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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 19:49:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 19:49:08 GMT
Most one footed player I've ever seen. Imbula ? Affelay as well.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 16, 2019 19:49:37 GMT
"I played four real attackers: Sam Vokes, who is a target, Incey who I think is in good form at the minute, he’s sharp but he needs a goal, McClean and then Verlinden, who I thought was outstanding for his league debut. NJ must be watching a different game than some of us in the stands. Ince who does not convince - in good form and sharp??? Id be interested in seeing who we can swap him for in the summer. McClean and Afobe can be included in that equation to. Some of the utter tripe NJ is coming out with is seriously starting to piss me off, does he actually believe any of this crap MC Clean a real attacker, Ince in good form FFS
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Post by tuum on Mar 16, 2019 19:49:39 GMT
It’s a weird one, under Rowett he was our saving grace. The only one really that looked alright. Hasn’t happened under NJ i disagree. Not really a fan of Ince. One footed, selfish show pony. However, I acknowledge that under Rowett and Jones he has created some chances....but he could be so much more effective if he wasn`t so selfish and lazy. i would look to sell him if a reasonable offer came along.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 19:51:13 GMT
"I played four real attackers: Sam Vokes, who is a target, Incey who I think is in good form at the minute, he’s sharp but he needs a goal, McClean and then Verlinden, who I thought was outstanding for his league debut. NJ must be watching a different game than some of us in the stands. Ince who does not convince - in good form and sharp??? Id be interested in seeing who we can swap him for in the summer. McClean and Afobe can be included in that equation to. He talks as much shit than any manager we have had for some time now but for some reason he gets off scott free.
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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 19:52:45 GMT
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Post by mrred on Mar 16, 2019 19:52:45 GMT
His attitude is absolutely maddening. Such a stuck up prick with absolutely nothing to back it up. Offered absolutely fuck all again.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 16, 2019 19:53:37 GMT
It’s a weird one, under Rowett he was our saving grace. The only one really that looked alright. Hasn’t happened under NJ i disagree. Not really a fan of Ince. One footed, selfish show pony. However, I acknowledge that under Rowett and Jones he has created some chances....but he could be so much more effective if he wasn`t so selfish and lazy. i would look to sell him if a reasonable offer came along. There is a reason he has never stuck with a club for very long, the reason is he gets found out for what he is very quickly, gutless pussy of a player.
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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 19:53:57 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 16, 2019 19:53:57 GMT
"I played four real attackers: Sam Vokes, who is a target, Incey who I think is in good form at the minute, he’s sharp but he needs a goal, McClean and then Verlinden, who I thought was outstanding for his league debut. NJ must be watching a different game than some of us in the stands. Ince who does not convince - in good form and sharp??? Id be interested in seeing who we can swap him for in the summer. McClean and Afobe can be included in that equation to. Some of the utter tripe NJ is coming out with is seriously starting to piss me off, does he actually believe any of this crap MC Clean a real attacker, Ince in good form FFS It’s a whole lot better than coming out and throwing your players under a bus in public.
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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 19:57:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 19:57:24 GMT
Some of the utter tripe NJ is coming out with is seriously starting to piss me off, does he actually believe any of this crap MC Clean a real attacker, Ince in good form FFS It’s a whole lot better than coming out and throwing your players under a bus in public. It's still utter fucking bullshit though. Just because Rowett failed and ultimately lost the plot in the media, doesn't mean that our new manager should be left to talk utter bollocks as well, does it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 19:59:27 GMT
It’s a whole lot better than coming out and throwing your players under a bus in public. agreed but ffs the thought of watching rowett's dog shit signings next season fills me full of confidence
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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 19:59:57 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 16, 2019 19:59:57 GMT
It’s a whole lot better than coming out and throwing your players under a bus in public. It's still utter fucking bullshit though. Just because Rowett failed and ultimately lost the plot in the media, doesn't mean that our new manager should be left to talk utter bollocks as well, does it? Agreed it’s looks peculiar and I don’t agree with him, still better than hanging your own players and slagging off the fans
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 20:03:02 GMT
It's still utter fucking bullshit though. Just because Rowett failed and ultimately lost the plot in the media, doesn't mean that our new manager should be left to talk utter bollocks as well, does it? Agreed it’s looks peculiar and I don’t agree with him, still better than hanging your own players and slagging off the fans Still smacks of a bloke under pressure as far as I'm concerned. Some of the stuff he's coming out with is typical under pressure managerial bullshit, where he is inexplicably trying to defend some of the decisions he's making and trying to pull the wool over fans' eyes by telling us that we're creating chances for fuck sake. I nearly crashed my twatting car when I heard his interview tonight after the game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 20:04:08 GMT
Best thing Jones can do is to come out and slate all of the players in public, hang them out to dry and really wreck the dressing room.
