs are against these proposals They will come round to the idea the minute the champions league pays more money than the premiership |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 12, 2019 0:36:17 GMT
But this knew format gives the clubs both doesn't it? But because of the sheer amount of games they would need a bigger squad of high quality players Although I note Prem clubs are against these proposals They will come round to the idea the minute the champions league pays more money than the premiership Does it? |
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 12, 2019 1:04:45 GMT
They will come round to the idea the minute the champions league pays more money than the premiership Does it? It doesn't, but potentially it could? |
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 12, 2019 1:12:00 GMT
One reason is it staves off the threat of a breakaway European league. BUT a breakaway European league has been discussed for nearly 40 years and the clubs haven't got the bollox to see it through. How would Liverpool feel never playing Everton? How would Juve feel not playing Torino? They know some vital ingredients of their clubs will vanish. This is an interesting point because wouldn't you say that Man Utd v Liverpool is now a bigger game for Liverpool fans than v Everton. I know they are still relatively close to each other geographically but this rivalry is based on competition for titles rather than geographical proximity. Just like real Madrid v Barcelona is bigger than their local derbies. The point is local derbies are perhaps losing their attractiveness and significance compared to big club games. Liverpool and Man City etc can still get their derby fix through CL |
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 12, 2019 4:50:58 GMT
They will come round to the idea the minute the champions league pays more money than the premiership Does it? No that’s why there currently against it when they come up with a idea that does they will suddenly support it |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 12, 2019 6:23:10 GMT
One reason is it staves off the threat of a breakaway European league. BUT a breakaway European league has been discussed for nearly 40 years and the clubs haven't got the bollox to see it through. How would Liverpool feel never playing Everton? How would Juve feel not playing Torino? They know some vital ingredients of their clubs will vanish. This is an interesting point because wouldn't you say that Man Utd v Liverpool is now a bigger game for Liverpool fans than v Everton. I know they are still relatively close to each other geographically but this rivalry is based on competition for titles rather than geographical proximity. Just like real Madrid v Barcelona is bigger than their local derbies. The point is local derbies are perhaps losing their attractiveness and significance compared to big club games. Liverpool and Man City etc can still get their derby fix through CL For Liverpool yes the shit is a bigger game than Everton but that doesn't mean they would be ok losing the local rivalry. It also doesn't take into account Everton who'd miss their biggest game of the season. Same applies to lots of clubs. Juventus have a rivalry with Fiorentina and that would disappear. Borussia Dortmund and Schalke. Etc |
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Post by gregstokie on Apr 12, 2019 6:58:12 GMT
Plus how would a European breakaway league work when/if we do that Brexity thingy?!
Remember when the European Cup used to be for the winners of their respective leagues? Now you can come 4th and still be in it which for me takes the shine off it a little. For me the Champions LEAGUE is the breakaway league with the same teams most likely playing in it.
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