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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 12:59:25 GMT
But according to you gifty, he’s a spent force so what’s the point? I’m still not convinced he’ll make it but Christ he deserves a chance when you see the leeway accorded to the likes of Ince and McClean. I love this gifty thing, I wish I could prove you all wrong, which you are. Don't know how many times I have to say it lol. He is a spent force imo. Value for wages apart from 3 months in 5 years he's on par with saido, imo of course. Probs be out now with his 'injury', it's probs the splinters in his backside giving him a limp 😉 This thread isn't even about Bojan but still you weigh in with the same old untrue imo's that you have posted word for word several hundred times about the player you claim not to care about... |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 8, 2019 13:04:06 GMT
As with all things like this, we've profited and lost out to decisions like this. Sorensen used to do exactly the same thing as Raya did at the weekend so do virtually all other keepers. Because the most efficient way of saving a pen is to pick a side rather than react which requires applying weight to one side or the other.
I'd personally see the rule removed, unless they are literally 3-4 yards forward of the line by the time the kick is taken. Feinting and stuttering in the run up (provided there is no permanent cessation of movement and not actually feinting the kick) is fine, look at Hazard's pens, he waits and waits and uses the keeper picking a side to his advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 13:07:54 GMT
Reading the threads about Bojan whilst carefully dusting my specially commissioned 12 inch ceramic Bojan Krkic icon statuette. I was surprised. Is there actually some doubt about the great one being the most talented player to appear for Stoke City since Alan Hudson? Have you actually read this one. It's about penalties. Or it was until the attention seekers like you and berahinogoals wanted the thread to be about yous. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 8, 2019 13:11:12 GMT
Its hard to tell which side of the fence you're on here. The usual suspects are making excuses for the peno miss, had it been another player they would have been labelled a 'bottle job' amongst plenty of other vulgar descriptions, but not little bojey 😁 there are reasons bojey missed, a book full of them. encroachment only happens when bojey takes a spot kick didn't you know? This is why you can't value their extremely biased opinions. What a great twist it would be if the pantomime villain Jimmy McLean ended the peno nightmare.. If he missed it though I'll guarantee you now encroachment wouldn't be under consideration. 😁 Comparing Bojan with McClean is like comparing Michaelangelo and a toddler with a crayon, that won't change if McClean scores the next 10 penalties  Not on here it won't, not well we've got a splinter group of warped extremists actively practising bojanity 😎 |
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Post by elystokie on Apr 8, 2019 13:14:58 GMT
Comparing Bojan with McClean is like comparing Michaelangelo and a toddler with a crayon, that won't change if McClean scores the next 10 penalties Not on we won't, not well we've got a splinter group of warped extremists actively practising bojanity 😎 Why are you using benji speak all of a sudden? Whilst what you were putting previously was obviously total rubbish at least it was relatively understandable total rubbish. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 8, 2019 13:17:25 GMT
Bojan haters wake up shocker! Its not a bad pen, its a good save Most pens are fairly average, and if the keeper commits and guesses the right way (and him being about 6.5ft helped!) then they will save most If he guesses the wrong way or is sent 'with the eyes' everybody says what a great cool composed pen it was bottom corner. I always laugh on pen shootouts when commentators distinguish a 'cool composed' pen from a 'poor miss' when the only difference in a nice height pen is whether the keeper guessed correctly! The only real unstoppable pens are hard and high into the top corners, or smashed into the sides of the goal near the post, but they are an art form! Risk reward isnt it - power and less accuracy to give the keeper less reaction time, or less power and precision to outfox/skill the keeper - it wasnt like he ballooned it 10ft over the bar or missed the target. Players that can combine power and accuracy are few - Alan Shearer, Matt LeTissier, Stuart Pearce etc. I'm pleased he had the balls to stand up and take it, and I hope he stands up and takes the next one too. Same if Charlie wants to take one. This is all anyone needs to know. Nail on head. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 8, 2019 13:17:38 GMT
Not on we won't, not well we've got a splinter group of warped extremists actively practising bojanity 😎 Why are you using benji speak all of a sudden? Whilst what you were putting previously was obviously total rubbish at least it was relatively understandable total rubbish. You'd find it was predictive text and it has been corrected. |
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Post by elystokie on Apr 8, 2019 13:26:26 GMT