That'd be great. Really great.
Man alive it's no wonder football fans get a bad name.
For the record, Jones spent a good 5 minutes at the end of the game having a right go at Afobe for not making enough runs in behind the full back.
That's how much he rates some of our attacking options.
The proof of the pudding will be in the summer. Let's see how many of them he keeps hold of.
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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 20:04:16 GMT
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 16, 2019 20:04:16 GMT
Most one footed player I've ever seen. Imbula ? Giving Imbula far too much credit there Carpy
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 16, 2019 20:06:25 GMT
Some of the utter tripe NJ is coming out with is seriously starting to piss me off, does he actually believe any of this crap MC Clean a real attacker, Ince in good form FFS It’s a whole lot better than coming out and throwing your players under a bus in public. It's also not true is it ? why make statements that are clearly not true is he trying to justify playing them ? because I can only imagine that is why he has said this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 20:07:04 GMT
the fairest thing NJ could have said about 'fails to convince' today is,
he started well but I'm disappointed for him he did not get a goal, we shall work together in the week in training to get results,
not slagged the player off but given him something to think about and respond to, then at the season close he can go the transfer team in private and say x y z
the ways it going now convince goes home happy and the supporters are getting fed up
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 16, 2019 20:11:33 GMT
Best thing Jones can do is to come out and slate all of the players in public, hang them out to dry and really wreck the dressing room. That'd be great. Really great. Man alive it's no wonder football fans get a bad name. For the record, Jones spent a good 5 minutes at the end of the game having a right go at Afobe for not making enough runs in behind the full back. That's how much he rates some of our attacking options. The proof of the pudding will be in the summer. Let's see how many of them he keeps hold of. I don't believe any one thinks doing that in public is the best thing to do, however stating how good they are when they are clearly not is not helping the situation ! or does he think we can not see what they are with our own eyes, NJ has a hard job on his hands working with the shit that has been signed by Hughes and Rowett I accept that but don't bull the useless fcukers up in public.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Mar 16, 2019 20:12:55 GMT
Definitely needs dropping for the next game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 20:26:21 GMT
Best thing Jones can do is to come out and slate all of the players in public, hang them out to dry and really wreck the dressing room. That'd be great. Really great. Man alive it's no wonder football fans get a bad name. For the record, Jones spent a good 5 minutes at the end of the game having a right go at Afobe for not making enough runs in behind the full back. That's how much he rates some of our attacking options. The proof of the pudding will be in the summer. Let's see how many of them he keeps hold of. I don't believe any one thinks doing that in public is the best thing to do, however stating how good they are when they are clearly not is not helping the situation ! or does he think we can not see what they are with our own eyes, NJ has a hard job on his hands working with the shit that has been signed by Hughes and Rowett I accept that but don't bull the useless fcukers up in public. As it stands we'll be lucky to find a club stupid enough to pay money for them. Running them down in public is like telling a used car salesman the car youre trading in for your new one is the worst car you've ever driven, then panicking when he's backing out of the deal or offering to take it off you for nothing. What do you want him to do, tell the footballing world what they probably already know and wreck the dressing room in the process, or praise them to the clouds and back, keep their confidence at no lower than it currently is and try as best as possible to not publicly run down the value of the businesses assets any lower than they currently are? Rowett come out with this nonsense because he brought them and shit himself when he realised what he'd done.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 16, 2019 20:32:54 GMT
I don't believe any one thinks doing that in public is the best thing to do, however stating how good they are when they are clearly not is not helping the situation ! or does he think we can not see what they are with our own eyes, NJ has a hard job on his hands working with the shit that has been signed by Hughes and Rowett I accept that but don't bull the useless fcukers up in public. As it stands we'll be lucky to find a club stupid enough to pay money for them. Running them down in public is like telling a used car salesman the car youre trading in for your new one is the worst car you've ever driven, then panicking when he's backing out of the deal or offering to take it off you for nothing. What do you want him to do, tell the footballing world what they probably already know and wreck the dressing room in the process, or praise them to the clouds and back, keep their confidence at no lower than it currently is and try as best as possible to not publicly run down the value of the businesses assets any lower than they currently are? Rowett come out with this nonsense because he brought them and shit himself when he realised what he'd done. I have not advocated running them down in public, however bulling them up in public is making him look like an idiot, as you say the footballing world have seen how shit they actually are they know he is lying so why the pretence, it's not as if all this false praise is raising their games is it mate.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 16, 2019 20:51:46 GMT
It’s a whole lot better than coming out and throwing your players under a bus in public. It's also not true is it ? why make statements that are clearly not true is he trying to justify playing them ? because I can only imagine that is why he has said this. It’s a opinion Crappy, you do know opinions are subjective don’t you?!
