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Post by knowingeye on Mar 27, 2019 11:34:54 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47719457"The amount of the settlement was not disclosed, although some reports suggest it runs into tens of thousands of pounds."'Crewe Alexandra said it did not "consider it appropriate to comment on individual cases that are being dealt with by its insurers".'
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 27, 2019 11:41:57 GMT
The first one, but probably not the last payout
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 27, 2019 11:46:59 GMT
Is this a surprise? They were quite bullish about it all last week.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 27, 2019 11:48:10 GMT
Crikey, Dario will be hyperventilating.
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 27, 2019 14:02:03 GMT
Crikey, Dario will be hyperventilating. Can't believe Dario did more than brush it under the carpet but that's bad enough in itself. (He's only one among many complicit managers and chairmen tho) |
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Post by Goonie on Mar 27, 2019 15:31:20 GMT
Will they be able to stay afloat financially if the trend continues?
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Post by knowingeye on Mar 27, 2019 15:33:47 GMT
Will they be able to stay afloat financially if the trend continues? Insurance? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 16:26:00 GMT
I don't know why they're anonymising the recipient, when it's clear from Daniel Taylor's earlier reports that it's Steve Walters. Good luck to him. I hope he turns the money down and presses on for Crewe to take responsibility for their actions, or more to the point, lack therof.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 27, 2019 17:05:31 GMT
Times are good despite our relegation, two complete stains on the locality are both on the brink of extinction, fantastic.
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Post by Goonie on Mar 27, 2019 17:39:46 GMT
Will they be able to stay afloat financially if the trend continues? Insurance? Can you be insured against your employees conducting sexual abuse against children in your care over a prolonged and unchecked period? Seems like corporate and legal negligence Just asking like as the insurance world is a mystery - any Oatcakers have a clue? |
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Post by Goonie on Mar 27, 2019 17:40:49 GMT
Times are good despite our relegation, two complete stains on the locality are both on the brink of extinction, fantastic. Every cloud, eh? Plus Bojan scores for Catalonia! |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 27, 2019 18:01:13 GMT
Can you be insured against your employees conducting sexual abuse against children in your care over a prolonged and unchecked period? Seems like corporate and legal negligence Just asking like as the insurance world is a mystery - any Oatcakers have a clue? Often falls under the employees liability section, however there’s no definitive cover in place as thankfully it’s a rare occurrence, in this instance the actual policy would be reviewed to determine if it could fall under a more general misconduct element. |
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Post by Northy on Mar 27, 2019 18:18:58 GMT
I don't know why they're anonymising the recipient, when it's clear from Daniel Taylor's earlier reports that it's Steve Walters. Good luck to him. I hope he turns the money down and presses on for Crewe to take responsibility for their actions, or more to the point, lack therof. He's doing a lot of good work with the offside trust, our local village teams ground is now called the offside trust stadium, I saw him there the other week. They've got a game on Sunday v Hollyoaks, ex players like Danny Murphy involved www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-offside-trust-xi-v-hollyoaks-xi-celebrity-charity-football-match-tickets-55274992992 |
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Post by Northy on Mar 27, 2019 18:44:07 GMT
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Post by santy on Mar 27, 2019 20:22:33 GMT
I had the suspicion that perhaps Crewe were preparing to throw Gradi under the bus to preserve the club and shift blame onto him and Bennell for this arrangement with the kids etc rather than the club.
It could have been a possibly strong case to make since Gradi has been on the board himself seemingly since around that time as well. Gradi approved any related expenses, kept it secret etc. Not a guarantee, but its a plausible line of thinking after the expense forms were revealed.
Guessing there must be more to it that is coming to light.
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Ultimately though we're never going to know what happened and how much was known. So we're unlikely to ever see anything scratching the surface of justice for this.
These cases of how it was in the 70's and 80's though has left one niggling thought in my mind. There's two possibilities for our society, it either became some kind of emergent behaviour during this time the true how and why we'll never know why. Or, during previous generations that will now never get to speak, there were some truly messed up things that happened.
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Post by Goonie on Mar 27, 2019 23:10:46 GMT
I had the suspicion that perhaps Crewe were preparing to throw Gradi under the bus to preserve the club and shift blame onto him and Bennell for this arrangement with the kids etc rather than the club. It could have been a possibly strong case to make since Gradi has been on the board himself seemingly since around that time as well. Gradi approved any related expenses, kept it secret etc. Not a guarantee, but its a plausible line of thinking after the expense forms were revealed. Guessing there must be more to it that is coming to light. - - - Ultimately though we're never going to know what happened and how much was known. So we're unlikely to ever see anything scratching the surface of justice for this. These cases of how it was in the 70's and 80's though has left one niggling thought in my mind. There's two possibilities for our society, it either became some kind of emergent behaviour during this time the true how and why we'll never know why. Or, during previous generations that will now never get to speak, there were some truly messed up things that happened. 'There's two possibilities for our society, it either became some kind of emergent behaviour during this time the true how and why we'll never know why. Or, during previous generations that will now never get to speak, there were some truly messed up things that happened.' I don't think it's a new phenomenon - the whole public school system was culturally predicated on bullying and other abuses I'm sure Robert Graves in 'I, Claudius' refers to emperor Tiberius' penchant for young girls being scandalous at the time Nothing new under the sun. The main difference now is we see it as abuse and cruelty and people have spoken openly about it Indeed a 'mentor' in ancient Greece was a family friend to whom you would allow to look after your pre-pubescent son in order to teach him how to be a man. Part of this role was sexually pleasing one's mentor! |
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 28, 2019 0:24:53 GMT
Will they be able to stay afloat financially if the trend continues? Insurance? Not sure you can get a policy that covers you from buggering someone |
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Post by kelw on Mar 28, 2019 1:56:32 GMT
Ironic as they used to have an Algerian called Bougherra. I reckon Dario found him on a crap search engine
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Post by AlliG on Mar 28, 2019 11:46:05 GMT
Can you be insured against your employees conducting sexual abuse against children in your care over a prolonged and unchecked period? Seems like corporate and legal negligence Just asking like as the insurance world is a mystery - any Oatcakers have a clue? Often falls under the employees liability section, however there’s no definitive cover in place as thankfully it’s a rare occurrence, in this instance the actual policy would be reviewed to determine if it could fall under a more general misconduct element. Technically it is not insurance against an employee committing a criminal act, it is for the legal liability of the organisation for their failure to put in place adequate controls and protections to prevent harm coming to people to whom they have a duty of care, which because the victims are young (and therefore seen as more vulnerable) means they have an even greater duty of care to take the appropriate actions to prevent harm. "Abuse" was originally something that was not specified in the policy wordings (if there was legal liability and it wasn't excluded by the policy then it was covered) but about 20 years or so ago, Insurance Companies began excluding "abuse" cover from the "standard" Public Liability policy wording (especially for organisations seen to be to high risk - basically anyone providing continuous care or involved with children or vulnerable adults) and the cover was offered as a specially underwritten buy-back with its own limits of liability, terms conditions etc. |
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