Why are you using benji speak all of a sudden? Whilst what you were putting previously was obviously total rubbish at least it was relatively understandable total rubbish. You'd find it was predictive text and it has been corrected. I hope you didn't waste too much time on it cos you still fucked it up |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 8, 2019 13:28:58 GMT
Reading the threads about Bojan whilst carefully dusting my specially commissioned 12 inch ceramic Bojan Krkic icon statuette. I was surprised. Is there actually some doubt about the great one being the most talented player to appear for Stoke City since Alan Hudson? Have you actually read this one. It's about penalties. Or it was until the attention seekers like you and berahinogoals wanted the thread to be about yous. Funny that, here was me thinking bojan was in the thread title along with his penalty miss. As for him above comparing bojan to MichaelAngelo, they're both 'artist's I'll give him that.. one uses a brush though and one doesn't I think Michel Angelo is a bad example to for what it's worth, I think everybody would agree MichaelAngelo was obviously highly a talented artist. I'd say van Gogh is a better example to use, at some point someone told him he could draw,, some still see it, some dont 😉 |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Apr 8, 2019 13:33:44 GMT
Not unlike corners that get taken from outside the corner markings in most games. Corners can be taken outside of the quadrant as long as some part of the ball overhangs the line. That's correct, but you look how many are outside without any of the ball overhanging the line. I must be getting old its my new pet hate 🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 13:34:32 GMT
Have you actually read this one. It's about penalties. Or it was until the attention seekers like you and berahinogoals wanted the thread to be about yous. Funny that, here was me thinking bojan was in the thread title along with his penalty miss. As for him above comparing bojan to MichaelAngelo, they're both 'artist's I'll give him that.. one uses a brush though and one doesn't I think Michel Angelo is a bad example to for what it's worth, I think everybody would agree MichaelAngelo was obviously highly a talented artist. I'd say van Gogh is a better example to use, at some point someone told him he could draw,, some still see it, some dont 😉 And where are your thoughts on Bojan's penalty miss? Nowhere. Now I know you never bothered to read the thread, but if you read the thread title as you allegedly did, where are your thoughts on the keeper being off the line? That's right, nowhere. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 8, 2019 14:12:21 GMT
Reading the threads about Bojan whilst carefully dusting my specially commissioned 12 inch ceramic Bojan Krkic icon statuette. I was surprised. Is there actually some doubt about the great one being the most talented player to appear for Stoke City since Alan Hudson? Have you actually read this one. It's about penalties. Or it was until the attention seekers like you and berahinogoals wanted the thread to be about yous. This was merely an ironic contribution, and was intended to be "tongue in cheek". PS I was only dusting one Bojan "Staffordshire Figure" as the new one isnt finished yet. |
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Post by nott1 on Apr 8, 2019 14:25:55 GMT
The dithering Afobe should have buried it before he was approached anyway!
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 8, 2019 14:32:06 GMT
Funny that, here was me thinking bojan was in the thread title along with his penalty miss. As for him above comparing bojan to MichaelAngelo, they're both 'artist's I'll give him that.. one uses a brush though and one doesn't I think Michel Angelo is a bad example to for what it's worth, I think everybody would agree MichaelAngelo was obviously highly a talented artist. I'd say van Gogh is a better example to use, at some point someone told him he could draw,, some still see it, some dont 😉 And where are your thoughts on Bojan's penalty miss? Nowhere. Now I know you never bothered to read the thread, but if you read the thread title as you allegedly did, where are your thoughts on the keeper being off the line? That's right, nowhere. Keepers often jump off the line, it's common place, it's a natural instinct to go towards the ball, some keepers milk it. Truth is though it happens in major world tournaments. Nobody complained when pickford was doing it in the world cup. It's still a big enough opening for a professional footballer on tens of thousands a week to hit from 12 paces though, Regardless. |
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Post by Gods on Apr 8, 2019 14:41:37 GMT
The failure to observe the keeper off his line rule is football's own 'broken window syndrome'. A visible sign of law breaking that creates an environment that encourages further law breaking and disorder. You either have the rule and enforce it or you don't. From next season the 'keeper will only have to have one foot touching the line, or if jumping, in line with the goal line. Who knows whether that will make things better or worse ! Incidentally, the stuff in the media about it being like a penalty shoot out and the ball being dead if the penalty is missed, isn't going to happen. IFAB discussed it, but didn't agree it. "Oh...The hokey cokey " :-) |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 8, 2019 14:45:03 GMT