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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 21:02:21 GMT
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Post by nonameface on Mar 16, 2019 21:02:21 GMT
He's a good player if you want your wide player to occupy the full back without actually taking him on, instead creating space for a full back or centre midfielder to get into a better position. Our centre midfielders hardly ever break past the line and get into the box so he's limited there. Also Edwards doesn't tend to overlap him, he instead offers for him deeper. He's not the type of wide player I want; McLean is better and Verlinden looked good going forward today. If we can get him gone at the end of the season that would be great. Preferably signing a winger who wants to be direct and take his man on down the line, they don't even have to be very good at it because they'll naturally be a better fit for us. We have another winger who is just about as good as Verlinden and who can switch positions with him. So just sell Ince - if you can find us a buyer - and keep the lads, don't buy us another waster You thinking pemberton? Or someone else?
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 16, 2019 21:05:31 GMT
He was ok now he is Mr disappeared man So one footed
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 16, 2019 21:22:36 GMT
It's also not true is it ? why make statements that are clearly not true is he trying to justify playing them ? because I can only imagine that is why he has said this. It’s a opinion Crappy, you do know opinions are subjective don’t you?! I do indeed ! what are your opinions of the players he is bulling up ? in particular Tom Ince.
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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 21:25:11 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 16, 2019 21:25:11 GMT
It’s a opinion Crappy, you do know opinions are subjective don’t you?! I do indeed ! what are your opinions of the players he is bulling up ? in particular Tom Ince. I was talking about NJ’s press comments, you said they weren’t true.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 16, 2019 21:32:07 GMT
I do indeed ! what are your opinions of the players he is bulling up ? in particular Tom Ince. I was talking about NJ’s press comments, you said they weren’t true. My mistake do you think the majority would agree with him ?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 16, 2019 21:37:53 GMT
"I played four real attackers: Sam Vokes, who is a target, Incey who I think is in good form at the minute, he’s sharp but he needs a goal, McClean and then Verlinden, who I thought was outstanding for his league debut. NJ must be watching a different game than some of us in the stands. Ince who does not convince - in good form and sharp??? Id be interested in seeing who we can swap him for in the summer. McClean and Afobe can be included in that equation to. He talks as much shit than any manager we have had for some time now but for some reason he gets off scott free. Nah. You are underestimating how bad things are behind the wizards curtain. Any manager coming in here has to talk a whole pile of shit to deflect the sheer rottenness of what is going on upstairs. In my opinion NJ is actually working a minor miracle currently and IF he manages to survive we will see how good he can be. It will unfortunately rely on big changes occurring upstairs.
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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 21:40:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 21:40:54 GMT
Tom Ince isn't a shit footballer at this level. In fact he proved it earlier in the season, not as often as he should but he definitely performed better for us while Rowett was our manager.
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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 21:46:58 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 16, 2019 21:46:58 GMT
I was talking about NJ’s press comments, you said they weren’t true. My mistake do you think the majority would agree with him ? No, but the use of the word “majority” just validates that’s it opinion and not a truth.
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Tom Ince
Mar 16, 2019 22:13:53 GMT
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Post by thehoof on Mar 16, 2019 22:13:53 GMT
Tom Ince isn't a shit footballer at this level. In fact he proved it earlier in the season, not as often as he should but he definitely performed better for us while Rowett was our manager. In what way did he prove it under Rowett? In which games did he take any team to the cleaners, score the winning goal ( I can think of Leeds at home). He’s had some decent games, but not one where he’s even come close to justifying his billing as a game changer. He’s performing like this week in week out- 15 minutes pretty good today, 20 minutes against Forest but for the rest of the time you don’t notice him.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 16, 2019 22:21:08 GMT
Tom Ince isn't a shit footballer at this level. In fact he proved it earlier in the season, not as often as he should but he definitely performed better for us while Rowett was our manager. In what way did he prove it under Rowett? In which games did he take any team to the cleaners, score the winning goal ( I can think of Leeds at home). He’s had some decent games, but not one where he’s even come close to justifying his billing as a game changer. He’s performing like this week in week out- 15 minutes pretty good today, 20 minutes against Forest but for the rest of the time you don’t notice him. Scored the winning goal against Derby, kickstarted the comeback against Rotherham, scored the opener against Ipswich, scored the clinched against Bolton. He was pretty much our best outfield player under Rowett.
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