If we want to know how to take penalties watch James beaties, places the ball, picks his corner, turns around, walks back, turns, runs, bang. Doesn't even look at the keeper
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Post by Veritas on Apr 8, 2019 15:14:25 GMT
If we want to know how to take penalties watch James beaties, places the ball, picks his corner, turns around, walks back, turns, runs, bang. Doesn't even look at the keeper Geoff Hurst did exactly the same, always worked until Gordon got in the way! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 15:27:44 GMT
The dithering Afobe should have buried it before he was approached anyway! Another excuse 😆😆 |
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 8, 2019 15:42:57 GMT
As with all things like this, we've profited and lost out to decisions like this. Sorensen used to do exactly the same thing as Raya did at the weekend so do virtually all other keepers. Because the most efficient way of saving a pen is to pick a side rather than react which requires applying weight to one side or the other. I'd personally see the rule removed, unless they are literally 3-4 yards forward of the line by the time the kick is taken. Feinting and stuttering in the run up (provided there is no permanent cessation of movement and not actually feinting the kick) is fine, look at Hazard's pens, he waits and waits and uses the keeper picking a side to his advantage. Perhaps need to explain that to our glued to the line goalkeeper. |
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 8, 2019 15:51:34 GMT
If we want to know how to take penalties watch James beaties, places the ball, picks his corner, turns around, walks back, turns, runs, bang. Doesn't even look at the keeper Only missed one penalty in the premier league.Scored 15 out of 16.Another ex Saint leads the way Matt Le tissier with 25 converted out of 26 taken. |
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Post by Veritas on Apr 8, 2019 16:46:09 GMT
If we want to know how to take penalties watch James beaties, places the ball, picks his corner, turns around, walks back, turns, runs, bang. Doesn't even look at the keeper Only missed one penalty in the premier league.Scored 15 out of 16.Another ex Saint leads the way Matt Le tissier with 25 converted out of 26 taken. Le Tissier is the best I have ever seen, he didn't have a set approach which made it even more difficult for keepers. |
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 8, 2019 18:26:03 GMT
On Bojan's penalty, I'm never in favour of a right footer placing the ball into the left hand corner. For me, the laws of geometry would suggest this is always going to be easier to save. . Gold star to anyone who can spot the flaw in this cunning approach |
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 8, 2019 18:29:08 GMT
Should blind fold the keeper and the penalty taker 😎
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Post by Absolution on Apr 8, 2019 18:36:02 GMT
On Bojan's penalty, I'm never in favour of a right footer placing the ball into the left hand corner. For me, the laws of geometry would suggest this is always going to be easier to save. . Gold star to anyone who can spot the flaw in this cunning approach What have I done now? 😁 |
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Post by Absolution on Apr 8, 2019 18:42:07 GMT
Only missed one penalty in the premier league.Scored 15 out of 16.Another ex Saint leads the way Matt Le tissier with 25 converted out of 26 taken. Le Tissier is the best I have ever seen, he didn't have a set approach which made it even more difficult for keepers. Julian Dicks was my favourite. Twatted it so hard the keeper's best option was to get out of the way. |
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 8, 2019 19:06:54 GMT
The man to pull us out of the penno doldrums is Sam Vokes. He had his cursed Stokie moment but he’s an excellent penalty taker. He should be #1 on the list from now on, no question.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 9, 2019 7:11:53 GMT
Bojan misses penalty: goalkeeper to blame. In other news - woman saves dog from drowning: owner rewards Bojan for dashing good looks.
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Post by march4 on Apr 9, 2019 8:22:57 GMT
The penalty was well saved.
Had it not been for their keeper we would have scored three goals.
His save from a superb Vokes header was exceptional.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Apr 9, 2019 11:12:20 GMT
David Raya is a very good goalkeeper.
He's one I'd like to replace Jack, been saying that for a while.
We just don't score penalties, no matter who takes them.
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Post by lordb on Apr 9, 2019 11:14:11 GMT
The penalty was well saved. Had it not been for their keeper we would have scored three goals. His save from a superb Vokes header was exceptional. fantastic save, that's a goal for Vokes against most keepers |
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